Tim Hightower is PERFECT! He is the "joy of the draft class"

[Shane]

sorry Shane, but Boldin's missed major portions of 2 seasons (and would be a third if not for the bye, and still could be) while Dansby's missed a game here and there. LBers get nicked up and will miss a game, but WR who miss sustained portions of the season AND are older, shouldn't be the priority, especially considering that we've a) seen the offense completely shine without him and b) despite people saying Q's the "heart and soul" of the team, since this team finally stopped being a joke over the last two years, our three biggest victories have come with him on the sidelines.

Yes Boldin in one season missed 6 games and in another missed 4. I like how you added in the could be a third if not for the bye like that has some bearing on it. Dansby has missed 2 games in two different seasons and one game in each of the others. Im sure I could find you plenty of PB caliber LB'ers that have played plenty of 16 game seasons in there first four years if you really want me to so we can compare?

Are you really claiming that Q's freak near beheading in NY has anything at all to do with him being injury prone? I could see the toe injury or the knee? But this one Come on bro? That is quite the stretch. Especially if you are going to blame a guy for having the balls to do what he does. Which no other WR on this team does as far as we know yet.

Im Just trying to get your mindset. When you say that the team shouldnt let its best young talent leave then you turn around and say get rid of Boldin? I see that you think he isnt much of an impact. Although I hardly see how 27 catches 360 yards and 5 TD's in 4 games is very little impact?

Do you know how well the D performed in those games without Dansby? Because I truly cant remember off hand?

 

[Cheesebeef]

Yes Boldin in one season missed 6 games and in another missed 4. I like how you added in the could be a third if not for the bye like that has some bearing on it. Dansby has missed 2 games in two different seasons and one game in each of the others. Im sure I could find you plenty of PB caliber LB'ers that have played plenty of 16 game seasons in there first four years if you really want me to so we can compare?

be my guest. I think Duckjake did that a while ago and pretty much found Dansby was right in line with a lot of those guys.

Are you really claiming that Q's freak near beheading in NY has anything at all to do with him being injury prone? I could see the toe injury or the knee? But this one Come on bro?

I just know the guy gets injured a lot Shane. Freak occurrence or not, doesn't change what seems to be a pattern. He's tough as nails, but he's starting to make me think of Mr. Glass.

That is quite the stretch. Especially if you are going to blame a guy for having the balls to do what he does. Which no other WR on this team does as far as we know yet.

I'm not blaming him for anything but his style also puts himself out there to take more punishment, which means more injury, which will only get worse as he gets older.

Im Just trying to get your mindset. When you say that the team shouldnt let its best young talent leave then you turn around and say get rid of Boldin?

I'm not saying they should definitely get rid of Boldin, but if they're picking one guy over the other, I think Dansby's the guy because a) the offense the last two years has shown it can be just as productive without Boldin as they are with him and Dansby's younger and less of an injury risk. This isn't a slam on Q like you want it to be Shane. I just believe the offense actually has a lot of tools, an absolute stud WR, a guy who looks like he could be a really solid #2 WR and the Defense, if you take either Adrian or Dansby away will completely fall to pieces (like we saw last year when Dansby missed a couple games and Adrian missed the end of the year).

I see that you think he isnt much of an impact. Although I hardly see how 27 catches 360 yards and 5 TD's in 4 games is very little impact?

Do you know how well the D performed in those games without Dansby? Because I truly cant remember off hand?

yeah, I alluded to it up above. I remember Dansby getting injured at the very beginning of the Carolina game last year and a 5 million year old QB coming in from off the couch and putting up 250 and a TD on us, while we gave up William's first 100 game (out of 2 in his entire career). Then I remember a decent performance against the Skins and their anemic offense and then I remember Jeff Garcia throwing for 200 yards and Earnest Graham rushing for 134 against Tampa as the D forced O turnovers.

Then, I remember Dansby coming back to play what had been a 6-2 Detroit team and registering sacks and turnovers where in the previous three weeks, those had been few and far between.

 

[Savage58]

Hightower has vision and also the ability to move the pile.

What would be sweet is if the Cardinals got this guy in the next draft

http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings/dsprofile.php?pyid=81369&draftyear=2010&genpos=OT

Mahoney blocking for Hightower!! (Okay that sucked)

/golfclap

ROFL I appreciated it Kab

 

[Duckjake]

Dansby has missed 6 games in his 5 years. Boldin at least twice that.

The thing I did on Dansby was a review of overall stats among top NFL linebackers. While there were guys who had more tackles, and guys who had more sacks and guys who had more INTs and FFs there was nobody who had the combination of all those that was any higher than Dansby's. KD's overall numbers equaled or exceeded those of most if not all of the LBs highly revered by ASFN posters.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Yes Boldin in one season missed 6 games and in another missed 4. I like how you added in the could be a third if not for the bye like that has some bearing on it. Dansby has missed 2 games in two different seasons and one game in each of the others. Im sure I could find you plenty of PB caliber LB'ers that have played plenty of 16 game seasons in there first four years if you really want me to so we can compare?

Are you really claiming that Q's freak near beheading in NY has anything at all to do with him being injury prone? I could see the toe injury or the knee? But this one Come on bro? That is quite the stretch. Especially if you are going to blame a guy for having the balls to do what he does. Which no other WR on this team does as far as we know yet.

