Todd Bowles

[Reddog]

I have seen a bunch of posts speculation that if Bowles were to be fired (which I don't see happening this year) that we would bring him back. I thought the same thing. BA is very loyal though so what would he do with Bettcher? He has coached with Amos Jones since Temple so I cant see him sliding Bettcher over there even as atrocious as our special teams have been.

 

[RugbyMuffin]

One would hope he would hire Bowles back. That would be best for the team.

 

[Harry]

Jets still firm on keeping him. They know you can't win with what they have atop their QB depth chart. They will let Bowles audition the newbies and give him at least a year to go forward. The only internal criticism seems to surround the play of the secondary. Of course with the line unable to generate sacks Revis Island is taking on water. They still have faith but if the defense doesn't show more next year he'll be available.

 

[WisconsinCard]

One would hope he would hire Bowles back. That would be best for the team.

Pipe dream, he's not coming back. What exactly has JB done to get demoted. It's not like the defense is losing games, if anything they're keeping us in games.

 

[Shane]

Yea he's not coming back... Bettcher has done nothing to warrant getting fired…

 

[juza76]

at now arizona defense is in the top 5 in the league
we are playing better then few weeks a go

i dont see arians diminish betcher role, downgrading him with special team duties

maybe next season he can come back as assistant head coach and defensive back coach

someone of the old coaches probably will retire

 

[DVontel]

Not if he has Calais lined up at ILB(or any of our DLinemen for that matter) like he did with Sheldon Richardson at times.


I love Bowles, but he gets overrated a bit here.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

We have obviously played better the last two week but the 9ers and Jets are bottom of the barrel teams at this point. I definitely think the defense has regressed since Bowles left. Hopefully Bettcher steps up from here on out. We will find out this weekend if the level of opponent matters. If Seattle comes in to town and score 30+ point, we have problems.

 

[AZCrazy]

The next two weeks will tell us a lot as to where this team really stands in the NFL pecking order. We just have too much talent on the defensive side to be losing games. Some say Bettcher hasn't done anything to warrant getting fired. We'll see. Losing to Jimmy Garrapolo, Tyrod Taylor, and Case Keenum to start a season isn't exactly golden resume material.

 

[NYCARDS]

I don't see Bowles being fired. Looks like Geno Smith will get the start for Jets against Ravens. Bowles will get the opportunity to audition QBs as this season is now over for Jets but he will be back with them.

 

[Bert]

Yes, the Jets are a dumpster fire this year, but If they fire Bowles after winning 10 games last season with this horrible team and Ryan Fitzpatrick, then the Jets are an even worse organization than I thought. You have to give a coach longer than 2 seasons, he doesn't even have a full roster of his 'guys' yet. Crazy how impatient everyone in the NFL seems to be now.

 

[Reddog]

Hopefully Bettcher steps up from here on out. We will find out this weekend if the level of opponent matters. If Seattle comes in to town and score 30+ point, we have problems.

No disrespect to Bettcher but you can't expect too much out of the guy given he had virtually no coordinator/coaching experience. He has actually done pretty well given that fact. He has been learning on the job. There is no comparison between his and Bowles experience, first as an NFL player and then as a long time coach. I too would be shocked if they let him go after just two years but the Jets are and have been a dumpster fire for a long time. Likely just a matter of time for him if the management there continues to struggle with personnel.

 

[overseascardfan]

The next two weeks will tell us a lot as to where this team really stands in the NFL pecking order. We just have too much talent on the defensive side to be losing games. Some say Bettcher hasn't done anything to warrant getting fired. We'll see. Losing to Jimmy Garrapolo, Tyrod Taylor, and Case Keenum to start a season isn't exactly golden resume material.

Totally agree. Bettcher looked overwhelmed in preseason and through first 4 games, he's not a rookie DC, he's in his second year. Defense looked good against two pathetic offenses, let's see how everyone feels after SEA game.

 

[BillsCarnage]

It would set a bad precedent for BA to fire his current DC just to rehire the previous one when there's no reason to. Now, if the Cards D suddenly sunk to the bottom of the league there'd be reason for a switch.

 

[GatorAZ]

I predicted Bowles getting fired within 3 years of becoming a HC. Unless you're Jeff Fisher it's impossible to keep your job with inept offenses.

 

[DVontel]

Bettcher never had the benefit of getting dominant playmaking ILBs like Daryl Washington and Karlos Dansby like Bowles did.

