Trade up Mock

[Shane]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...rade-up-to-take-fourth-quarterback-in-top-10/

Don't like the player but lien the idea if its for Mayfield...

 

[oaken1]

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft...rade-up-to-take-fourth-quarterback-in-top-10/

Don't like the player but lien the idea if its for Mayfield...

yeah... in that draft I would almost prefer to just stand pat and draft Jackson at 15...its a bit high for him maybe,.. but its better than trading up for allen IMO...
but the dude did accept coaching pretty well at the senior bowl and it showed on the field.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I like Allen over Mayfield.

 

[Shane]

I like Allen over Mayfield.

 

[POISON]

I think they could stand pat at 15 and get Rudolph (probably ) or Jackson. I like Allen but his accuracy isn't great.

 

[GatorAZ]

No standing pat. Buffalo has two 1st Rd picks and will jump is.

 

[AZCrazy]

Guess the quarterback: Pre Draft Analysis from recent years:

A) is a good-sized quarterback with a major league arm. The problem is that he does not know how to use his arm to his advantage. He tends to rely on arm strength alone, when throwing the ball and does not do a good job of getting his feet set under him when throwing from the pocket. He can throw on the move, but his accuracy suffers a lot. Does not always set his feet when he throws, which results in a lot of errant passes. Overconfident in his arm strength and forces too many throws.

B) has a very lively arm and can drive the ball from anywhere on the field off his back foot. When he is having a good game, he can thread the needle and put the ball on a receiver in stride 65 yards down the field. He has been inaccurate at times and will take some time to develop. He will throw an NFL pass one play, then make a bad decision that puts his team in trouble.

C) Prototype frame for pocket passer. Sturdy base allows him to shake off sacks and extend plays. Rare arm strength and overall arm talent. Has arm strength and mobility to create explosive plays when play goes off-schedule, but never had completion rate higher than 56 percent in either season as a starter. Accuracy diminishes greatly when he's forced to move his feet. May have too much hero in his blood.

D) Outstanding size, stature and strength -- towers over the line, has natural throwing lanes from the pocket and is able to make plays in the grasp. Athletic -- can climb the pocket, escape and run for the sticks. Uneven performance. Inconsistent footwork and mechanics. Shoddy ball placement. Still developing touch and deep-ball accuracy.










A) John Skelton
B) Ryan Lindley
C) Josh Allen
D) Logan Thomas

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

Josh Allen, QB, Wyoming. Cardinals GM Steve Keim was in attendance to watch Allen at the Famous Idaho Potato Bowl, and the Wyoming quarterback's stock is on the rise after an excellent week in Mobile. Moving up to draft Allen will obviously be based more on what he does during the predraft process rather than the results on the field for Wyoming, but if three QBs come off the board in the top six, there's going to be someone looking to trade up for the remaining top signal-caller. Why not Arizona?

That line alone should tell you everything; Game tape is far more valuable than pre-draft workouts. He did have a great Senior Bowl, but still a ton of concerns about his accuracy.

 

[Frank The Fixer]

So Cousins goes to Buffalo.

 

[Capital Card]

Problem with this mock is that there is no way the Giants or Cleveland don't take a QB.

I think 4 QB's will be gone by 10 this year.

 

[juza76]

We will get one between lamar jackson or mason rudolph
But im.intrigued by Lauletta in the 2nd round, this guy has quick release and can hit a receiver in a tiny window

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I like Allen over Mayfield.

No, Mayfield.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I think they could stand pat at 15 and get Rudolph (probably ) or Jackson. I like Allen but his accuracy isn't great.

A lot of good that did for us last year...

 

[WildBB]

He'll be under 60% completion average and could be INT prone at the next level.

They could stay put and still land him or Rudolph. Not a big gap between the two.

 

[cardncubfan]

We will get one between lamar jackson or mason rudolph
But im.intrigued by Lauletta in the 2nd round, this can guy has quick release and can hit a receiver in a tiny window

I would be fine going with an OL in the 1st & Lauletta in the 2nd. Of course we would still need to sign a vet. I would even draft another QB in rd 4 or 5. Going to need at least 3 for camp.

 

[BillsCarnage]

Meh, who cares until Cousins lands and the combine happens.

 

[Buckybird]

I like Allen over Mayfield.

