This year's draft may be the one I have the least interest in

[DevonCardsFan]

Russell Wilson lines up under center. Does 1/2 an inch make that much of a difference.

Exactly 1/2 inch isn't changing anything. Everyone's being a cry baby, this is the funnest draft I've ever had with the Cards. If your a Murray crybaby and pouting it wouldn't be fun, but there is a chance Kingsbury could be building a offense around Murray just that is exciting, or that the Cards could add 1 of 2 killer D lineman is super exciting after adding so much to the D already, or they could trade down and get a bunch of picks in a draft filled with great D prospects, is even more exciting.

The Cards have the #1 pick, the 1st pick in the 2nd, how can you not be excited, that's crazy talk. This is a super fun off-season! Cards are constantly being talked about lighten up, this is Great!

 

[blindseyed]

Wait... didn't theSMEL say we needed to redraft the Leenart this year? I'm totally in!!

 

[Dr. Jones]

Eyeball test. He easily outran CBs on his long runs.

Murray isnt running the 40 because he doesn't want people to think of him as Vick.

He threw for more yardage in one season than Vick did in two. Even mentioning the two in the same sentence makes no sense. Before I did any research on Murray, I believed he was a "running QB". I learned I was WRONG, he is a QB who can run.

Murray has tape on some things and little tape on others.

His off-season spoke volumes to me.

"Want to know if I am fast? Watch the tape".
"Want to know if I can throw on the run? Watch the tape".
"Want to know if I am shifty and can elude a pass-rush? Watch the tape".
"Want to know if I can be a pocket passer? Then here is my pro day".
"Want to know how tall I am? Then here is my combine height".
"Want to know how heavy I am? Then here is my combine weight".

He only answered the questions he needed to answer. And I think that was very smart of him.

 

[Shane]

The Cardinals don't have a poor defense. Even last year, they were a middle of the pack defense even though they were running a scheme not suited to the personnel.

I expect the Cardinals to be around the top 10 defenses in the league this year with the additions they've already made.

What the Cardinals have is an awful offense. Adding a potential generational talent at QB who could change their fortunes quickly.

A potential generational QB is already on the roster.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Murray has tape on some things and little tape on others.

His off-season spoke volumes to me.

"Want to know if I am fast? Watch the tape".
"Want to know if I can throw on the run? Watch the tape".
"Want to know if I am shifty and can elude a pass-rush? Watch the tape".
"Want to know if I can be a pocket passer? Then here is my pro day".
"Want to know how tall I am? Then here is my combine height".
"Want to know how heavy I am? Then here is my combine weight".

He only answered the questions he needed to answer. And I think that was very smart of him.

Yep.

Another question that wasn't answered, was competition. There is a legit concern about the defenses he faced. He only really faced one good defense all year, and he wasn't nearly as good....though he still led his team to over 30 points....

 

[Shane]

He could be. You can ignore his history of excellence and his elite measureables (4.3 speed) and his arm, but the fact remains he can be that good.

What 4.3 speed? Proof of this?

 

[ARZCardinals]

I have zero interest in Murray...Baker Mayfield he is not.

Yep he's not Baker....he just broke every record Baker had in one season.

The joy some will have re pulling these threads and the crow served will be priceless in the future.

 

[Krangodnzr]

A potential generational QB is already on the roster.

Shane.....I do like Josh Rosen....but that is an absolutely ridiculous take. Outside of his Sr. year at St. John Bosco, it's a ridiculous idea that Rosen is a generational talent.

The reason I state Murray can be one is because he has a very unique blend of skills that few players have. Josh Rosen is Eli Manning V2.0 at best. Eli Manning is not a generational talent, since he was at best 4th or 5th best QB of his generation. I'd argue he wasn't even the best QB in his class.

 

[Krangodnzr]

What 4.3 speed? Proof of this?

How fast does he look to you? 4.8? Is he Rosen fast?

Does he run past cornerbacks with ease? Yes he does. It doesn't really matter if he is a 4.3 (I think he is) because he obviously is very fast.

