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I completely agree.

I think the organization has done some things on the offensive line to coincide with the head coaches philosophy. As well as getting a new FB in the backfield.

BUT it begs the question why we didn't trade Bryant Johnson for some more draft picks, or maybe a pick and a blocking TE.

Quan and Fitz fit right into the power running game. Both are great blockers, and elite WR's.

So really my only question is why Bryant Johnson is on the team, and an elite TE is not.


Most elite TE's are that because of their receiving skills. I doubt that a TE has ever made a pro bowl based on his being a devastating blocker, which is what the Cards need to help out the extremely questionable OL. I think we have enough receiving threats and Pope's catches will be a bonus. Hopefully, he can become a good blocking TE.He definitley has the size for it.
 

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IMO if we could get a good blocker for BJ I would take it, Pope can be the receiver in the 2 TE set.
 

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I completely agree.

I think the organization has done some things on the offensive line to coincide with the head coaches philosophy. As well as getting a new FB in the backfield.

BUT it begs the question why we didn't trade Bryant Johnson for some more draft picks, or maybe a pick and a blocking TE.

Quan and Fitz fit right into the power running game. Both are great blockers, and elite WR's.

So really my only question is why Bryant Johnson is on the team, and an elite TE is not.
i think the reasn why BJ wasn't traded was because he has 1 year left on his contract and most of the teams knew we are not going to re-sign him so they thought to themselfs why bother giving up something when we could him next year as a FA or even as a TC cut if it does happen..we wouldn't get much value if we traded him IMO
 
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But is he better than Fitz or 'Quan? Nope.

I hate to wade into this debate, but this is how I see the Bengals v. Cardinals breakdown working out:

Chad Johnson > Larry Fitzgerald
T.J. Houshmanzadeh < Anquan Boldin
Chris Henry >>>>>>>>> Bryant Johnson

Regardless of whom is throwing to them, on balance the Bengals' WR corps is a little better, especially at #1 and #3. I think that Housh and Q are closer than a lot of people here want to believe, since both are primarily outlet receivers who move the chains for their QBs. Anquan has a half-dozen highlight plays per season more, but Housh scores more TDs.
 

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I hate to wade into this debate, but this is how I see the Bengals v. Cardinals breakdown working out:

Chad Johnson > Larry Fitzgerald
T.J. Houshmanzadeh < Anquan Boldin
Chris Henry >>>>>>>>> Bryant Johnson

Regardless of whom is throwing to them, on balance the Bengals' WR corps is a little better, especially at #1 and #3. I think that Housh and Q are closer than a lot of people here want to believe, since both are primarily outlet receivers who move the chains for their QBs. Anquan has a half-dozen highlight plays per season more, but Housh scores more TDs.

Eh, maybe. I say CJ is better than Fitz (right now) but Fitz has nothing but up to go. I think Anquan is much better than TJ. You have Quan as a #2, and he is on this team, but one can certinaly argue he is a #1 on other teams. TJ? not so much.

I think Henry is 3 x better than BJ and has a hell of a lot more upside (forgetting off the field issues). I agree with the rankings, but you ask me this question in 2 years I might say the Cards are the better trio. Or at least they have the bigger upside.
 

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Eh, maybe. I say CJ is better than Fitz (right now) but Fitz has nothing but up to go. I think Anquan is much better than TJ. You have Quan as a #2, and he is on this team, but one can certinaly argue he is a #1 on other teams. TJ? not so much.

I think Henry is 3 x better than BJ and has a hell of a lot more upside (forgetting off the field issues). I agree with the rankings, but you ask me this question in 2 years I might say the Cards are the better trio. Or at least they have the bigger upside.

I totally agree. I almost put a caveat for "For now" next to the ranking of Fitz and Ocho-cinco, but I didn't think it would be necessary.

Is Q "much" better than Housh? I don't know. I think he's better in the lockerroom and in public and is probably a better teammate, but who's going to help you win more? Anquan get a ton of passes thrown his way. Housh has to fight for his touches because they have an effective running game. I don't think it's close between them, but it's not terribly far. Housh is mentioned among the top 25 or so WRs in the game (probably); Anquan would be in the top 10-15.
 

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I totally agree. I almost put a caveat for "For now" next to the ranking of Fitz and Ocho-cinco, but I didn't think it would be necessary.

Is Q "much" better than Housh? I don't know. I think he's better in the lockerroom and in public and is probably a better teammate, but who's going to help you win more? Anquan get a ton of passes thrown his way. Housh has to fight for his touches because they have an effective running game. I don't think it's close between them, but it's not terribly far. Housh is mentioned among the top 25 or so WRs in the game (probably); Anquan would be in the top 10-15.

Thats fair. I like Housh and would agree Quan is top 10-12 Housh, imo, is probably top 20. The one thing though is that Housh actually benefits from CJ on the field sometimes.

