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Those of you who have been talking about the possibility of drafting Badiane will not like this article. No way this is a smokescreen. - Joe

Walton Shines, Badiane Shows Potential


By Dustin Krugel, Suns.com
Posted: June 18, 2003

Two draft prospects whose stock is reportedly on the rise left two different impressions on the Suns during a private workout Wednesday morning.

Fresh off an impressive showing at the Chicago Pre-Draft Camp (June 3-6), University of Arizona forward Luke Walton continued to impress in a tryout in front of the Suns’ brass. Walton, who was projected to be a mid-second round pick, at best, only one month ago, could move up into the first round of next Thursday’s draft.

“I said coming back from Chicago, I think he has perhaps played his way into the late first round,” Suns President and General Manager Bryan Colangelo said. “If not, there are several teams that are looking at him as a second round pick, and he has a good shot at making a team.”

Malick Badiane, a native of Senegal, also supposedly shot up most draft boards after an individual workout in front of several NBA teams in Chicago, according to a recent ESPN.com article. However, some Suns’ insiders questioned whether the skinny 6-11 power forward is making the right decision to enter the draft at the age of 19.

“At 19 years old, he’s not ready to play yet,” admitted Suns’ Senior Vice President of Player Personnel Dick Van Arsdale. “Tremendous reach and some athleticism for a big guy, but he’s a guy who, in my opinion, is not ready to make a transition to the NBA yet. But he has a lot of potential.”

While some draft experts still question what position Walton will ultimately play in the pros, having played mostly inside for the Wildcats, Van Arsdale believes Walton’s intangibles will help him out in the long run.

“Luke is intriguing because he’s such a smart player,” Van Arsdale said of Walton, who is the son of Hall of Famer Bill Walton. “Great footwork. He knows how to play the game. He plays it the way it’s supposed to be played. He doesn’t have great athleticism so he compensates by knowing how to use his body when he plays.”

Although the 23-year-old doesn’t have his father’s size, Van Arsdale said Luke has a little old school in him.

“I’ve never been good comparing players, (but) I would call him a throwback,” Van Arsdale said when asked to make a comparison. “He’s from an older time, back in the ‘60s and ‘70s, and I mean that as a compliment. His dad wasn’t any good (laughs), but I mean that as a compliment because he knows how to play. I think fundamentally the players were better in the ‘60s and ‘70s.”

Oddly, Walton, an Honorable Mention All-America selection by the Associated Press following his junior and senior seasons, is considered one of the draft’s best passers despite playing in the frontcourt.

“I think that’s nothing but an asset for him, because you’re always looking for guys who can make the other players better and he does that,” Van Arsdale added.

The 6-8 forward ranks fourth in school history with 582 assists and is one of just three players in Pac-10 history to total 1,000 career points, 500 rebounds and 500 assists, joining former NBA players Ron Lee (Oregon) and Pooh Richardson (UCLA). Lee was a Suns’ first round selection in 1976 and played three seasons (1976-79) in the Valley of the Sun.

While Walton had the luxury of being a fifth-year senior at the U of A and was exposed to basketball at a very young age because of his famous father, Badiane didn’t start playing until five years ago at the age of 14.

In his first season playing in Germany’s second division for Langen in 2002-03, Badiane was among the leading rebounders (8.9) despite playing only 23.4 minutes per game. The African also averaged 11.7 points a game, and although the league does not publish a total of blocked shots for the season, a review of most box scores suggests he averaged about two per game.

“He’s an interesting player and I think that someone in the draft is going to take a shot with him, because he is extremely long,” Colangelo noted. “He can block some shots and he’s an interesting player that way. He’s going to be a factor defensively because of his length.”

Van Arsdale scoffed at an ESPN.com report that quoted an unnamed NBA scout that said, “I hate comparisons, but how different is (Badiane) from (2002-03 NBA Rookie of the Year) Amaré Stoudemire in terms of strength and desire? I don’t think there’s a that big a gap.”

