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Skkorpion

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You have so little knowledge of Cards history almost every thing you post about Cards anything predating January is wrong.

Too many of your posts end up with you talking about yourself. That is unacceptable.

Take a week off. Rethink your shtick.

I took myself out of the mod business but you were my unfinished business.

You are banned for 7 days. We tolerate almost anything from true cards fans. Figure out why you are here and act accordingly.
 

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I know I may be over stepping my bounds here or stepping on your toes Skorp and that is in no means what I am trying to do so please dont take no offense. There may be other things going on that I dont know about and if so disregard what I am about to say.

But couldnt this have been done in private way in a PM or email to VF instead of making this a public matter.

Publicly calling out someone like this is just wrong IMO. It should be a private matter.

I just think it would make us ridicule him even more then we already do when he does come back, and just make the problem even worse.

I just dont think this kind of stuff should be out in the open no matter who it is, it could have been handled differently.
 

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joeshmo said:
I just dont think this kind of stuff should be out in the open no matter who it is, it could have been handled differently.
personally, it is good to know that I am not the only one who is tired of his dribble..... I think this was a special circumstance and long overdue IMO
 

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The ridicule

stuff is exactly what some "true" Cards fans should be getting warnings about. And, i really don't want to hear the lame excuses as to why VF makes it OK to do it by what he says. Some people on this board are mean sprited and hurtfull. That's weak in many ways.
 

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I don't disagree ryan

but it all could be handled better. He figner nails the blackboard on me also. Biut I do try to remain civil and let the mods handle it, as they should some others on here,
 

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joeshmo said:
But couldnt this have been done in private way in a PM or email to VF instead of making this a public matter.
Been there done that.
 

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THIS ONE IS FOR YOU KOC. TIM WE DID IT.
Skkorpion said:
You have so little knowledge of Cards history almost every thing you post about Cards anything predating January is wrong.

Too many of your posts end up with you talking about yourself. That is unacceptable.

Take a week off. Rethink your shtick.

I took myself out of the mod business but you were my unfinished business.

You are banned for 7 days. We tolerate almost anything from true cards fans. Figure out why you are here and act accordingly.

:biglaugh: :thumbup: :moon: :fans: :band: :banned: :band: :cards:
 

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jstadvl said:
Some people on this board are mean sprited and hurtfull. That's weak in many ways.

Too many people, IMO. And often that mean spiritedness seems to be contagious. Sad commmentary on our society.
 

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What happened? What I miss? I love it when people lose their stuff around here! Which post broke the camel's back? Anyone? Anybody? :shrug:
 

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I think it more of a build than anything but was his last thread.
http://www.arizonasportsfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=31217

I wonder if I am considered mean-spirited. That would really break my heart.


Ahh the I am a Vikings fan yet I know all about everthing. Instigation and all that! I have seen this myself.

Take some advise that Endzone gave me. FIND SOMETHING BETTER TO DO WITH YOUR TIME INSTEAD OF POKING PEOPLE WITH A STICK ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD.

Since then I have been much happier. Plus why is has Vikings fan spent some much time on a Cardinals board?

Peace
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jstadvl said:
but it all could be handled better. He figner nails the blackboard on me also. Biut I do try to remain civil and let the mods handle it, as they should some others on here,

The problems with simply PM'ing him, is that he doesn't read what you write. He takes one line, and immediately responds to it.

Case in point, when he was flapping at the gums about the Wonderlic, I asked him to back up what he was saying with fact. I knew before I posted it that he would respond with Phill Simms, Dan Marino, Daunte Culpepper. I knew that would be his response and I took steps to head that off by stating, that three examples out of thousands does not prove anything. I went as far to use the example that I personally know three survivors of cancer. By his logic, cancer is 100% survivable because I have three examples out of millions.

I also pointed out in my post that, the burden of proof is always on the person making the claim. I was not making any claim either way about the Wonderlic, therefore I have nothing to prove. He was making the claims that Wondierlic is not an indicator of anything, therefore it was his job to back it up with facts.

His immediate response was "Phil Simms, Dan Marino, Daunte Culpepper. And I don't have to prove it, I've mad my case, if you don't believe me go look it up."

That tells me a couple things.

First, he didn't read my post at all. He read the first line that said "Back up your claims".

