Tramaine Brock getting released

[dreamcastrocks]

My guess is something happened in the locker room after this loss, he reacted, and now is out of a job.

 

[Garthshort]

PaCardsFan, if we get a top five pick, who or what position do we target in round one?

 

[ARZCardinals]

My guess is something happened in the locker room after this loss, he reacted, and now is out of a job.

agreed

the entire D sucked ...so blaming him for assignments is an overreaction

 

[Shaggy]

I bet he wanted to be released..

 

[dreamcastrocks]

I bet he wanted to be released..

Wouldn't surprise me. I think he will be claimed as well.

 

[TJ]

MOAR DEAD MONEY!!!!

 

[BigRedRage]

Tramaine Brock is a Vance Joseph guy. Vance has gone to him when he has needed a player in the secondary who knows his scheme and can execute it. Keim cutting Brock is taking away one of the more knowledgeable players in the secondary. When you have a young, inexperienced secondary that doesn't know what it is doing, you don't cut one of the few players who actually fits in the scheme unless you don't really care about making the defense better. Keim is engineering and ensuring a dumpster fire defense over the rest of the year to shift blame and attention from himself to Vance. This all in hopes that firing Vance will give people their pound of flesh and keep him safe.

I'm pretty sure Vance has already shown his defense is a dumpster fire way before this happened.

 

[PACardsFan]

PaCardsFan, if we get a top five pick, who or what position do we target in round one?

BPA with the exception of QB. We have so many holes on D, that it would be hard to bypass a D-Lineman or LB. But, if the best WR in the country fell to us, I wouldn't hesitate to pull the trigger.

 

[swagron]

Some guy on here said yesterday that Brock was an Pro Bowler - some Pro Bowler

 

[Rohinaz]

i wonder if this was related to the chance to pick up an extra compensatory draft pick. dunno.
seems strange at this point

 

[Chopper0080]

i wonder if this was related to the chance to pick up an extra compensatory draft pick. dunno.
seems strange at this point

It is not strange if you are a GM whose job is being questioned and you think yuo can divert the attention to the DC.

 

[TJ]

New dead money figure:

$45,532,322

WTG, Steve Keim

 

[football karma]

New dead money figure:

$45,532,322

WTG, Steve Keim

i have to believe that MB is thinking to himself: $45mm of my money for guys not on the team.

the crazy thing is: we aren't even into 2020, an its looking likely that between Philon, David Johnson and Terrel Suggs, they will have $20mm in dead money for next year.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Brock sucks! With the Bengals, Skins, and Dolphins winning, our pick is getting better by the week. Keep cutting the old farts, give the young guys playing time, and maybe we'll get another top 5 pick. Merry Christmas!!!

Only young guys to play are Chris Jones & Kevin Peterson. Peterson has already played a ton in the absence of Brock. Chris Jones just can't cut it.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

i have to believe that MB is thinking to himself: $45mm of my money for guys not on the team.

the crazy thing is: we aren't even into 2020, an its looking likely that between Philon, David Johnson and Terrel Suggs, they will have $20mm in dead money for next year.

Suggs shouldn't be figured into that, his contract is up after this season.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Keim: Serial *******.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Keim is such a snake. I see what he is doing here and no wonder players don't trust him.

Was Brock about to hit an inventive?

 

[Dayman]

In the game thread yesterday, I said that Brock shouldn't be a rotation player on an NFL team at this point in his career, so I understand the move from a talent perspective.

The problem is that there isn't anyone more talented to take his place. We don't have any former mid-round picks who have been waiting for an opportunity. We have a couple of fringe roster guys who have already proven they don't deserve more snaps. Chris Jones went from starter to released already this year. It's not like we don't know what kind of player he is. Brock is bad, but the players behind him are worse.

 

[kerouac9]

Suggs shouldn't be figured into that, his contract is up after this season.

Suggs has dead money built into his deal. A second year automatically voids and carries dead money into 2020.

 

[iLLmatiC]

New dead money figure:

$45,532,322

WTG, Steve Keim

Time to get rid of Keim

 

[Chopper0080]

Was Brock about to hit an inventive?

Yes, knowing what the hell he is doing in this scheme. You think Keim is happy that Reddick and Suggs have taken a backseat to Cassius Marsh and Joe Walker? Again, I'm not shocked if Vance wanted to bench Peterson and so Keim cut Brock to prevent it.

 

[Chopper0080]

In the game thread yesterday, I said that Brock shouldn't be a rotation player on an NFL team at this point in his career, so I understand the move from a talent perspective.

The problem is that there isn't anyone more talented to take his place. We don't have any former mid-round picks who have been waiting for an opportunity. We have a couple of fringe roster guys who have already proven they don't deserve more snaps. Chris Jones went from starter to released already this year. It's not like we don't know what kind of player he is. Brock is bad, but the players behind him are worse.

On a defensive secondary where people don't know where the they are supposed to be, cutting one of the few guys that does doesn't make sense from a competitive standpoint.

The bigger issue in my mind is that Chandler Jones seems to be coasting. If that is the case, it probably means Vance has lost the confidence of the defensive players.

 

[Ronin]

He wasn’t on waivers for very long. Titans claimed him.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Suggs has dead money built into his deal. A second year automatically voids and carries dead money into 2020.

That sounds like a stupid deal to make by SK. He should only be on a 1 yr prove it deal, considering his age. I'm not a contract guru but there should be no money paid to him in 2020 imo.

 

[wa52lz]

That sounds like a stupid deal to make by SK. He should only be on a 1 yr prove it deal, considering his age. I'm not a contract guru but there should be no money paid to him in 2020 imo.

There is no money being paid next year to him, just $2 million of the bonus was spread to next year's cap. Deal was 1yr $7 million, $5 million counted this year and $2 next. I'm sure it was done this way to give more flexibility this season

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