“To me that shows what ESPN knows about evaluating players,” Van Arsdale responded. “There’s one guy last year that said Amaré’s a role player, so I don’t put much credence in that stuff. There isn’t any comparison to Amaré in my opinion. (Badiane) is a lot taller, but that’s really a stretch to compare those two guys, even in the long run.”

The Suns also worked out Polish forward Szymon Szewczyk and Penn State forward Koko Archibong on Wednesday, and have scheduled two more workouts (Thursday and Saturday) before the June 26 draft. Phoenix owns the 17th overall selection in the first round.
 

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Walton Interview

Question: How did the workout go?

Luke Walton: It went pretty well. We just did a lot one-on-one, two-on-two stuff, but it was a good workout, got a good sweat going. A lot of workouts are the same.

Question: Many publications have your stock in the draft going up. Do you feel that way?

Walton: I don’t know. It’s hard to tell. You hear so much different stuff that I’m at the same place I was before, where I’m just going to do the workouts and hopefully teams will like me.

Question: Is it tough to tune all of the predictions and mock drafts out?

Walton: Not really. I don’t think anyone really knows where anyone’s going besides the top couple of picks. I try not to worry about it. All the mock drafts are just a waste of time.

Question: What would it be like for you if the Suns drafted you and you got to stay in Arizona?

Walton: It would be great to stay in Arizona. I don’t know how interested they are in me. They brought me to a workout so that’s good. I would love to play here.

Question: Are you concerned about whether you would be more suited for the three or four position?

Walton: I think that teams have had concerns like that, but I think if I go on the court I can prove that I can hang at either position and cause difficulties on the opposite end with both positions. I’m not too worried about that once I get on a team.

Question: Would you say that passing and moving without the ball are your strengths?

Walton: Those and the court sense, just being out there on the court making plays and stuff like that.

Question: Do you prefer the three or the four and do you think your talents suit one of the other better in the NBA game?

Walton: Not really. I like both of them. I like banging inside. I like being outside and making plays. I really don’t have a preference for either one.

Question: Is your ability to hit shots going to be the key?

Walton: Definitely. That’s what I’ve been working on every day. It’s hard to work on it when you’re doing these workouts every other day in different cities. Before this and on my off days, that’s the main thing I’m concentrating on.

Question: What kind of advice has your dad given you during this whole workout process?

Walton: He just told me to enjoy this whole thing. He said not very many people get this opportunity and you really don’t have any say in where you go. You just have to play hard and enjoy what’s going on.

Question: How much did playing for Lute Olson and Arizona prepare you for the NBA?

Walton: A lot. He’s one of the main reasons that I think I’m at this level that I’m at right now, developing as a player and a person. At U of A, it was the greatest place I could have been for my years there and I give a lot of credit to the whole coaching staff out there.

Question: Will being in school for four years help you out in the NBA?

Walton: Yeah, definitely. I’m not one of those players that comes in as athletic as everybody or as strong as everyone, so I kind of think I needed the time to grow as a person and mature physically off the court and on the court.

Question: How important is it for you to remain free from injury right now?

Walton: It’s real important. I’ve got to prove that I’m healthy, that I’m able to play at this next level, the elite level in all of basketball. It’s a real important time. I’m just trying to get on a team. I think once I get on a team I’ll be able to show I can play.

Question: Are you 100 percent now physically?

Walton: Yeah. My body feels great. I’ve got to be with the amount of traveling and playing every day that I’m doing. You’ve got to be feeling great to do it all.

Question: Have you been receiving positive feedback from the workouts so far?

Walton: For the most part it’s been good. I don’t hear too much. I have my agent call the programs and he gets the scoop and he’s telling me they’re hearing good things. Hopefully it will work out.

Question: Does your dad get the scoop on how you are doing too, being involved in the league?

