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Suns Offseason - Depth
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Aug 29, 2005, 11:08
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Depth is something that not all teams are blessed with. If you look at how the Utah Jazz fell apart last year, it was because of injuries to positions on the team that did not have depth. A lot of time the lack of depth is the destruction of a team. Players are played too many minutes and sufferer injuries. This only hurts the lack of depth even more on a team.

The 2005/2006 Suns will not be hurt by a lack of depth. The Suns overhauled their roster, adding eight new players. Adding these players had made the Suns a very deep team, something they didn’t have the luxury of last season. Of course not all the guys currently signed have to make the roster and the Suns could cut some of the lesser known players on the team (Burke or Tischer). The roster currently looks like this:

PG: Steve Nash, Leandro Barbosa
SG: Raja Bell, Boris Diaw
SF: Shawn Marion, Jimmy Jackson (JJ2 or Jimmy), James Jones (JJ3), Dijon Thompson
PF: Amare Stoudemire, Pat Burke, Lucas Tischer
C: Kurt Thomas, Brian Grant

Looking at the roster, the biggest needs are another backup PG and more depth at the center position.

Bell and Diaw both have the ability to handle the ball. Jimmy also has the ability to handle the ball. This gives the Suns some options but it would still be a better if the team adds a backup, true PG to the roster. There isn’t much left on the free agent market as far as PGs go though. Gary Payton could be signed to the minimum contract, a sign and trade of Earl Watson could happen for the trade exception the Suns still have, Eddie House is still available but is more of a SG. Obviously, there isn’t much left that could really help the team.

The center position has been revamped this off-season but could use another member. Kurt Thomas is older and Brian Grant had his worst season last year. Thomas should see around 24-28 minutes a night while Grant sees 10-16. Grant is the player that could have the most impact if he is able to stay healthy and return to how he formally used to play. Grant was injured all of last season but continued to play, something that most players in the NBA shy away from. Grant’s biggest influence could be with Amare, showing him moves and tricks that have helped Grant be such a good rebounder.

The Suns should be looking to add at least one more player to the center position. Pat Burke is a decent backup and could be a real surprise, but I mainly see him taking over as the new blogger on the team.

The Suns should find out if Michael Finley is going to join the team this week. It appears that Miami has the edge on the Suns. If Fin does decide to sign with the Suns, it will greatly change this team, adding even more depth and scoring. It was reported that Scott Padgett was going to sign with the team but that appears dead since the Suns traded a second round pick for James Jones from the Pacers. Padgett said he was given a bigger offer from the Clippers and it wouldn’t be surprising if he now signed with them. Besides the PGs listed earlier in the post, the Suns could also be looking at center Calvin Booth who played for both Milwaukee and Dallas last season. Booth is one of the only legit seven footers left on the free agent market and should start to see some attention from teams in the league.

Thompson and Tischer should find themselves in the NBDL if the Suns sign two more players that make the roster. The Suns would be left with one reserve on the IR while Thompson and Tischer both improve there game in the NBDL. It would be smart for the Suns to leave them in the lower league as long as they can. This will let their games grow while not having a lot of pressure on them. The Suns could then bring them up to the team near the end of the season after they have improved their games. This would let them come up to the team when there are injuries and help the team when needed. I do not expect either one to see much time this season but I do expect them to improve in the NBDL and look for them to contribute some next season.

The Suns roster has become much more versatile than last years roster. If the team wants to go small, Amare can move to C, Marion to PF and then put JJ2 or JJ3 at the 3 spot. The roster is so versatile; a defensive unit can even be on the floor, something the Suns haven’t been able to do for a long time.

Next Monday look for a post looking at the team with Michael Finley if he signs with the team. Otherwise, look for a report looking at teams in the Pacific division and what they have been doing in the off-season. Reports coming soon will look at the Suns off-season compared to the rest of the Western Conference; also posts will take an in-depth look at each player by position.

Email me with any questions or thoughts on what is happening with the Suns.
 

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can you really call booth legit? sure he might be 7 foot but legit?
 

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Scott Church comes across as a not very up to date fan.

1. Diaw is almost certainly been picked up because the Suns think he can play the point.

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There isn’t much left on the free agent market as far as PGs go though. Gary Payton could be signed to the minimum contract, a sign and trade of Earl Watson could happen for the trade exception the Suns still have,

The Suns have made it clear to any reporter that asks that they are not interested in Payton.