Im Just trying to get your mindset. When you say that the team shouldnt let its best young talent leave then you turn around and say get rid of Boldin? I see that you think he isnt much of an impact. Although I hardly see how 27 catches 360 yards and 5 TD's in 4 games is very little impact?

Do you know how well the D performed in those games without Dansby? Because I truly cant remember off hand?

I actually looked it up last off season and Dansby has been more durable than most of the top LB's. I know guys like Urlacher,Peterson, Merriman, Lewis, Spikes, et al have all missed more games than Karlos over the last few years.

 

[devilalum]

I am sick of watching James turn a 20 yard run into a gain of 6. Hightower is more exciting that James has been since joining the Cards.

Reminds me of an old saying.

You need 2 yards, James will get you 3. You need 5 yards, James will get you 3.

 

[Shogun]

Tim is doing well in his role, but for the umpteenth time it's not time to put Edge out to pasture yet and give the feature spot to Hightower. He's doing well and you know what to expect from him, so the songs of continual frustration with him not pulling off big runs is getting tired.

 

[Bert]

Why can't the o-line block this well on first & 10???

They do, that's why we gain 3-5 yards in those situations too...

 

[Skkorpion]

Tim is doing well in his role, but for the umpteenth time it's not time to put Edge out to pasture yet and give the feature spot to Hightower. He's doing well and you know what to expect from him, so the songs of continual frustration with him not pulling off big runs is getting tired.

What is getting tiring is your loyalty to U players is blinding you to the reality that Edge has become. Come on, Shogun, open your eyes.

Edge is consistently failing to hit open holes before they close. On early downs, that is a run game killer.

However, if Whisenhunt continues to give Edge the bulk of the carries over Hightower, I will concede you are correct and I will have unfairly maligned you. Whisenhunt knows what he's doing. I'm just some fan with a keyboard.

I do think you'll see the workload shift.

 

[Shogun]

What is getting tiring is your loyalty to U players is blinding you to the reality that Edge has become. Come on, Shogun, open your eyes.

Edge is consistently failing to hit open holes before they close. On early downs, that is a run game killer.

However, if Whisenhunt continues to give Edge the bulk of the carries over Hightower, I will concede you are correct and I will have unfairly maligned you. Whisenhunt knows what he's doing. I'm just some fan with a keyboard.

I do think you'll see the workload shift.

Oh, I'm not blind to what has become. He's certainly lost his giddy-up and no longer an upper echleon back, HOWEVA! I find that he's still a dependable one who is a good blocker and a nice veteran presence in a position that isn't exactly a strong point. I say that we stick with him as the main carrier the rest of this season and THEN address the situation. I'm not saying that Hightower can't get more carries, Lord knows there will be time for that. It's not the most enticing choice, but we are in a position that we don't have to throw a 5th rounder - who is averaging 3.0 a carry mind you - to the wolves when he already a steady (albiet frustrating) vet doing a solid job.

 

[MaoTosiFanClub]

Never mistake activity for achievement. Dansby should and will be a higher priority and there's no reason not to get both done once we cut dead weight like Edge along with the usual bump in the salary cap.

 

[JC_AZ]

Touchdown Timmy

 

[seesred]

Just got his jersey for my grandson and myself.

GBR
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[Duckjake]

McGinnis knows what he's doing. I'm just some fan with a keyboard.

Doesn't look right does it. Did McGinnis know what he was doing? History tells us no. Far from it. In fact there are several posters on this board who could have done as well or better than "no defense" Dave.

Whisenhunt has earned the kudos so far but he's the first Cardinal HC in 30 years that has been smarter than the average fan.

 

[Duckjake]

Steve Breaston and Tim Hightower. We've come a long way from Paris Johnson and Yusef Scott.

 

[nashman]

Edge is and SHOULD be the featured back for this team. Fact is while he may have lost a step he is still the better player. Hell even his 3.6 a carry this year surpasses TH's 3.0 not to mention James is the more experienced player which we need picking up blocks that the young TH hasn't proved he can do. Their is NO reason to change what is working now to give TH more carries than Edge. I understand some of you have some serious TH love going on but try keeping it in perspective, if TH has so much more explosiveness how come his YPC is only 3.0? You may see some of his quickness and think he is quick but he has gotten stopped in the backfield many times, while Edge always gets a couple even if they aren't there he grinds them out. Don't mess with whats working Whiz!

 

[Cheesebeef]

Steve Breaston and Tim Hightower. We've come a long way from Paris Johnson and Yusef Scott.

man, Paris Johnson and Yusef Scott... oof!

 

[Treesquid PhD]

sorry Shane, but Boldin's missed major portions of 2 seasons (and would be a third if not for the bye, and still could be) while Dansby's missed a game here and there. LBers get nicked up and will miss a game, but WR who miss sustained portions of the season AND are older, shouldn't be the priority, especially considering that we've a) seen the offense completely shine without him and b) despite people saying Q's the "heart and soul" of the team, since this team finally stopped being a joke over the last two years, our three biggest victories have come with him on the sidelines.

Right on, the facts many fans don't want to believe is that Boldin does not translate into wins, the Cardinals can and do win without Boldin. Something I am sure is not lost on the organization.

The popular logic is RB's are done around 30, there is no reason to believe that logic wouldn't apply to Boldin too, who's style and injury history resembles a RB more than a WR.

He is as good as gone IMO.