Turning the Page on #7: Backup QBs I'd Like

[kerouac9]

For better or for worse, I can't imagine #7 being on the roster opening day. That said, it'd be silliness to go into the season with Max Hall and/or John Skelton on the roster, either. I think that the Max Hall story is way overplayed, and if he were from Missoula, MT, no one here would care about him.

So I'm asking myself who might be good backups that I'd like to see come in. I've got a list--here's the order of the list that it's in:

1. Kellen Clemens. He's currently the #3 in New York behind Sanchez and Brunell. You'd have to trade for him, but I love the idea of a Reggie Wells-Clemens trade.

2. Sage Rosenfels. Minnesota drafted Joe Webb, but they don't have anything invested in him. Rosenfels has starting experience and he's not terrible.

3. The loser of the Byron Leftwich/Dennis Dixon QB competition. This isn't going to happen, but the Steelers have 3 QBs who can start in the NFL. Ben R. is going to go on the suspended list, though, so the Steelers should carry Leftwich, Dixon, and Batch into the regular season. Leftwich still has excellent intangibles.

4. Tyler Thigpen. The Dolphins might still have too much invested in Pat White to pull the plug on him, but they also have Henne and Pennington on the roster. There's a numbers game there. Thigpen is like a good Max Hall.

 

[Vermont Maverick]

That's a good list. I like Rosenfels.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

People that wanted him could still get Leftwich.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

Given that I'd expect the backup to be a starter in the not too distant: Sage Rosenfels

 

[TheHopToad]

I'd like to see what it would take to get Matt Flynn from Green Bay. Rodgers has that job locked up for the next decade at least, but Flynn is quickly developing into a NFL starting quality QB.

Something to think about.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Matt flynn is not a bad idea...

 

[BW52]

What the Hell.Why not go with the kids as backups anyway? With a overpaid defense who can`t make crucial stops and a inconsistent O_Line play and a QB who will throw interceptions like rain......................why worry about a veteran backup?

 

[kerouac9]

I'd like to see what it would take to get Matt Flynn from Green Bay. Rodgers has that job locked up for the next decade at least, but Flynn is quickly developing into a NFL starting quality QB.

Something to think about.

I don't know about developing into an NFL starting quality QB. I think he's limited in the same way that #7 and Hall are: he just doesn't have the arm strength. If he goes to another West Coast system he probably could develop, but if we're going to run a vertical play-action offense, I'm not sure I'd go with him.

The Packers actually only have 3 QBs on their roster right now. They just got Graham Harrell from Texas Tech. Matt Flynn could eventually become the next Jake Delhomme, though.

I kind of desperately want the Cards to find a way to acquire John David Booty from Houston because I want to see the headline "CARDS MAKE A **********."

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Outside the box, but so crazy, it might work.

http://sports.espn.go.com/extra/ufl/news/story?id=5519159

Walks like a duck, talks like a duck...but he's been very effective the last couple years.

 

[kerouac9]

On the free agent front, Patrick Ramsey is still sitting by the phone waiting for a call. Also, Brian St. Pierre could always use some work.

 

[BW52]

On the free agent front, Patrick Ramsey is still sitting by the phone waiting for a call. Also, Brian St. Pierre could always use some work.

Don`t get Mitch started on that crap again.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Don`t get Mitch started on that crap again.

The constant Mitch bashing on this site gets really tiresome.

 

[BW52]

The constant Mitch bashing on this site gets really tiresome.

Not meant to be Mitch bashing..............It means the BSP public relations firm routine got real damn tiresome also.

 

[ASUCHRIS]

Not meant to be Mitch bashing..............It means the BSP public relations firm routine got real damn tiresome also.

Ha, that's exactly what it's meant to be, just like all the other snide comments about BSP. That was years ago. Let it go man, you'll feel much better.

 

[Crazy Canuck]

The constant Mitch bashing on this site gets really tiresome.

Well, the "Mitch and Mitchettes" fawning society could make one puke at times.

 

[az jam]

I like Tyler Thigpen, he did well leading the KC Chiefs offense several years ago.

 

[MadCardDisease]

For better or for worse, I can't imagine #7 being on the roster opening day. That said, it'd be silliness to go into the season with Max Hall and/or John Skelton on the roster, either. I think that the Max Hall story is way overplayed, and if he were from Missoula, MT, no one here would care about him.

So I'm asking myself who might be good backups that I'd like to see come in. I've got a list--here's the order of the list that it's in:

1. Kellen Clemens. He's currently the #3 in New York behind Sanchez and Brunell. You'd have to trade for him, but I love the idea of a Reggie Wells-Clemens trade.

2. Sage Rosenfels. Minnesota drafted Joe Webb, but they don't have anything invested in him. Rosenfels has starting experience and he's not terrible.

3. The loser of the Byron Leftwich/Dennis Dixon QB competition. This isn't going to happen, but the Steelers have 3 QBs who can start in the NFL. Ben R. is going to go on the suspended list, though, so the Steelers should carry Leftwich, Dixon, and Batch into the regular season. Leftwich still has excellent intangibles.

4. Tyler Thigpen. The Dolphins might still have too much invested in Pat White to pull the plug on him, but they also have Henne and Pennington on the roster. There's a numbers game there. Thigpen is like a good Max Hall.

