This may be the worst WR group we've had in some time.

[phillycard]

I'm not pushing the panic button by any means. Besides 11 being 11, I do have optimism for CK. Chad looks like he wants to do something this year, and Little at least plays hard. Things could certainly be different once the lights go on, but collectively this bunch is really just that. A bunch. None of them strike any fear in opponents or keep DC's up at night. I don't know what the hell happened to JJ. He looks like a straight bum now. At least the last few years the speed was always there with him, Jaron and Smoke. I find myself actually lamenting that we didn't sign Dez Bryant before we signed Brice. I think it just comes down to the fact that I miss Mike Floyd's steadiness opposite Fitz. I can't even answer who is going to be the #2 on this team and that bothers me.

 

[Proximo]

I don't agree with you.

I think this group is better than last year's. Butler, Chad Williams and Kirk are all competent receivers.

You are mistaking lack of opportunity for lack of production.

Who will be #2 - well I think it will be Kirk in the slot and Chad williams or butler on the opposite side. All 3 will get catches.

I predict Williams, Butler and Kirk will all catch between 400 - 700 yds each.

 

[Shane]

Overkill

 

[kerouac9]

I'd trade anyone after Chad Williams on the depth chart for Jaron Brown right now -- and so would anyone here who's being honest with themselves.

Greg Little was out of the NFL the last two years! He could be our #3 WR.

 

[phillycard]

I don't agree with you.

I think this group is better than last year's. Butler, Chad Williams and Kirk are all competent receivers.

You are mistaking lack of opportunity for lack of production.

Who will be #2 - well I think it will be Kirk in the slot and Chad williams or butler on the opposite side. All 3 will get catches.

I predict Williams, Butler and Kirk will all catch between 400 - 700 yds each.

Proximo, they just don't have any pop to me. Brice was supposed to be a nice piece, especially with a fresh start and out of Dez's shouting range. As a group they appear to be just guys. I'll temper my comments with the understanding that it's the preseason, but I've seen nothing as far as ability where I could agree with you. Your key word being competent. I don't want competent, I want playmaking.

 

[Arz101]

Me after FA, draft and preseason looking at WR depth chart besides Fitz:

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[JeffGollin]

Key to me was the percentage of jump ball battles our receivers lost (like...er..somewhere north of 95%).

Tough to have accurate QB's who thread the needle only to have our guys fail to hang onto the ball.

 

[AZCrazy]

Fitz, Kirk, Williams, JJ, and Butler will be your five. Couple of speedy guys, couple possession guys, and the GOAT.

 

[DVontel]

You & other fellas that share the same sentiment won’t feel that way once Rosen is starting.

Hell, I’m honestly starting to believe CK hasn’t been balling out at TC is because he had NC State’s own Michael Glennon throwing him the ball.

 

[AZCrazy]

Key to me was the percentage of jump ball battles our receivers lost (like...er..somewhere north of 95%).

Tough to have accurate QB's who thread the needle only to have our guys fail to hang onto the ball.

The needle threaders had seats on the bench last night.

 

[kerouac9]

I like this group less than the Top 4 of Boldin, Bryant Johnson, Freddie Jones (TE), and Bryan Gilmore we ran out in 2003. That team won 4 games.

This group is worse than the Boston/Sander/Jenkins group from the early aughts.

This could be the worst group we've seen since 1996, when a fullback lead the team in receptions by a wide, wide margin.

 

[unseenaz]

never should have let jaron brown walk. i have been saying that since he signed with seattle, but i didn't know it would be this bad in AZ..

 

[oaken1]

I like this group less than the Top 4 of Boldin, Bryant Johnson, Freddie Jones (TE), and Bryan Gilmore we ran out in 2003. That team won 4 games.

This group is worse than the Boston/Sander/Jenkins group from the early aughts.

This could be the worst group we've seen since 1996, when a fullback lead the team in receptions by a wide, wide margin.

if we had Larry Centers in his prime on this roster he would still get a big portion of the catches... just like David Johnson is going to.,

would be cool to line them up side by side in the backfield

 

[kerouac9]

if we had Larry Centers in his prime on this roster he would still get a big portion of the catches... just like David Johnson is going to.,

would be cool to line them up side by side in the backfield

Centers had over 100 receptions three times as a Cardinal(!). Those teams finished 27th, 22nd, and 25th in scoring. Those aren't unrelated developments.

David Johnson had 80 receptions for an offense that finished 6th in scoring.

 

[oaken1]

Centers had over 100 receptions three times as a Cardinal(!). Those teams finished 27th, 22nd, and 25th in scoring. Those aren't unrelated developments.

