To Suns mgmt: Please get Royce White

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We need a superstar player, and while White is a risk because of the anxiety disorder (fear of flying) that can be overcome. His leadership, excellent skillset both on offense and defense, his ball handling, rebounding, and incredible passing would eventually make him our best player.

He can play pg, sg, sf, and pf. The only other player that I know that could do that was Magic. He is an excellent defender with great hands, good head and relentless motor. Think Boris Diaw skill set with Jarrod Dudley motor.

He has the potential to be a player that you build around. While this draft has a lot of good players, not many have that potential.

Do what it takes, get another pick, trade a player, whatever, just get White. He will end up being better than whoever we pick at #13.

Take a look.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DrzVBDoneZI
 
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What, he can't play center too? Magic could play all five positions. :)

Seriously I don't know much about him. He seems to be a risk worth taking. The thing I like about him is it would allow a team like the Suns to have bookend forwards... like having two PFs on the court at the same time.

I'm not sure if the Suns should take him at #13. The Suns need another first round pick badly to get a player like White. This is also a good draft to have a early second round pick.
 

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At his size, I'm struggling to find a historical comparison for the body control and ball handling that he possesses. Chris Webber and Larry Johnson come to mind. I don't want to use this comparison, but he looks and moves like Boris Diaw; although, he seems to have the necessary drive and selfishness that Boris clearly lacked.
 

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I know Simmons was pimping him in his column, but superstar? Really? He's a nice enough player to take a chance on in the late first (aka role players), but do you really think this Suns team can build around an undersized PF, with limited elevation and poor conditioning?

On the defensive end, White will likely face questions of how he'd fare covering NBA power forwards. His lack of size and elevation may limit him as a defender in the basket area, and his extra weight limits his lateral quickness and ability to step out and defend on the perimeter. He also seems to coast from time to time defensively, which is something NBA coaches would likely have less tolerance for.

 

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but do you really think this Suns team can build around an undersized PF, with limited elevation and poor conditioning?

You're talking about *****, right? I agree, he's a bench/role player at best.

Let's face it, our entire team is full of holes, and I'd be fine with taking a chance on a guy like White. It's just a shame that we made no effort to get additional first round picks by trading Nash/Hill others, as this draft looks like it's full of intriguing prospects.
 
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I think that evaluation is funny. He is extremely quick, especially for his size. He also was effectively both pg and pf for his team. Play like that and I think you take short breathers in a game.

I am not saying he is a guaranteed superstar, certainly not. But the potential is there. IMO more than any other player in the draft save one.
 

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#13 is probably a pretty high slot to pick a guy that NBADraft.net has going at 23 and DraftExpress has at 24. He could potentially become a nice roleplayer and if he develops into something like pre fat Diaw that would be excellent for him and whatever team ends up with him.

Guys like this are another reason the Suns should be looking to acquire more picks, like we discussed in the Dudley to Boston for their 2 picks thread. He may be a total wash out, but he could be serviceable and the Suns just need to start stock piling draft picks so they can take flyers on guys and let the chips fall where they may.
 
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#13 is probably a pretty high slot to pick a guy that NBADraft.net has going at 23 and DraftExpress has at 24. He could potentially become a nice roleplayer and if he develops into something like pre fat Diaw that would be excellent for him and whatever team ends up with him.

Guys like this are another reason the Suns should be looking to acquire more picks, like we discussed in the Dudley to Boston for their 2 picks thread. He may be a total wash out, but he could be serviceable and the Suns just need to start stock piling draft picks so they can take flyers on guys and let the chips fall where they may.

I do agree with this to a certain extent. I would love to pick up a 15-20 pick to get White, but I think someone is going to "reach" for him. GM's arent dumb. They can see talent. If all we have is #13, its not going to be White.

I wonder what it would take to pry a pick or two from Portland or one from Boston.
 

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Royce White = Boris Diaw (without the conditioning and unselfishness problems)

Jack of all trades but master of none
 

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Royce White = Boris Diaw (without the conditioning and unselfishness problems)

Jack of all trades but master of none

IMO, that's quite a compliment. Diaw had all the tools to become a star if he played aggressively. He is an enigma.
 

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Love this guy. I have been saying for a couple of weeks that I want one of the lottery wings (rivers/waiters/ross/lamb), a mid-late first for White, and an early second for Machado (who is every bit the floor general Marshall is he just didn't play at UNC.) Doubt any of that happens except for maybe the first.
 

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Nice highlights and I like his demeanor, but doesn't he seem really undersized? He wasn't that much taller than the guy interviewing him at the end.

The guy doing the interview was 7 foot. Just joking. :D

I know I should have watched the whole video.
 
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Nice highlights and I like his demeanor, but doesn't he seem really undersized? He wasn't that much taller than the guy interviewing him at the end.

His measurements at the combine were 6-8, 260 with a 7-0 wingspan and an 8-8.5. I would play him as a sf.

White is not a player who is going to stand out on the wings and wait for the ball to come to him. He is going to be in the middle of the action facilitating. His ability to rebound and run the break would really cause match up problems.

If Nash is still here, he would be less effective.
 
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After watching him play in the Big 12 I find the evaluations on here very odd honestly.

White might be versatile, but he's not going to amount to much. Think Julian Wright.
 

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I like White but really he has no true position. If we was able to play SF I would love him but at PF he is definitely small.

I would prefer to take a flyers on Wroten 6'6 PG/SG, Q.Miller 6'9 SF and Fab Melo 7' C towards the middle-end of the first round.

Wroten can be the biggest steal in the draft once he get NBA coaching and matures.
 
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Hollinger has White ranked #10 overall in this draft.

Lillard and Rivers are #18 and #19.

Just sayin.

To me, White is a sf. He can guard sf's and he can operate inside and out. His bulk makes him an absolute load of a mismatch. Play him with a pf, c, and two speedy guards.
 

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He can't shoot, is an average athlete and at over 260 lbs I have a hard time believing he can guard SFs.

As it is now he definitely has to play PF in the NBA.

You can't use Hollingers rankings to evaluate cross-position. Hollinger himself admits that his model overrates big guys.
 

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JC- I think you should look in to Draymond Green....he's basically the same type of player White is but with no off court issues and less hype.
 

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His measurements at the combine were 6-8, 260 with a 7-0 wingspan and an 8-8.5. I would play him as a sf.

White is not a player who is going to stand out on the wings and wait for the ball to come to him. He is going to be in the middle of the action facilitating. His ability to rebound and run the break would really cause match up problems.If Nash is still here, he would be less effective.

Sounds like another Ced Ceballos. I could live with that. We need boards, bad!
 
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