Second, he can't make an argument using facts, it's beyond is ability because to him, it everyones job to prove him wrong. Which is ironinc, because I bet if he was accused of murder, he would appreciate the fact we have to prove him guilty, rather than him proving himself innocent.

Once I realized you can't possibly hold him accountable for what he says by asking him to back it up, I added him to my ignore list. The only person on that list, despite the fact there are some abrasive individuals around here. At least they can form a coherent argument, which is all I ask.

Trust me, it makes reading the forums much easier. I have not had a vikesfan post make me want to eat my eyeballs in a month and a half, unless I have the misfortune of reading a quoted reply from somone who was duped into responding to him. You can't reason with someone like vikesfan using a well thought out reply, it's a waste of time.

I keep my mouth shut on a lot of Cardinals issues because I live in NY and have not had the oppotunity to watch a lot of their games, I usually chime in with statistical things like Quan's vs. Johnson's drop percentage because those are things I can have as good a grip of as other people. I made alot of noise before the draft about our defense being horrible, but again that was backed up from analysis from footballoutsiders.com, who's stat methods placed our defense and offense last, but our defense significantly below the NFL average.

I know my place here, and I try and not step on the toes of the veterans unless I think something they are saying is completely out of whack, which so far I believe has not happened. Hell, compare our post counts, we registered around the same time, and then compare the ratio of posts to insightful statements. Mine is not as high as the vets around here, but I bet I beat out vikesfan by at least 10-1.

Would a PM to vikesfan have accomplished this? No. So I think Skkorps actions were justified and fair. He can still read this post I am making about him, he just can't respond with...

"Simms, Marino, Culpepper" like he would have if he was allowed to post.

Skkorp, thank you.

Edit: Me fail English, that's unpossible.
 
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About Viksfan,

Most of his posts were inaccurate, poorly conceived and long-winded. Every once in a while he had something worth saying. I found that eventually I just skipped his posts because it wasn't worth the time. Any arguement to his threads, by any poster, were pointless and only clog up a great message board. I tended to skip entire threads with a "you said, I said theme", I doubt that I'm alone.

We all know there is a type of poster that spawns and thrives off of posting diarhia. Why respond? It only fuels them and drags the whole board down, then Skkorp has to be the bad guy and pull the plug. Ignore the flamers. They usually have a short attention span and will crawl away.

Shuesters
 

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You know what I don't get? All these people who put their own self-worth into what sports teams they follow. Somehow, since we follow a team that struggles, we must be ignorant and losers. But, those who follow successful teams must be superior. It's just pathetic. Trash-talking about teams where YOU HAVE NO INFLUENCE ON THE SUCCESS OR FAILURE of the team in question is just sad.

These are usually individuals who struggle in other areas in their own lives, and use sports as an escape to pump themselves up and make them feel better.

*sigh*
 

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joeshmo said:
Not called for.:thumbdown

hey man take it in jest, it's meant to be funny. Found it on the net, thought you guys would like it. Personally, I have no beef with Vikesfan. Really. Only thing I really dislike is that sometimes we'll have a perfectly good thread going, and then it devolves into 8-10 pages of long arguments with vikesfan. It really degrades the board, don't you think?
 

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vince56 said:
hey man take it in jest, it's meant to be funny. Found it on the net, thought you guys would like it. Personally, I have no beef with Vikesfan. Really. Only thing I really dislike is that sometimes we'll have a perfectly good thread going, and then it devolves into 8-10 pages of long arguments with vikesfan. It really degrades the board, don't you think?

I am not debating about VF's style of posting degrading the board. Becuase it does.

The simple fact is when you put a cartoon that suggests a person should die, it is not meant to be funny. Sorry the cartoon is in very poor taste, anyway you put it, whether you made the cartoon or not.

All you had to do was say Threadwaster and leave it at that.
 

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joeshmo said:
The simple fact is when you put a cartoon that suggests a person should die, it is not meant to be funny. Sorry the cartoon is in very poor taste, anyway you put it, whether you made the cartoon or not.

All you had to do was say Threadwaster and leave it at that.
Get some backbone dude...

It was just a joke
 

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Ryanwb said:
Get some backbone dude...

It was just a joke

I have no backbone becuase I think the suggestion of death in such a trival case is classeless.

Get some class dude...

Suggesting Death is not and will never be a joke, in any circumstance.
 
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