Shocker
Of course you do Jim, no way a noodle armed, midget QB who played in a gimmick offense & terrible conference
can make it in the NFL

That line alone should tell you everything; Game tape is far more valuable than pre-draft workouts. He did have a great Senior Bowl, but still a ton of concerns about his accuracy.

Amen

Skelton
Paxton Lynch
Blogan Thomas
Kelley Stouffer
Ryan Blindley
Etc
Etc
Etc

Agree with you lol

 

[outcent13]

Guess the quarterback: Pre Draft Analysis from recent years:

A) is a good-sized quarterback with a major league arm. The problem is that he does not know how to use his arm to his advantage. He tends to rely on arm strength alone, when throwing the ball and does not do a good job of getting his feet set under him when throwing from the pocket. He can throw on the move, but his accuracy suffers a lot. Does not always set his feet when he throws, which results in a lot of errant passes. Overconfident in his arm strength and forces too many throws.

B) has a very lively arm and can drive the ball from anywhere on the field off his back foot. When he is having a good game, he can thread the needle and put the ball on a receiver in stride 65 yards down the field. He has been inaccurate at times and will take some time to develop. He will throw an NFL pass one play, then make a bad decision that puts his team in trouble.

C) Prototype frame for pocket passer. Sturdy base allows him to shake off sacks and extend plays. Rare arm strength and overall arm talent. Has arm strength and mobility to create explosive plays when play goes off-schedule, but never had completion rate higher than 56 percent in either season as a starter. Accuracy diminishes greatly when he's forced to move his feet. May have too much hero in his blood.

D) Outstanding size, stature and strength -- towers over the line, has natural throwing lanes from the pocket and is able to make plays in the grasp. Athletic -- can climb the pocket, escape and run for the sticks. Uneven performance. Inconsistent footwork and mechanics. Shoddy ball placement. Still developing touch and deep-ball accuracy.










A) John Skelton
B) Ryan Lindley
C) Josh Allen
D) Logan Thomas

Poor build, Skinny, Lacks great physical stature and strength, Lacks mobility and ability to avoid the rush, Lacks a really strong arm, Can’t drive the ball downfield, Does not throw a really tight spiral, System-type player who can get exposed if forced to ad lib, Gets knocked down easily.


A) Tom Brady





I agree you cant make a decision based on physical traits alone but I do feel like you have to evaluate players on an individual basis more than ever when it comes to a franchise QB. The Redskins are a prime example when they drafted Cousins and RG3 in the same draft. Two different dudes with different skill sets but one has obviously outperformed the other. The physical attributes and game film can only be a starting point in the evaluation.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I put little credance in the criticism of Josh Allen's lack of accuracy in college. There were games where is receivers dropped 5 catchable passes. Do you know what that will do to your percentage? Not to mention having no receiver who can separate at all. Allen's accuracy is much better than his stats project. That is a good example of stats being misleading to the degree that everyone hears a stat and builds a mountain, rather than a molehill, out of it. This kid is a stud, very teachable, likable, just a really great kid with a Bret Favre arm. So what if his percentage in the pros is a couple points below Rosen or whoever, or he throws an absolutely crazy interception occassionally. Go back and look at Favre, his early years, and through his whole career.

I think people who pass on Allen are making a huge mistake. I hope the kid goes to a team with an excellent QB coach and they give him a year to work out any glitches they see in his delivery, while he improves his accuracy a bit. And a bit is all I feel he will need. Hell, I am 'praying' the Cards get a crack at him. It would be my dream come true for the year. I would be drooling watching him throw those lazers 60 yards down the field. If not him, I am rooting for Rudolph at pick 15, or would be satisfied if we give Mike White a shot in the 2nd or 3rd, or even Lauletta in the late rounds.

 

[Southpaw]

Guess the quarterback: Pre Draft Analysis from recent years:

A) is a good-sized quarterback with a major league arm. The problem is that he does not know how to use his arm to his advantage. He tends to rely on arm strength alone, when throwing the ball and does not do a good job of getting his feet set under him when throwing from the pocket. He can throw on the move, but his accuracy suffers a lot. Does not always set his feet when he throws, which results in a lot of errant passes. Overconfident in his arm strength and forces too many throws.

B) has a very lively arm and can drive the ball from anywhere on the field off his back foot. When he is having a good game, he can thread the needle and put the ball on a receiver in stride 65 yards down the field. He has been inaccurate at times and will take some time to develop. He will throw an NFL pass one play, then make a bad decision that puts his team in trouble.