Walton: Yeah, but I don’t think he’s been out there asking too much. He’s been real busy lately. He kind of leaves this whole process in my hands and he’s letting me handle it.

Question: How many teams have you been working out for?

Walton: Boston twice. New Jersey, Chicago, the Lakers, here and I fly to Indiana tonight.

Question: How does the pressure of playing in big college games compare to working out for the NBA’s top brass across the country?

Walton: It’s different. It’s easier when you’re out there playing. You don’t really think about anything, you’re just playing your game. When you’re out here doing shooting drills and they’re all watching you, you kind of feel the pressure on all your shots. It’s nothing I can’t handle.

Question: Have you knocked down your shot consistently during the workout process?

Walton: It was feeling a lot better earlier in the workouts. Like I said, I haven’t really had the time to keep working on it, but it felt good today and it’s coming around.

Question: What are your earliest memories of the NBA when your dad was playing?

Walton: The Celtics. Hanging out in the practice facilities, going on the busses and stuff like that until they kicked us all out (laughs). Those were my earliest memories. All the guys, McHale, Bird, they used to mess with us all the time; make us go do stuff to get in trouble. But they were all great to us.

Question: What was it like to go back there to work out with the prospect of possibly playing there?

Walton: It was a lot of fun. My family was excited. I was getting calls from other old Celtics people. Scott Wedman and his wife called, and they were all excited, so it was really fun.

Question: You said earlier the Suns only have the 17th pick and yet they’re bringing you in. What does that tell you?

Walton: I have no idea (laughs). Any team that wants to bring me in and work me out, I’m a basketball player, that’s what I love to do. Anyone calls, I’ll go in and play and work out for them. As far as knowing how much they liked me, I’ve got no idea.

Question: Where have you been working out?

Walton: I’ve been going non-stop since the pre-draft camp. Before that I was up in Vancouver with Luke Ridnour.

Question: Did you grow up dreaming of playing in the NBA like your dad?

Walton: Definitely. Ever since I was little that’s all I’ve been dreaming about.
 

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Badiane Interview

We need this guy just so we can have a worse interview than anyone else in the league. This might be the worst thing I have read, but I had to post it...after reading it a couple times I started to laugh


Suns.com: How did your workout go today?

Malick Badiane: Yeah, it was very good. It was good.

Suns.com: How many workouts with NBA teams have you had so far? I know you had one in Chicago.

Badiane: Yeah, I had one in Chicago. I had one with L.A. Lakers, Boston, Memphis and (Phoenix) today.

Suns.com: Are the workouts that difficult?

Badiane: No. It is not difficult.

Suns.com: Can you talk a little about your basketball experience? How long have you been playing basketball?

Badiane: I am from Senegal. I’ve played (basketball) for five years when I was 14.

Suns.com: How do you like playing for your German club (Langen)?

Badiane: I play in Germany in Frankfurt. I’ve played for two years.

Suns.com: Have you improved a lot in the last two years?

Badiane: Yeah. I’m getting a lot better. I work out a lot. I just have to practice.

Suns.com: What do you like to do on the basketball court?

Badiane: Rebound and block shots.

Suns.com: What do you need to work on?

Badiane: I need to keep working every day to take it to the next level.

Suns.com: What do you think of this hot Arizona weather? Is it that much different than Senegal’s climate?

Badiane: Yeah, (Senegal) is like here. It’s warm. It’s hot.

Suns.com: So you like that?

Badiane: Yeah. Yeah.
 

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I am starting to think Walton is going to sneak into the later first round. He is probably ready to contribute off the bench right away. I could easily see him as a Laker.
 

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I would love for Walton to land here...not because I like his game though. No, I'd like Walton because I would love to hear his old man backtrack on every ridiculous comment he has made about Marbury over the past 2 years. I get the feeling that if his pops ever gets to watch Marbury, he might have sing a different tune.
 

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I think it is funny we hardly worked out prospects that would be viable choices at #17 if you look at it right now.

