Thoughts on Lon Babby

[Irish]

I am confident Hedo will do well hin Phoenix. The biggest problem he faced was that Bosh was intent on getting the stats to get him a big payday. The Raptors wrer so intent on placating Bosh, they didn't take advantage of Hedo's skills. We can complain about Amare, but he did not DEMAND the ball go through him all the time like Bosh did.

In some ways the situation reminds me of what Diaw went through in Atlanta although he was not a guy with a big contract with the Hawks. Bad coaching can really harm a player.

Hedo looks to be a refined version of Diaw ie a big who can hand the ball and shoot. However, Hedo is a bastly better shooter and with the Magic showed he's a great "last 30 seconds" guy

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[Sunburn]

I like Hedo as a player but looking at his contract numbers, they really are quite swollen. I'm starting to think getting a first rounder thrown in would not have been presuming too much. Oh well. Hopefully, he plays like Magic here.

 

[Errntknght]

IMO, Sarver chose the path to be without a GM at this time. I can't imagine Kerr refusing to stay on for a few more weeks.

However, in looking at Turkoglu, one must deduct LB's salary (14.7M) versus Turkoglu's salary to gain some perspective in regard to the financial consequences. See quote from Paul Coro at azcentral dated July 11th, 2010.



If I get the math anywhere close, I add the above three yearly salaries on Turkoglu, about 32M plus only 6M guaranteed his fourth season and I come up with about 38M dollars. Then I deduct about 15M of LB's salary and I come up with the Suns getting Turkoglu for three seasons at about 23M dollars even wiping out the fourth season if everything crashes.

Since the Suns were desperate for another quality big man (not to argue what position Turkoglu plays), I think Turkoglu helps the Suns more than LB. However, I will say, I think LB going to Toronto is a great move for him. I look for a good season from him after he breaks away from the constraints of the Suns. The same for Turkoglu after leaving Toronto.

http://www.azcentral.com/sports/sun...uns-acquire-hedo-turkoglu-josh-childress.html

Why not subtract Amare's new contract numbers from Hedo's since thats who he's replacing in our lineup - besides he looks like much more of a bargain that way...

 

[Irish]

Why not subtract Amare's new contract numbers from Hedo's since thats who he's replacing in our lineup - besides he looks like much more of a bargain that way...

I'm a bit puzzzled by the obsession with Hedo's contract. I haven't done a matchup of players/contracts, but I'm guessing he is not wildly out of line. It really comes down to what your expectations of him are.

When I look at his history, he seems a bit inconsistent. http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/t/turkohe01.html. What does stand out is his three point shooting other than last season, free throw shooting, and assists. It will be interesting to see how he reacts to being a major offensive factor this season.

 

[Chaz]

I expect Hedo to be a consistent if unspectacular contributor during the season.

It is during the playoffs that his value should be fully realized.

 

[Errntknght]

I just don't see how Hedo is going to stand up to playing PF game in and game out. He's been a bit player at that position every place he's been so far - not enough to even get a good read on him. I don't even see how we can hide him playing zone, without a ground covering center.

Really makes me wonder if Gentry had any input on that move...

 

[sunsfan88]

5 years later, he's stepping down

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/608680620382781440

 

[3rdside]

Good riddance - what a way to start your tenure by getting Turkey glue and the rest. Good rebound trades but even still. It's all on mcd now so let's see what he's got, which is hopefully better than the disaster he served us up this year.


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[BC867]

5 years later, he's stepping down

Lon Babby will transition from Suns president to senior advisor on Aug. 1 with GM Ryan McDonough becoming the head of basketball operations.

https://twitter.com/paulcoro/status/608680620382781440

I think Sarver should bring in two additional executives with titles of Head of Basketball Operations/GM. And rotate between them. A 3-headed honcho tandem.

One of them could move to Chief Scout and the other to Director of Marketing when they are not sitting in the big chair.

Sarver could tell the Press, "As long as I am owner, we are going with a 3 Head of Basketball Operations/GM tandem."

Y'know, like . . . oh, y'know.

 

[mojorizen7]

What the Suns really need is a cultural enema in terms of basketball philosophy. Someone(ownership, GM, HC) needs to come in here and be George Costanza.

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This person needs to come into the organization, be completely forthright and transparent with these changes, ignore what the fans expect and want in terms of entertainment, and disregard all that has come to be known as "Suns style of basketball."

Suffer through a couple bad seasons, attendance...and bring the fanbase around to recognize what playoff basketball teams truly look like. The trick is having an ownership/front office/basketball minds/coaching staff where everyone is on the same page. As long as Sarver is here i really don't see that happening.

 

[95pro]

What the Suns really need is a cultural enema in terms of basketball philosophy. Someone(ownership, GM, HC) needs to come in here and be George Costanza.

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This person needs to come into the organization, be completely forthright and transparent with these changes, ignore what the fans expect and want in terms of entertainment, and disregard all that has come to be known as "Suns style of basketball."

Suffer through a couple bad seasons, attendance...and bring the fanbase around to recognize what playoff basketball teams truly look like. The trick is having an ownership/front office/basketball minds/coaching staff where everyone is on the same page. As long as Sarver is here i really don't see that happening.

Coach Thibs

 

[Covert Rain]

Coach Thibs

Coach Thibs and jettisoning Lon Babby is a start. I wonder if Lon was forced out? Whenever you hear a guy is transitioning to "consultant" that is usually code speak for a friendly "firing".

Although I am not overly impressed with RD either. Babby should have been part of the initial cleaning from the get go by Sarver anyway. Maybe RD can do something.

 

[3rdside]

No McD / Hornacek deserve one more chance (Hornacek has about one season's grace period, McD about a season and a half). Dragic - as much I like him - messed it up for McD by winning two seasons ago so even though the most recent season sucked, it wasn't entirely McD's fault. He royally screwed it up - no doubt there - but there were mitigating circumstances.


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[mojorizen7]

Coach Thibs

I would embrace it obviously, but would the fans? Sarver? I think not.