Today vs. Monday

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Are the Cards really that much worse off than they were 3 days ago?

Did anyone read Peter King's article on CNN.com today? He thinks Plummer is worth the gamble. Of course, he also thought the Randy Ratio in Minnesota last year was going to have Randy Moss setting NFL records. He does, however, have this quote from potentially more reliable sources:
"Six personnel directors and pro scouts who last week were asked for their take on Plummer responded with characterizations ranging from "awful" to "clueless" to "incredibly careless"..."
Its obvious that Plummers value to the Cards is debatable at best.

As for David Boston... I'm not so worried about his off the field stuff and potential suspension as I am about his knee and foot. He had "tendonitis" in his knee during training camp and then in the season developed tears in in the patellar tendon. It was not like he took a hit like McGahee or KVB. It just happened. This sounds like it could easily turn into a chronic condition. Which may be why Graves said there were on the field questions as well as the off the field ones.
Plus, it's pretty obvious from his quotes after signing that Boston was not happy here and probably would not have been much of a performer.

So really, on Monday the Cards were facing major risks and in need for some major changes for next year after a 5-11 season. And now, well, I just don't see that much difference.
 

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Thank you jmr!

I know everyone is disappointed with what happened (and didn't happen) yesterday.

But I prefer to look at it like this. Take the name away from the player. Now, I tell you that your favorite team just signed a quarterback to a seven year/$40.0 million deal. And, oh by the way, his stats last year were 56.6% completion percentage, 69.0 qb rating, 18 TDs/20 INTs, and 2972 yards. Would this be a good thing?
 
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Originally posted by JeffGollin

Yes.

Eloquent reply.

Seriously, if Boston were still slowed by injuries next year and Plummer were the QB, the Cards would still in a world of hurt next year.
Today they are still in a world of hurt. What really is the difference?
 

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Thanks jmr. I have been called an eternal optimist when it comes to the Cardinals, but my faith has waiverd seriously in the last few days. Why didn't we at least offer a contract to Colvin??? Maybe something Graves says on KDUS will further soothe my savage brow.
 

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I posted something similar to your thoughts last night saying basically the same thing how bad is this really?

I think when people speak of Boston they assume a lot. They assume he will perform up to his potential. Now he may for another team but I think he got what he needed out of the Cardinals and wasn't going to kill himself for this team.

Graves was basically screwed from the beginning and getting Boston to stay would have only left you with a headache on how to actually get him to play up to his potential

He could fake injury, he could do a whole lot to muck with the team if he was miffed about being tagged.

I am still very optimistic! What is better than Monday is Jake Plummer is gone and I don't care who we put in there it will be better in the long run than keeping Jake.
 

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Jim Mora was just on the Tony Kornhiser show talking about Plummer and Boston. I realize that it's Jim Mora but he was very surprised that Plummer and Boston got the deals they got, and doesn't think either of them are worth the risk...Plummer because he's not very good and Boston because of the off field problems and injuries.
 

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are we worse than monday? hmm let's see . . .

McCown fades back, he's rushed, he heaves a ball to Jake Soliday, no, wait, that's McCaddley, christ, does anyone know these wrs?!?

yeah, no worse, right, keep telling yourself that . . .
 
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Originally posted by PHXSPORTS4LIFE
are we worse than monday? hmm let's see . . .

McCown fades back, he's rushed, he heaves a ball to Jake Soliday, no, wait, that's McCaddley, christ, does anyone know these wrs?!?

yeah, no worse, right, keep telling yourself that . . .

Keep telling yourself Jake was suddenly going to have a break out season at SDS this year. Keep telling yourself Boston was going to play his heart out and have no lingering injury effects.

It was a mess at the start of the week. Its a mess today.
 

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Originally posted by TucsonCardfan
Jim Mora was just on the Tony Kornhiser show talking about Plummer and Boston. I realize that it's Jim Mora but he was very surprised that Plummer and Boston got the deals they got, and doesn't think either of them are worth the risk...Plummer because he's not very good and Boston because of the off field problems and injuries.

Same TucsonCardFan (esq.) from the "old" board??
 
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