The only one I would bring in is Batch who is already familar with Whisenhunts system. Assuming that the Steelers let Batch go. Otherwise I say go with Hall and Skelton as the backups.

 

[BW52]

Ha, that's exactly what it's meant to be, just like all the other snide comments about BSP. That was years ago. Let it go man, you'll feel much better.

You don`t like it.Don`t read it.I like Mitchs essays ................i just think he pulls some stuff out of thin air.That said don`t try and be the posting police.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Well, the "Mitch and Mitchettes" fawning society could make one puke at times.

yeah, but you could probably say the same of EVERYONE here though.

and who the hell are the Mitchettes? Dude usually gets no credit from anyone except for how well thought-out-well-worded his essays are.

 

[kerouac9]

The only one I would bring in is Batch who is already familar with Whisenhunts system. Assuming that the Steelers let Batch go. Otherwise I say go with Hall and Skelton as the backups.

I'm not sure Batch would come. He's from Pittsburgh, signed a sweetheart deal to stay home and end his career there. He's kind of a mascot for the team. Also, I think he's 63 years old.

Denis Dixon is going to be a starter in this league. He might be like a Kordell Stewart who can actually throw the football. There are whispers that the Steelers won't start him because he's going to be an RFA next offseason and they don't want to show him to the league if Ben R. screws up again.

Whis was only OC in Pittsburgh for two years; it's not like Mike Holmgren bringing Matt Hasselback to Seattle with him. Considering how conservative Whis has gotten, a lot of the offensive creativity in Pittsburgh may have been more the influence of Bill Cowher than anyone else. There's a long line of Steeler OCs who've gone on to head coaching gigs and promptly loss their stomach for gadget plays.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

2. Sage Rosenfels. Minnesota drafted Joe Webb, but they don't have anything invested in him. Rosenfels has starting experience and he's not terrible.


I'm pretty sure Webb was drafted as a WR. Plus, i don't really want any part of Rosenfels but I really don't want any part of DA either. A good guy to hold the backup position, if he gets cut, and I don't really like either , is Troy Smith.

 

[Treefiddy]

None of the names mentioned so far give me hope for a winning team. If DA goes down, our season is over anyway, so at that point let's just get our rookies some playing time so we can see if they can be the real deal in the future. I think one of the reasons we're in this situation right now is because we want both rookies, but don't want to hold 4 QBs. Signing another QB doesn't fix that situation at all.

 

[cardsfanmd]

I've always thought Whiz would like Rosenfels. He's like a homeless man's Warner w/ his ability and anxiousness to air it out.

I really like any of those options but, at this point, I dont think Whiz wants to cut Skelton, Hall or keep 4 QBs.

 

[kerouac9]

2. Sage Rosenfels. Minnesota drafted Joe Webb, but they don't have anything invested in him. Rosenfels has starting experience and he's not terrible.


I'm pretty sure Webb was drafted as a WR. Plus, i don't really want any part of Rosenfels but I really don't want any part of DA either. A good guy to hold the backup position, if he gets cut, and I don't really like either , is Troy Smith.

Webb's still listed at QB on the Vikings' online roster: http://www.vikings.com/team/roster.html

Troy Smith is an interesting name. I know that he's sad in Baltimore, but he's another little guy. Is he a huge upgrade over Max Hall?

None of the names mentioned so far give me hope for a winning team. If DA goes down, our season is over anyway, so at that point let's just get our rookies some playing time so we can see if they can be the real deal in the future. I think one of the reasons we're in this situation right now is because we want both rookies, but don't want to hold 4 QBs. Signing another QB doesn't fix that situation at all.

Really? If you don't think that DA is good, then why couldn't another experienced, big-armed QB like Byron Leftwich step in for him? Anderson is practically a white Byron Leftwich with less leadership ability but a faster release.

I've always thought Whiz would like Rosenfels. He's like a homeless man's Warner w/ his ability and anxiousness to air it out.

I really like any of those options but, at this point, I dont think Whiz wants to cut Skelton, Hall or keep 4 QBs.

I don't get the Hall love. Whis seems complimentary about Hall when he's asked about him, but I don't see him jumping out of his skin to compliment Max Hall. Max Hall is a fairly replaceable commodity, IMO. People here want to believe that he's a larval Drew Brees, but there's a reason that Drew Brees was a second-round pick and Max Hall went undrafted in a pretty underwhelming quarterback draft class.

 

[Treefiddy]

Really? If you don't think that DA is good, then why couldn't another experienced, big-armed QB like Byron Leftwich step in for him? Anderson is practically a white Byron Leftwich with less leadership ability but a faster release.

I don't have a lot of hope for Anderson either, but I'm willing to wait it out and hope for the best. If Anderson sucks, then what benefit would Leftwich give us if he's practically a black Derek Anderson with more leadership but a slower release?

Basically, as much as I don't trust Anderson, I wouldn't trust any of the other guys mentioned even more, and would rather just get our rookies some playing time.

I guess it depends on what kind of offense we roll out with when it matters. You can plug in a serviceable backup and still do well with a team like the Titans where you simply need to manage the game, but I think the reason we're going with Anderson is because we expect to make things happen through the air.

We can throw out names like Rosenfels, Troy Smith, Thigpen, and Dennis Dixon, but despite being 'veterans', they still don't have a ton of play time in the NFL. I would favor both Hall and Skelton over any of those guys simply because they've had a full off-season to work with our players and our playbook.