 

[BW52]

Shane.....I do like Josh Rosen....but that is an absolutely ridiculous take. Outside of his Sr. year at St. John Bosco, it's a ridiculous idea that Rosen is a generational talent.

The reason I state Murray can be one is because he has a very unique blend of skills that few players have. Josh Rosen is Eli Manning V2.0 at best. Eli Manning is not a generational talent, since he was at best 4th or 5th best QB of his generation. I'd argue he wasn't even the best QB in his class.

According to some experts Murray isn't even the best QB in this draft class.

 

[Shane]

According to some experts Murray isn't even the best QB in this draft class.

According to Daniel Jeremiah he is only the 12 best rated prospect in the entire draft. Hell hes got White the LBer from LSU rated higher as a prospect. Lol

As a QB??

 

[Krangodnzr]

According to some experts Murray isn't even the best QB in this draft class.

According to who?

And who is better, Dwayne Haskins? Mr. throws the ball 3-5 yards on most plays? The guy who throws wound ducks all over the field? Horrible accuracy that is buoyed by an offense predicated on short throws.

 

[BW52]

Yep he's not Baker....he just broke every record Baker had in one season.

The joy some will have re pulling these threads and the crow served will be priceless in the future .

Hope you like crow.

 

[ARZCardinals]

Even if he's the 12th best prospect...it's a QB...they will always rank higher. Also it's nothing but prospecting...no one knows...even all of us.

 

[Krangodnzr]

According to Daniel Jeremiah he is only the 12 best rated prospect in the entire draft. Hell hes got White the LBer from LSU rated higher as a prospect. Lol

As a QB??

That's a ridiculous rating system because QBs inherently have more value. If a QB is good enough to be rated in the 1st round, it should pretty much be top five rated because of positional value.

That's dinosaur thinking that would put Murray behind White (who I actually really like).

 

[slanidrac16]

Shane.....I do like Josh Rosen....but that is an absolutely ridiculous take. Outside of his Sr. year at St. John Bosco, it's a ridiculous idea that Rosen is a generational talent.

The reason I state Murray can be one is because he has a very unique blend of skills that few players have. Josh Rosen is Eli Manning V2.0 at best. Eli Manning is not a generational talent, since he was at best 4th or 5th best QB of his generation. I'd argue he wasn't even the best QB in his class.

Eli= 2 Super Bowls. I’d take that.

 

[ARZCardinals]

LOL!!!

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Yep he's not Baker....he just broke every record Baker had in one season.

The joy some will have re pulling these threads and the crow served will be priceless in the future.

And it applies to this post. #NeverForget

 

[slanidrac16]

The patriots are interested in Rosen...but what the hell do they know.

 

[BW52]

According to who?

And who is better, Dwayne Haskins? Mr. throws the ball 3-5 yards on most plays? The guy who throws wound ducks all over the field? Horrible accuracy that is buoyed by an offense predicated on short throws.

Huddle report,Ourlads
Draft network has Murray 27th prospect,Walter Football 28th prospect,CBS 13th best prospect,NFL.CPM 12 the prospect,draftek 7th best prospect.Just several for you.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

@ARZCardinals Holler at me when Murray goes back to baseball by the end of the 2021 season...

 

[ARZCardinals]

will do

I'll take a cold one free when he plays like he's done his entire life.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Eli= 2 Super Bowls. I’d take that.

I would too...LOL.

I like Rosen....I just think Murray is going to be appreciably better. I think on average he'll be good for two more wins per year over Rosen. That's worth trading Rosen for.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Huddle report,Ourlads
Draft network has Murray 27th prospect,Walter Football 28th prospect,CBS 13th best prospect,NFL.CPM 12 the prospect,draftek 7th best prospect.Just several for you.

Kewl. Murray is the best player in the draft on Krangthebrain's Professional Scouting Network.

 

[Shane]

The patriots are interested in Rosen...but what the hell do they know.

Proof?