Tuesday Morning Suns Thoughts

[elindholm]

It does if your opinion is that he is overpaid combined with him not shooting as well.

Besides players on their rookie contracts, which comparable players are out-performing him for the salary? Cleveland's Donyell Marshall, for example, is a similar kind of player who makes the same money as Thomas and is producing far less.

The guys is making more money for shooting worse.

More money than what? His salary last season was eight figures. The Suns got him for cheap because of the buyout/waiver thing, but he was never a minimum-contract player.

There were questions about his work ethic in practice this year with the Clips. His reputation has followed him.

There's no question that he is seriously flawed. The question is how you evaluate the combination of strengths and weaknesses -- both of which he has in abundance. To me, he's good value for a MLE player, and the numbers bear that out. It doesn't matter how good he "could" be; it only matters how good he is. And he's okay, not great, just okay.

He is not worth the salary he is getting paid

I challenge you to find three similar players who are outperfoming him for about the same money, rookie contracts excluded. You won't be able to. Let's define "similar" to mean someone who is primarily a scorer and is listed at 6' 9" or taller.

 

[CaptainInsano]

It does if your opinion is that he is overpaid combined with him not shooting as well. The guys is making more money for shooting worse. We probably would have gotten the same thing. There were questions about his work ethic in practice this year with the Clips. His reputation has followed him. So we would not have gotten the same player as last year either IMO. He is not worth the salary he is getting paid and I am glad we didn't resign the guy as good as he played.

With the way things are going right now it is different though.

Last year he was the sparkplug, eddie house dropped off later in the season and disappeared during the playoffs. Tim Thomas, on the other hand, came in and started on fire.

So with how we are slumping right now, ESPECIALLY with diaw out there wasting the forward spot, we could have really instead used a player like Tim there for some of the rebounds where we are struggling and a hot hand shooting the 3.

He is on the clips right now and they are sinking god knows why but it is NOT because of him. He is playing on a sinking team right now and STILL putting up good numbers.

If he was back here in the suns system I would bet things would be a lot different.

The thing that clinches it for me though is if we took that 4 million from worthless banks and instead stacked another 2 mil on it and were giving it to Tim Thomas we would be doing one hell of a lot better money and performance wise.

Flat out mistakes by the suns (Overpaying diaw, 2 picks, and Thomas leaving) in the horrible offseason that might cost us BIGTIME unless our team can somehow stop dragging its feet out there.

 

[AZBALLER]

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Not sure I want KG anymore. I was suggesting a while back this very same trade AZballer is suggesting but Barbosa is looking more and more like a stud and he's sooo young and sooo cheap.

Huh?

"Lastly, I'd love to get Garnett, as I think a change of scenery would help him to elevate his game and make us better...But I don't want to give up both Marion, Barbosa and picks to get him.

For once I hope we just use the draft to get better, unless we get a sweet deal for Garnett. Maybe a 3 team trade?"

Are you thinking of someone else? Because that's what I wrote...