David West. Collison, Zarko might even be a stretch. Luke Ridnour could still be there. That's the only ones that could go that high.

But we haven't worked out Barbosa, Sofoklis, Banks, Pavlovic, Gaines, Troy Bell right now and probably won't if you see who came in lately.
 

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Originally posted by Charles V
I would love for Walton to land here...not because I like his game though. No, I'd like Walton because I would love to hear his old man backtrack on every ridiculous comment he has made about Marbury over the past 2 years. I get the feeling that if his pops ever gets to watch Marbury, he might have sing a different tune.

Nah. I don't want that donkey-toothed freak following the Suns every move. Could you imagine him whining about his boy not getting playing time...Marbury not getting him the ball. I couldn't live with it.
 

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Originally posted by slinslin
I think it is funny we hardly worked out prospects that would be viable choices at #17 if you look at it right now.

David West. Collison, Zarko might even be a stretch. Luke Ridnour could still be there. That's the only ones that could go that high.

But we haven't worked out Barbosa, Sofoklis, Banks, Pavlovic, Gaines, Troy Bell right now and probably won't if you see who came in lately.

I was thinking the same thing. Methinks we are looking to aquire a 2nd rounder, going by the number of no-name prospects we are bringing in. Dealing our 17th pick wouldn't surprise me either.
 

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East Valley Tribune quotes Colangelo saying that it is very unlikely the Suns would acquire another pick.
 
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I think they are bringing in a few of those players still. I thought the big Greek guy was going to be working out for them. Of course some of these guys may have commitments from teams with higher draft picks already. Who knows?

I was thinking the same thing last night though. The Suns have hardly worked out all of the players that would be possibilities at #17. I wonder if they've tried to get Jarvis Hayes in there. With their need for a shooter I'm not sure how they could pass them if he slides on draft night.

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ROFL

Brian Cook for the 2nd time
Some Euro who withdrew his name from the draft
plus Koko Archibong and Noel Felix worked out today.

What is all that about? Didn't we have Koko and Felix for a workout already? 2 guys who have 1% chance of being drafted working out twice for us?

Now we have 4 more players coming in on Saturday. One of them is Sofoklis and the other Barbosa?

We still didn't work out Bell, Banks, Pavlovic, Gaines...
 
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You gotta think we're bringing those guys in as summer league team additions and undrafted rookie free agents.
 

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It almost seems like they have already made a trade to go lower in the first and maybe have a 2nd also???

:confused: :confused:
 

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Originally posted by sunsfn
It almost seems like they have already made a trade to go lower in the first and maybe have a 2nd also???

:confused: :confused:

.....or, maybe Googs & their 1st pick for ??? and a 2nd? or, even better, Penny (LOFL) & their 1st pick for ??? and a 2nd. I know JC said they weren't going to pay the luxury tax but don't see where there's any choice.
 

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I don't find these visits odd in the least. Lets not forget that the Suns record of finding gems over the past decade is pretty amazing. Even going back to Marion. I think it was a complete shock to everyone that Marion was taken so high in the draft. Finley at 21. Nash at 15. Person at 20(?) None of those players were on the radar. Except the Suns scouts radar. I have no doubt that if there is an unknown gem the Suns will find him. Lets also not forget that the Suns know how to play poker. By bringing in more guys other teams will have no idea who the Suns plan to take. So there is less risk of a team trading ahead of them to take a player they have interest in if other teams aren't aware of who they will take.

And maybe it is true that no trade is planned. But the Suns are going to be darn sure that they are prepared just incase someone makes an offer they can't refuse. If someone does offer a trade that changes their draft position up or down they obviously need to be aware of different players.
 
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Originally posted by Chaplin
You gotta think we're bringing those guys in as summer league team additions and undrafted rookie free agents.

That's what I think. They are auditioning players for summer league spots, and they need bodies for these workouts. I think there is absolutely zero chance they are going to draft either of those guys at #17.

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