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I know we all had fun talking crap to the Rams fans this week and the players had fun talking about how good they were. On the Cardinals website on Friday, I read an article talking about the players didn't consider themselves cocky, they know they are good.

That's all well and true. We are a good team, we have a chance to go far but as Bruce said after week 2. We ain't (expletive deleted). We got cocky, maybe that caused us to think we were invincible and we got our asses handed to us on a platter because of it. The Rams are a team with a good defense and Gurly is scary going forward but they are not as good as us. This will be proven by the end of the season. But the Rams are good enough to beat us, especially if we come out making mistakes.

Hopefully, this is the loss we needed to galvanize us and make us better. Last year when we lost early in the season to the Broncos, we lost to a team that was better than us. Especially when Stanton was starting. This year, our first loss was a game we should not have lost except we came out with a gun aimed squarely at our feet. Learning experience.

Don't let it get ya down. On to Detroit.
 

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I know we all had fun talking crap to the Rams fans this week and the players had fun talking about how good they were. On the Cardinals website on Friday, I read an article talking about the players didn't consider themselves cocky, they know they are good.

That's all well and true. We are a good team, we have a chance to go far but as Bruce said after week 2. We ain't (expletive deleted). We got cocky, maybe that caused us to think we were invincible and we got our asses handed to us on a platter because of it. The Rams are a team with a good defense and Gurly is scary going forward but they are not as good as us. This will be proven by the end of the season. But the Rams are good enough to beat us, especially if we come out making mistakes.

Hopefully, this is the loss we needed to galvanize us and make us better. Last year when we lost early in the season to the Broncos, we lost to a team that was better than us. Especially when Stanton was starting. This year, our first loss was a game we should not have lost except we came out with a gun aimed squarely at our feet. Learning experience.

Don't let it get ya down. On to Detroit.

I think the Rams just out hustled and out physical-ed us. They are a good team. This was a good wake up call at this point in the season. And a home game being even more a reality check.

Both teams were pretty healthy coming in. I think your right - it is what the Dr. ordered at this point in the young season. The game at their place should be another very interesting game, tstl.

Hopefully this makes us an even stronger team from here on out. Those were my thoughts as Palmers last pass sailed over everyones head. He is human after all. And he was feeling the heat. He couldn't let things develop like he wanted.
 

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A division loss at home early in the season isn't ever good especially when you're trying to dethrone the 2 time NFC champs who have pretty much owned you.
 

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A division loss at home early in the season isn't ever good especially when you're trying to dethrone the 2 time NFC champs who have pretty much owned you.

Agreed. Super Bowl teams don't need "wake-up" calls at home to mediocre teams. If this team was too big for its britches in game 4 of the season after not having even won a division or a playoff game the last two years, you can question if they have the focus to be a champion, period.
 

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Agreed. Super Bowl teams don't need "wake-up" calls at home to mediocre teams. If this team was too big for its britches in game 4 of the season after not having even won a division or a playoff game the last two years, you can question if they have the focus to be a champion, period.

Seattle was dragging ass last season at 3-3; yet, went to the Super Bowl. New England and Tom Brady were proclaimed as "done" early last year (remember "On to Cincinnati"?) and then won the Super Bowl.

Not sure if this was a wakeup call of any type, but great teams are not invincible against losing trap games. Yeah, the implications of the loss are not good, but this is something that Arians and co can overcome.
 

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A division loss at home early in the season isn't ever good especially when you're trying to dethrone the 2 time NFC champs who have pretty much owned you.

Without Palmer they "owned us". It is never good to lose at home, but they have to grow with it as a team and come together and play smarter, harder and disciplined football. What bothers me is that we were out physical-ed in a home game. I haven't seen that in awhile.
 
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Seattle was dragging ass last season at 3-3; yet, went to the Super Bowl. New England and Tom Brady were proclaimed as "done" early last year (remember "On to Cincinnati"?) and then won the Super Bowl.

Not sure if this was a wakeup call of any type, but great teams are not invincible against losing trap games. Yeah, the implications of the loss are not good, but this is something that Arians and co can overcome.

Exactly. Good teams, complacent teams, are capable of losing. Those two teams are good examples. If we win in Detroit next week big, Arians can simply point back to week 4 and say "don't let it go to your head or Pittsburgh will beat you next week"
 

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I don't believe the team got cocky as much as they just had a bad day. It was just one of those games where they couldn't quite put everything together and they also didn't get any of the lucky breaks. I also don't believe the team got thoroughly outplayed by the Rams. You could argue that the Cards all in all won the line of scrimmage yesterday, but just didn't execute in the red-zone.
 

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Uh, no.

No losses are good for a team, ever. ESPECIALLY a division loss.
 

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Seattle was dragging ass last season at 3-3; yet, went to the Super Bowl. New England and Tom Brady were proclaimed as "done" early last year (remember "On to Cincinnati"?) and then won the Super Bowl.

Not sure if this was a wakeup call of any type, but great teams are not invincible against losing trap games. Yeah, the implications of the loss are not good, but this is something that Arians and co can overcome.
Yup. And if the Cards win in STL, it's a wash. I'm still not getting all the comments of how bad the Cards played. They put up 440+ yards and quite frankly shut the Rams down in the first half offensively. The Rams made the adjustments at the half and the players on D were trying to make plays at the end, that's why Gurley had a couple of big runs on their last drive to seal the game.

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Agreed. Super Bowl teams don't need "wake-up" calls at home to mediocre teams. If this team was too big for its britches in game 4 of the season after not having even won a division or a playoff game the last two years, you can question if they have the focus to be a champion, period.

