jstadvl said:
but it all could be handled better. He figner nails the blackboard on me also. Biut I do try to remain civil and let the mods handle it, as they should some others on here,
The problems with simply PM'ing him, is that he doesn't read what you write. He takes one line, and immediately responds to it.
Case in point, when he was flapping at the gums about the Wonderlic, I asked him to back up what he was saying with fact. I knew before I posted it that he would respond with Phill Simms, Dan Marino, Daunte Culpepper. I knew that would be his response and I took steps to head that off by stating, that three examples out of
thousands does not prove anything. I went as far to use the example that I personally know three survivors of cancer. By his logic, cancer is 100% survivable because I have three examples out of millions.
I also pointed out in my post that, the burden of proof is
always on the person making the claim. I was not making any claim either way about the Wonderlic, therefore I have nothing to prove.
He was making the claims that Wondierlic is not an indicator of anything, therefore it was his job to back it up with facts.
His immediate response was "Phil Simms, Dan Marino, Daunte Culpepper. And I don't have to prove it, I've mad my case, if you don't believe me go look it up."
That tells me a couple things.
First, he didn't read my post at all. He read the first line that said "Back up your claims".
Second, he can't make an argument using facts, it's beyond is ability because to him, it everyones job to prove him wrong. Which is ironinc, because I bet if he was accused of murder, he would appreciate the fact
we have to prove him guilty, rather than him proving himself innocent.
Once I realized you can't possibly hold him accountable for what he says by asking him to back it up, I added him to my ignore list. The only person on that list, despite the fact there are some abrasive individuals around here. At least they can form a coherent argument, which is all I ask.
Trust me, it makes reading the forums much easier. I have not had a vikesfan post make me want to eat my eyeballs in a month and a half, unless I have the misfortune of reading a quoted reply from somone who was duped into responding to him. You can't reason with someone like vikesfan using a well thought out reply, it's a waste of time.
I keep my mouth shut on a lot of Cardinals issues because I live in NY and have not had the oppotunity to watch a lot of their games, I usually chime in with statistical things like Quan's vs. Johnson's drop percentage because those are things I can have as good a grip of as other people. I made alot of noise before the draft about our defense being horrible, but again that was backed up from analysis from footballoutsiders.com, who's stat methods placed our defense and offense last, but our defense significantly below the NFL average.
I know my place here, and I try and not step on the toes of the veterans unless I think something they are saying is completely out of whack, which so far I believe has not happened. Hell, compare our post counts, we registered around the same time, and then compare the ratio of posts to insightful statements. Mine is not as high as the vets around here, but I bet I beat out vikesfan by at least 10-1.
Would a PM to vikesfan have accomplished this? No. So I think Skkorps actions were justified and fair. He can still read this post I am making about him, he just can't respond with...
"Simms, Marino, Culpepper" like he would have if he was allowed to post.
Skkorp, thank you.
Edit: Me fail English, that's unpossible.