David Johnson had 80 receptions for an offense that finished 6th in scoring.

true. but none of that was Larrys fault,...the man did what he could....he was a one man show in those days, lol.

really loved watching that dude run over defenders

 

[Proximo]

I'd trade anyone after Chad Williams on the depth chart for Jaron Brown right now -- and so would anyone here who's being honest with themselves.

Greg Little was out of the NFL the last two years! He could be our #3 WR.

Not me - Butler has done stuff after the catch Jaron Brown never has, Chad Williams and Kirk are young guys with a chance to be quite good. Jaron Brown will never be better than he is now a boring #4 possession WR.

 

[Proximo]

Proximo, they just don't have any pop to me. Brice was supposed to be a nice piece, especially with a fresh start and out of Dez's shouting range. As a group they appear to be just guys. I'll temper my comments with the understanding that it's the preseason, but I've seen nothing as far as ability where I could agree with you. Your key word being competent. I don't want competent, I want playmaking.

What are you judging him on - the 3 yard passes Glennon was tossing yesterday?

Just look at his highlights from last year. The guy can make plays - Dallas fans were screaming for him to get more passes thrown his way because he was way more dynamic than Dez.

He will be fine.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Not me - Butler has done stuff after the catch Jaron Brown never has.

He has?

 

[phillycard]

What are you judging him on - the 3 yard passes Glennon was tossing yesterday?

Just look at his highlights from last year. The guy can make plays - Dallas fans were screaming for him to get more passes thrown his way because he was way more dynamic than Dez.

He will be fine.

Proximo, I won't lie. I based my judgement largely off of what Cowboys fans have said about him. I have quite a few friends who are, and they say his problem was inconcistency. They acknowlege his talent, but stated he couldn't be counted on regularly. I was excited thinking he'd emerge as a clear cut # 2 and to be honest he hasn't done that in my estimation.

 

[Russ Smith]

Centers had over 100 receptions three times as a Cardinal(!). Those teams finished 27th, 22nd, and 25th in scoring. Those aren't unrelated developments.

David Johnson had 80 receptions for an offense that finished 6th in scoring.

yep Centers played hard and was a great guy but when it's 3rd and 8 and you catch a 7 yard pass and punt, that's not good offense and that's what those offenses were.

 

[dylanbw]

true. but none of that was Larrys fault,...the man did what he could....he was a one man show in those days, lol.

really loved watching that dude run over defenders

And don’t forget there was never anyone better at the chip block on the DE on his way out to the flat. He would just ruin people’s sh#t.

 

[Crimson Warrior]

I like this group less than the Top 4 of Boldin, Bryant Johnson, Freddie Jones (TE), and Bryan Gilmore we ran out in 2003. That team won 4 games.

This group is worse than the Boston/Sander/Jenkins group from the early aughts.

This could be the worst group we've seen since 1996, when a fullback lead the team in receptions by a wide, wide margin.

Lol.. Martay Jenkins...

But I would take that 2nd group over our current clutch at WR as well. DB and Frank Sanders were both excellent for several seasons. Often times the lone bright spots during otherwise dismal games. I guess you could say Jenkins had his moments too.

The truth is that the strength of the 2018 WR group depends upon two unknowns, specifically, Kirk and William's NFL ability. Nobody really knows right now how they'll do this year.

 

[Solar7]

Overreaction theater here. These guys aren’t great, no, but Fitz will get his and keep the receiving corps afloat. Clearly this will be a priority for next year, but we took a nice step one by drafting Kirk.

What shocks me is that we had plenty of people willing to trade the next three years of draft picks for a QBotF and were just assuming one of those guys could throw these people open. Thank goodness for Rosen.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

I like this group less than the Top 4 of Boldin, Bryant Johnson, Freddie Jones (TE), and Bryan Gilmore we ran out in 2003. That team won 4 games.

2003? Larry Foster was on that team as well. Started the first game, never to be seen again.

Jeff Blake comin' at ya!

 

[Stout]

I'm right there with you, Philly. I said it before the draft and have been saying it ever since. Kirk was a good pick, IMO, but we still have gaping holes at the position.

I don't agree with you.

I think this group is better than last year's. Butler, Chad Williams and Kirk are all competent receivers.

You are mistaking lack of opportunity for lack of production.

Who will be #2 - well I think it will be Kirk in the slot and Chad williams or butler on the opposite side. All 3 will get catches.

I predict Williams, Butler and Kirk will all catch between 400 - 700 yds each.

You've based your opinion on hope and prayer. Butler? Eh, he's at least been bang average at best in his career, and it never hurts to have an average or a bit below average guy on the roster as a vet. Williams? He's done nothing and shown nothing--there's NO basis for calling him a competent receiver. And, right now, we're all hoping Kirk becomes that, but he's an untested rookie. I like your optimism, but right now it's based on hope and a smidge of homerism. The WR position isn't one that inspires confidence on this team, ATM.