Idk about that.

Remember the Pats last year against the Chiefs & Seattle's game against us(Though I wouldn't say we were mediocre).

I think every Super Bowl team goes through "wake-up call" games. It rarely doesn't happen.

But yea, losing to divisional rival at home & never good, but I am still confident we can beat them in their house.
 

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I don't believe the team got cocky as much as they just had a bad day. It was just one of those games where they couldn't quite put everything together and they also didn't get any of the lucky breaks. I also don't believe the team got thoroughly outplayed by the Rams. You could argue that the Cards all in all won the line of scrimmage yesterday, but just didn't execute in the red-zone.



This is pretty much my feelings on it too. Bad day all around. Even though there's a multitude a things to point out, what puzzled me a lot was Cantanzaro's kickoffs being short all day. He was nails on field goals so who knows what was up with the kickoffs.


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Seattle was dragging ass last season at 3-3; yet, went to the Super Bowl. New England and Tom Brady were proclaimed as "done" early last year (remember "On to Cincinnati"?) and then won the Super Bowl.

Not sure if this was a wakeup call of any type, but great teams are not invincible against losing trap games. Yeah, the implications of the loss are not good, but this is something that Arians and co can overcome.

Those two teams were previous Champions or at least contenders every year and have proven the ability to turn it on when needed. This team
Hasn't accomplished ANY of that. You can't compare a team that hasn't won its division or even a playoff game to teams who needed wake-up calls after already having climbed the mountain, IMO.

And, those teams didn't lose terrible
Home games like we just did.
 
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Those two teams were previous Champions or at least contenders every year and have proven the ability to turn it on when needed. This team
Hasn't accomplished ANY of that. You can't compare a team that hasn't won its division or even a playoff game to teams who needed wake-up calls after already having climbed the mountain, IMO.

And, those teams didn't lose terrible
Home games like we just did.

Dallas lost home games against SF and WAS last season; yet, went 12-4, won its division, and was a questionable call away from the NFC championship game.

**** happens, and yesterday certainly didnt define this team
 

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Dallas lost home games against SF and WAS last season; yet, went 12-4, won its division, and was a questionable call away from the NFC championship game.

**** happens, and yesterday certainly didnt define this team

That's true. But winning either one of those games would have meant a bye week AND a home game against Carolina. Instead, they had to play Detroit and go on the road to GB.

One single loss had a massive influence on the outcome of their season.
 

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...And the Rams lost at Washington earlier...

Think that isn't in the back of Rams' fans heads. Yeah, we LOST. Don't like it one bit but it is what it is. Still, I'd much rather be 3-1 then 1-3 and looking up. My friends, we are looking DOWN! It's called...1st PLACE! :D

WE'LL BE OKAY!

Mark :)
 

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Winning your first three games does not offer much indication in a 16 game season, nor does losing one game four into the season... we simply do not know yet :)
 

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I don't really believe in good losses frankly. If this team wasn't focused or took anyone lightly it's not going to be fixed by losing a home game to the Rams. Didn't we do that BA's first year here? If I recall, that loss cost us later in the year.

I'm a believer that bad wins teach you more than good losses.

When you overcome a down game, like we should have done, you can use that later in the year when times are tough or you're losing a game, you can point to that mentally and have the confidence to know you can overcome adversity. Losing a game you feel like you should win, blaming the refs, saying yeah but we had 3 turnovers, trying to take away "fluke" plays, all that does is create mental excuses and it doesn't strengthen you later in the year. This teams failure to properly execute a game winning 4th quarter drive doesn't help anyone, all it does is create doubt the next time the situation arises.
 

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Only one team has went wire to wire undefeated , winning the championship 72 fins . the Pats achieved 18 and 0 but lost the championship . The math says that 48 of the 49 SB winners have lost at least 1 game during the season . Some wildcard teams Raiders ---- Ravens ----- Steelers have won the SB after not winning their division .
This was one loss , we have 3/4 of a season left to define who we are . Looking forward to the Lions , moving on to Detroit .
 

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Dallas lost home games against SF and WAS last season; yet, went 12-4, won its division, and was a questionable call away from the NFC championship game.

**** happens, and yesterday certainly didnt define this team


:thumbup: It's the NFL and it was a hard hitting game. Ya gotta be READY, give it your all and move on to the next game opportunity!
 

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Dallas lost home games against SF and WAS last season; yet, went 12-4, won its division, and was a questionable call away from the NFC championship game.

**** happens, and yesterday certainly didnt define this team

not sure pointing to a team that is a perpetual underachiever and choke artist is a way to show good teams lose games at home that they should win. They win either of those games and they're hosting the entire playoffs. And as far as "they were one questionable call from the NFC Title game... well, they were also one questionable call away from losing in the first round. so, I don't know what a team almost getting to the NFC title game says.

And again, Dallas wasn't playing in the toughest division in football and they didn't go on to win jack squat.
 
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Yes one game can cost you the playoffs. We saw that two years ago.

But thats only if you let it. And no Cheese are are not a Super Bowl team. We havent proven it. But we are a contender. And as I have stated the next 4 games will show that. There maybe more ups then downs but for ANY team to beat us its going to take an A) effort and B) we are gonna have to shoot ourselves in the foot numerous times. Thats a receipe for 12-4 or better.

Onward and Upward. Was a bad day at the office, Rams played out of their mind, and we still coulda shoulda won. As someone else this doesnt change my view at all. Good luck replicating that game again.
 
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