Harkin back to the first, what 6 games of last year. CJ was doubled so much Henry and Housh were having field days. I dont follow the bengals like I do the Cards so this isnt a knock on Housh, but I wouldnt trade Quan for nearly any other reciever due to the things you elluded to above: Lockeroon, heart, desire. In those categories, he is certinaly a stud. Maybe Housh is too, I dunno.
 

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Thats fair. I like Housh and would agree Quan is top 10-12 Housh, imo, is probably top 20. The one thing though is that Housh actually benefits from CJ on the field sometimes.

Harkin back to the first, what 6 games of last year. CJ was doubled so much Henry and Housh were having field days. I dont follow the bengals like I do the Cards so this isnt a knock on Housh, but I wouldnt trade Quan for nearly any other reciever due to the things you elluded to above: Lockeroon, heart, desire. In those categories, he is certinaly a stud. Maybe Housh is too, I dunno.

I follow the Bengals very closely and agree with what you said. TJ is all heart--maybe too much--he puts so much effort into every play that he has to be wearing his body down ahead of schedule. He does his part and expects other guys to be as intense as he is.
 

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Thats fair. I like Housh and would agree Quan is top 10-12 Housh, imo, is probably top 20. The one thing though is that Housh actually benefits from CJ on the field sometimes.

Harkin back to the first, what 6 games of last year. CJ was doubled so much Henry and Housh were having field days. I dont follow the bengals like I do the Cards so this isnt a knock on Housh, but I wouldnt trade Quan for nearly any other reciever due to the things you elluded to above: Lockeroon, heart, desire. In those categories, he is certinaly a stud. Maybe Housh is too, I dunno.

Anquan benefits from having Fitz on the field sometimes, too. Make no mistake about it.

I agree with you totally about Quan. I think that there might be 5 WRs in the entire NFL that I would trade Quan for because he's so great in some of those intangibles.
 

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Anquan benefits from having Fitz on the field sometimes, too. Make no mistake about it.

I agree with you totally about Quan. I think that there might be 5 WRs in the entire NFL that I would trade Quan for because he's so great in some of those intangibles.


You could not get me to trade Quan for any player in the nfl.
 

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All hogwash. You couldnt tell me that if our WR's had the QB's that those guys have throwing to them over the last three year that they wouldnt be # 1 on the list by far. Its arguable that they arent #1 anyway.

What our guys do with the QB carousel weve had here, and the consistency they show with what they have throwing them the ball is a great testament to just how good they really are.
 

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All hogwash. You couldnt tell me that if our WR's had the QB's that those guys have throwing to them over the last three year that they wouldnt be # 1 on the list by far. Its arguable that they arent #1 anyway.

What our guys do with the QB carousel weve had here, and the consistency they show with what they have throwing them the ball is a great testament to just how good they really are.

True, not to mention the lack of a running game to open the pass up. If we had the o-lines those teams have one could argue that we would be number 1.
 

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Anquan benefits from having Fitz on the field sometimes, too. Make no mistake about it.

I don't think anyone would, but Mr. Boldin is capable of standing on his own two legs. His rookie season for example.

Having a great player like Mr. Fitzgerald can only help. A facsimile of offensive balance is the only reason these two men haven't put up numbers guadier Dennis Miller's monologues.
 

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I don't think anyone would, but Mr. Boldin is capable of standing on his own two legs. His rookie season for example.

And to work the other side of my opinion, Larry is also capable of being a stand alone product on one of the numerous occassions that Anquan is out because of an injury.
 

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You could not get me to trade Quan for any player in the nfl.

I totally understand that. As I said, my list is really short: Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Lee Evans (he made The Leap last season), Reggie Wayne (despite being a Pro Bowler, one of the most underrated WRs in the NFL), and maybe Andre Johnson.
 

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I could see chad and steve MAYBE but the other 2? no way.

Ill still take boldin = )
 

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I totally understand that. As I said, my list is really short: Chad Johnson, Steve Smith, Lee Evans (he made The Leap last season), Reggie Wayne (despite being a Pro Bowler, one of the most underrated WRs in the NFL), and maybe Andre Johnson.

Gasp. Choke. I'm a lot more in line with K9's opinion here than most others.

My list would be Steve Smith, Chad Johnson, Marvin Harrison, Torry Holt. Then maybe Andre Johnson (I thought he'd be a bust). Speed kills. Speed, guts, hands and heart, all in one trump other combinations.

Quan and Fitz would probably be between 8 to 12 on my list.
 
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What about the Rattlers they have awsome wrs and they could win a ton of games in the nfl alone. I bet if the Rattlers matched up against say the Steelers they would win 48-20
 

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What about the Rattlers they have awsome wrs and they could win a ton of games in the nfl alone. I bet if the Rattlers matched up against say the Steelers they would win 48-20

for the love of God - moderators, you've got to do something about this guy - anyone in the suns forum can attest to the fact that everyone of his posts is just beyond pointless... steve kerr shoudl play for the suns... he could average 30 points, we shoudl get Kobe for a pile of burnt roaches... etc. etc.
 
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and how is that far from reality cheese the rattlers have won a ton of arena bowls I dare you to try and say why the rattlers couldnt win in the nfl.
 

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