C) Prototype frame for pocket passer. Sturdy base allows him to shake off sacks and extend plays. Rare arm strength and overall arm talent. Has arm strength and mobility to create explosive plays when play goes off-schedule, but never had completion rate higher than 56 percent in either season as a starter. Accuracy diminishes greatly when he's forced to move his feet. May have too much hero in his blood.

D) Outstanding size, stature and strength -- towers over the line, has natural throwing lanes from the pocket and is able to make plays in the grasp. Athletic -- can climb the pocket, escape and run for the sticks. Uneven performance. Inconsistent footwork and mechanics. Shoddy ball placement. Still developing touch and deep-ball accuracy.










A) John Skelton
B) Ryan Lindley
C) Josh Allen
D) Logan Thomas

 

[Southpaw]

Guess the quarterback: Pre Draft Analysis from recent years:

A) is a good-sized quarterback with a major league arm. The problem is that he does not know how to use his arm to his advantage. He tends to rely on arm strength alone, when throwing the ball and does not do a good job of getting his feet set under him when throwing from the pocket. He can throw on the move, but his accuracy suffers a lot. Does not always set his feet when he throws, which results in a lot of errant passes. Overconfident in his arm strength and forces too many throws.

B) has a very lively arm and can drive the ball from anywhere on the field off his back foot. When he is having a good game, he can thread the needle and put the ball on a receiver in stride 65 yards down the field. He has been inaccurate at times and will take some time to develop. He will throw an NFL pass one play, then make a bad decision that puts his team in trouble.

C) Prototype frame for pocket passer. Sturdy base allows him to shake off sacks and extend plays. Rare arm strength and overall arm talent. Has arm strength and mobility to create explosive plays when play goes off-schedule, but never had completion rate higher than 56 percent in either season as a starter. Accuracy diminishes greatly when he's forced to move his feet. May have too much hero in his blood.

D) Outstanding size, stature and strength -- towers over the line, has natural throwing lanes from the pocket and is able to make plays in the grasp. Athletic -- can climb the pocket, escape and run for the sticks. Uneven performance. Inconsistent footwork and mechanics. Shoddy ball placement. Still developing touch and deep-ball accuracy.










A) John Skelton
B) Ryan Lindley
C) Josh Allen
D) Logan Thomas

A , B & D were never considered 1st round candidates which makes this comparison ludicrous IMNSHO.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

I put little credance in the criticism of Josh Allen's lack of accuracy in college. There were games where is receivers dropped 5 catchable passes. Do you know what that will do to your percentage? Not to mention having no receiver who can separate at all. Allen's accuracy is much better than his stats project. That is a good example of stats being misleading to the degree that everyone hears a stat and builds a mountain, rather than a molehill, out of it. This kid is a stud, very teachable, likable, just a really great kid with a Bret Favre arm. So what if his percentage in the pros is a couple points below Rosen or whoever, or he throws an absolutely crazy interception occassionally. Go back and look at Favre, his early years, and through his whole career.

I think people who pass on Allen are making a huge mistake. I hope the kid goes to a team with an excellent QB coach and they give him a year to work out any glitches they see in his delivery, while he improves his accuracy a bit. And a bit is all I feel he will need. Hell, I am 'praying' the Cards get a crack at him. It would be my dream come true for the year. I would be drooling watching him throw those lazers 60 yards down the field. If not him, I am rooting for Rudolph at pick 15, or would be satisfied if we give Mike White a shot in the 2nd or 3rd, or even Lauletta in the late rounds.

I would agree with you, but:

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Sub 60% college guys rarely do good in the NFL. The ratio is practically 1/100

 

[juza76]

I would agree with you, but:

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Sub 60% college guys rare6%ly do good in the NFL. The ratio is practically 1/100

Mayfield with better cast could be around 80% of completed passes
And jackson who is just slightly under 60% with the group of receiver of darnold would have his same numbers

Allen had a decent group of wr's and his percentage was just around 56%

 

[WisconsinCard]

I just wish they would put what they had to give up to get to 10? I would be interested to see what they think Josh Allen is worth giving up to get. I wouldn't hate it if they only gave up third this year and a second next year.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I would agree with you, but:

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Sub 60% college guys rarely do good in the NFL. The ratio is practically 1/100

Sorry, but I question those percentages. Sounds like cake news of poor research to me.