And while the Run D was good in 2014, the Pass D was pretty mediocre.

2015 and this year's D so far >>>>> 2014's.

 

[BurqueCardFan]

No disrespect to Bettcher but you can't expect too much out of the guy given he had virtually no coordinator/coaching experience. He has actually done pretty well given that fact. He has been learning on the job. There is no comparison between his and Bowles experience, first as an NFL player and then as a long time coach. I too would be shocked if they let him go after just two years but the Jets are and have been a dumpster fire for a long time. Likely just a matter of time for him if the management there continues to struggle with personnel.

What you say above is part of the issue. A team like ours that is supposed to be in "win now" mode, doesn't have time for a DC to learn on the job. BA should have found an experienced coordinator. Same goes with Special Teams, long snapper and punter. I know there are some teams like the Pats that always seem to hire from within but what they do is more a product of Bill Bellichek. A team like Denver went out and hired a proven guy like Wade Phillips and it won them a championship.

 

[GuernseyCard]

What you say above is part of the issue. A team like ours that is supposed to be in "win now" mode, doesn't have time for a DC to learn on the job. BA should have found an experienced coordinator. Same goes with Special Teams, long snapper and punter. I know there are some teams like the Pats that always seem to hire from within but what they do is more a product of Bill Bellichek. A team like Denver went out and hired a proven guy like Wade Phillips and it won them a championship.

Bettcher got the job with Bowles approval as he left, of that we can be quite sure.

And while Wade Phillips is a proven coordinator, let's not forget who was doing the rushing from both sides for him and note that they lost their run stuffer and cover ILB in the offseason and Denver is hardly as good.

I've noted some "failures to communicate" problems this season, but I'm not in a position, nor is anyone else, to say that the issue was game planning (scheme) or play calling.

 

[Jetstream Green]

I predicted Bowles getting fired within 3 years of becoming a HC. Unless you're Jeff Fisher it's impossible to keep your job with inept offenses.

Especially in New York... the Jet's also have the worst fans in the NFL, they are the epitome of a stupid fan

 

[BurqueCardFan]

Bettcher got the job with Bowles approval as he left, of that we can be quite sure.

And while Wade Phillips is a proven coordinator, let's not forget who was doing the rushing from both sides for him and note that they lost their run stuffer and cover ILB in the offseason and Denver is hardly as good.

I've noted some "failures to communicate" problems this season, but I'm not in a position, nor is anyone else, to say that the issue was game planning (scheme) or play calling.

"failures to communicate" absolutely fall on coaching. Too many times do I see the guys unsure about who's covering who or where they should be lined up. Waving each other to go to different spots on the field. This all falls under coaching and understanding of scheme and situations. Maybe they are not getting the plays called in fast enough or maybe is lack of game planning or adjustments. Either way, it can be directly attributed to coaching, which I would assume falls to the DC at the end of the day.

 

[cardfaninfl]

Until Bowles has multiple sub .500 seasons, has a melt-down during a press conference, or gets caught with a hot mic on a bus with Billy Bush, he will be a Head Coach somewhere.

 

[GuernseyCard]

"failures to communicate" absolutely fall on coaching. Too many times do I see the guys unsure about who's covering who or where they should be lined up. Waving each other to go to different spots on the field. This all falls under coaching and understanding of scheme and situations. Maybe they are not getting the plays called in fast enough or maybe is lack of game planning or adjustments. Either way, it can be directly attributed to coaching, which I would assume falls to the DC at the end of the day.

Well, last season with Johnson making the calls, we did well. This year there have been issues. It's the same guy calling the play into the guy with the 'dot', so logic would dictate that the failure, if it exists, is in transmission from this player to the others.

In game one, Williams missed the switch from zone to man and gave up the TD that proved the difference. Maybe simply a rookie mistake; maybe a failure by the player making the call adjustment, but certainly not Bettcher's call as the result proved.

 

[Big D]

As long as the Jets can string together at least 3-4 more wins Bowles will not be fired after this season.

If he were to become available, and had no better offers I could see him returning here though. Even in that scenario I don't believe it means the Cards would have to fire or demote Bettcher considering the way teams do things nowadays. They could give Bowles some BS title such as "Jr. Head Coach in charge of Passing Defense" or whatever they decide to call it.

Now would this leave Bettcher feeling like his legs have been taken out from beneath him and not be fully onboard with it? That is a very strong possibility.