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Mitch
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I said I didn't think he would land another HC job...not that he would ever coach again. Please be fair.
Thoughts on Horton and Updated HC Predictions
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I said I didn't think he would land another HC job...not that he would ever coach again. Please be fair.
gmabel830
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Why?
I love the idea of Whipple as OC. That's a nice one to think about.
Regarding Horton not calling the plays - the way I look at it I do think he will get a HC job next year if he doesn't get one this year. Having a McCoy (whom I really like) at HC means Ray is a short term DC for us. I believe in Ray a lot, and want him to be here for a long time. I think you have to move him into the HC role to accomplish that.
I also have trust in him selecting a guy that can run his defense, and I believe the players will buy into that guy as much as they buy into Ray because Ray is still there and Ray made the call. I'm more worried about Ray leaving than who he chooses for his DC.
Who he chooses for OC is of paramount importance though, and will make or break his success as a HC here. Again, I really like the idea of Whipple.
Regarding Horton not calling the plays - the way I look at it I do think he will get a HC job next year if he doesn't get one this year. Having a McCoy (whom I really like) at HC means Ray is a short term DC for us. I believe in Ray a lot, and want him to be here for a long time. I think you have to move him into the HC role to accomplish that.
I also have trust in him selecting a guy that can run his defense, and I believe the players will buy into that guy as much as they buy into Ray because Ray is still there and Ray made the call. I'm more worried about Ray leaving than who he chooses for his DC.
Who he chooses for OC is of paramount importance though, and will make or break his success as a HC here. Again, I really like the idea of Whipple.
Jetstream Green
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Mitch, love reading your perspective but this "Bidwill will get outbid by the Bears for McCoy." does not hold true and is becoming a cliche about the organization. Whis was one of the top ten paid coaches in sports. The organization swallowed 5 million to let him go. Michael Jr has been obviously very upset with the losing. In my opinion it is the Bears who would not stand a chance if Mikey would opt of McCoy
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WildBB
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I think we're taking a chance if we don't elevate Horton.
But we do need a wonder worker for the QB position, and someone who will develop the run game.
Another OT, OG/C and RB will go a long way towards that.
I think Ray would emphasize the run a Great Deal More.
For this team now, it may be the way to go.
They will also need to address the ILB spot as well.
Would you take Te'o over an OLman 1st??
As I think they will draft QB in the 2nd, RB in 3rd or 4th RD. depending who is there.
If Ball (Wisconsin) or Taylor (STanford) are there at their 3rd RD. pick, I think they'd have to jump all over that. Or possibly Lattimore (S. Carolina)
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Depends on which needs we fill in free agency.
Rather than worry about whether a defensive mind like Horton will be too run oriented, I'd rather we focus on protecting the strong part of our franchise (the defense) and then invest new people and resources toward bringing our offense up to the level of our defense. (The opposite strategy would be to hire all offensive-minded people first and let the defense fend for itself. Don't like it - it could leave us with a weakened defense while we still had to struggle with building the offense).
PACardsFan
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McCoy & Arians would be solid choices! We need to go with a HC with OC background!
Jetstream Green
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I have a feeling it is going to be McCoy, and he stands the advantage for interviewing after Horton since his responses will be fresh on Michael's mind when he decides. I think Horton is an amazing DC, and possibly might be a good head coach but McCoy with his offensive background carries the antidote to the table for our affliction- bad QB play, poor OL, and a overall lethargic offense. If it is Horton, I will still be optimistic as well but our serious flaw is offense. It is an unfortunate Catch 22, and seems to be the history of the Cardinals. The history which cements our mediocrity. We never seem to gel on both sides of the ball. Great defense last season, but poor offense. Hire Horton, and the defense will probably remain great but the chances of the offense still failing are possible. Sign McCoy and our offense might become good but does a loss of Horton mean our defense will falter back to pre-Horton performance. The Cardinals are always good at something and poor at another and that is the blueprint for being mediocre.
Sad, but true.GuernseyCard
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An improved '0' comes through the hiring a competent coordinator and position coaches on that side of the ball. IMO. Hiring Horton as the man in overall charge does not preclude this outcome.
Coach B in New England is not an offensive genius, but, he has hired a few.
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WildBB
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But with good coaching a new QB and some OL draft pick(s) were not far away from being a decent O. At least one that will put up 20+ a game.
But I can definitely see the case for hiring Horton. Wouldn't be against it at all. That's what I said at the beginning. He brings passion. I just hope he/we can get somebody who is balanced pass / run for OC and will build both.
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