Does anyone believe Watson can run ANY offense, much less a demanding one link the Suns?

3. Calvin Booth????????????????

NBA.com lists him at 6'11" 235 and he was released for a reason. He's not very good and at 29 unlikely to get better.
 

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George O'Brien said:
Does anyone believe Watson can run ANY offense, much less a demanding one link the Suns?

He can definitely run an offense. Just because he didn't have a good series against the Suns doesn't mean he's not a good point guard. He averaged over 4 assists a game last year, playing less than 22.6 minutes a game, and 5 assists per game in 20.6 minutes the year before last. He's a solid passer, not to mention a very good defender.

I don't think he's exactly a good fit in Phoenix, but he's a very capable backup PG.
 

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PetryJr said:
He can definitely run an offense. Just because he didn't have a good series against the Suns doesn't mean he's not a good point guard. He averaged over 4 assists a game last year, playing less than 22.6 minutes a game, and 5 assists per game in 20.6 minutes the year before last. He's a solid passer, not to mention a very good defender.

I don't think he's exactly a good fit in Phoenix, but he's a very capable backup PG.

Watson's series against the Suns typical of why the Grizzlies have not tried to keep him. The offense stagnates when he's in.

Watson's strength is his ability to pressure the ball. The problem against the Suns was that it didn't slow the Suns down and his offensive defects were greatly highlighted. Watson is neither a playmaker nor a shooter.

From the Suns perspective, they have two defense oriented guards who are comparable: Raja Bell is a much better shooter and Diaw is a better ball handler. What does Watson bring to the table?
 

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Scott Church said:
There isn’t much left on the free agent market as far as PGs go though. Gary Payton could be signed to the minimum contract, a sign and trade of Earl Watson could happen for the trade exception the Suns still have,

I have a better idea. What if another team signed Finley and then traded him to Phoenix for the trade exception?
 

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you would have to wait till dec. 15th to trade him
 

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George O'Brien said:
Watson's series against the Suns typical of why the Grizzlies have not tried to keep him. The offense stagnates when he's in.

Watson's strength is his ability to pressure the ball. The problem against the Suns was that it didn't slow the Suns down and his offensive defects were greatly highlighted. Watson is neither a playmaker nor a shooter.

That's basicaly the same thing as saying Marbury is not a playmaker (and he is). I agree that Watson is not a good shooter, but he IS a playmaker.
 

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I have a better idea. What if another team signed Finley and then traded him to Phoenix for the trade exception?

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Suns Offseason - Depth
By Scott Church
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the Suns could also be looking at center Calvin Booth who played for both Milwaukee and Dallas last season. Booth is one of the only legit seven footers left on the free agent market and should start to see some attention from teams in the league.

As far as I can tell, Booth had one good play his entire career, hitting the winning shot in the playoffs back in 2001 to advance the Mavs to the second round. How he has parleighed that one play into an actual career is one to the great miracles of modern sports. He is a Stiff with a capital "S." Anyone who calls him a legitimate center needs immediate evaluation by a mental health professional.
 

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PetryJr said:
That's basicaly the same thing as saying Marbury is not a playmaker (and he is). I agree that Watson is not a good shooter, but he IS a playmaker.

Maybe this is a matter of perspective. HoopsHype

Great quickness... Superb defender on the ball... Excellent leaping skills... Takes care of the ball... Nice mid-range shot... Not a big threat from beyond the arc... Lacks playmaking skills other point guards have... Works hard.

As a general rule, Hoopshype profiles are overly kind. When they knock a guy for something, it is usually deserved.
 

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George O'Brien said:
Maybe this is a matter of perspective. HoopsHype



As a general rule, Hoopshype profiles are overly kind. When they knock a guy for something, it is usually deserved.

Well, Hoopshype also has the following analysis on Beno Udrih:

A fundamentally sound player... Plays under control... Good knowledge of the game... Good passer... Struggles with physical play... Mediocre defender and three-point shooter.

Udrih shot .408 from three-point range last season (142 attempts). The guys at Hoopshype aren't much more (if at all) knowledgeable basketball-wise than you and me, so it's only an opinion.

I didn't say Watson is an above-average point guard. I said he is a very capable PG to have off the bench, and that he can certainly run an offense as a backup.
 

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