Uh Uh....Bulls!

[King A]

I was just checking the standings and how many games we're in front of Sacramento and San Antonio, and what do I see looking to the eastern conference:

Cavs at 2 but not that that is so special,

The Bulls are 8th, and this after their lousy start

Since I can't watch any of their games, would anyone tell me, if their playing any better than the 22nd November game vs. the suns, since I've seen that game?
Seems like Skiles didn't to too shabby.

bad luck though the pick will probably be lower than expected

 

[PDXChris]

Being a Bulls (I am not ashamed to say that anymore)fans and having watched a few games on WGN. They are playing great defense now and I think it just took awhile for allthe players to buy into it. Gordon and Deng are going to be studs. Deng is going to look like a bargin if they make the playoffs and with the way they are playing to could get anywhere form the 4 to 8th seeds IMO. Curry still turns the ball over a lot but is getting better. Captain Kirk is going to lead that team for a long time. THe scary part is they use a 8 man rotation mainly unless they win big which has been happening latley. WIth those 8, 4 of them are rookies, and one is a second year player, 2 are Chandler and Curry, which means that 7 of the 8 maoin palyers are under 23. If they keep that core together could could be contenders in 2 years.

 

[Joe Mama]

I watched their game last night against Philadelphia. Chandler on defense and Curry on offense are really giving that team and the interior presence on both ends of the court. Ben Gordon, Kirk Heinrich, and Luol Deng are playing very well on the perimeter. Even though it was Ben Gordon who caught fire last night I think it is Heinrich who is clearly the stud of that that court. all of those guys do a good job of feeding the ball into the big guys in the middle as well. They also have Antonio Davis and Othella Harrington coming off the bench to help up front.

Barring injuries it's probably safe to assume that the lottery pick is gone. I imagine the Suns will be receiving a pic somewhere in the 17-20 range. I guess we just have to remember that the Suns would have been unable to sign Quentin Richardson without that trade of the draft pick. At this point I only wish that they would have taken Ariza instead of Jackson Vroman with their second-round draft pick.

Joe Mama

 

[coloradosun]

At this point the Bulls are in the playoffs. The top point guards and big men will probably be off the board. The Suns may be able to trade up by offering their pick and GS second rounder plus Vujanic if we could find the right trading partner. If not, I would go with either Diener or Joey Graham. If Diener is the pick then I would not be opposed to signing Skita to an offer sheet and seeing if Denver matches.

If you haven't notice I would rather be a GM, than a coach.

 

[Kolo]

Although it'd be great to get a higher pick, nice to see a trade work out for both teams, which is the whole point (although among most message board posters, the idea is to "win" the trade, whatever that means).

 

[Errntknght]

Right after the Suns played the Bulls I said that we ought to trade their pick quick while everyone believed it woud be of great value. No one even commented on it so I figured everyone thought it was too ridiculous to even make fun of. Even tho we won handily I thought Deng and Gordon looked very good and it seemed likely the team would start moving up with a little more time to jell. Dang, I hated to give them any props with Skiles running the show...

 

[devilalum]

Although it'd be great to get a higher pick, nice to see a trade work out for both teams, which is the whole point (although among most message board posters, the idea is to "win" the trade, whatever that means).

Its kind of like the Suns traded

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for

Zarko and Vroman

I've heard people say that the Q deal wouldn't have happened but I'm not sure that's not spin control.
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[Kolo]

Its kind of like the Suns traded

[font=verdana, arial, helvetica]Iguodala, Andre

for

Zarko and Vroman

I've heard people say that the Q deal wouldn't have happened but I'm not sure that's not spin control.
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The #7 spot paid about $2.2 million, which means we'd have $3.8 million after Nash--certainly not enough to get Q signed to a 6 year deal (that's about $1.5 million under what the MLE was). How is that spin control?

And you're assuming the Chicago pick will not turn into a good player. It'll probably fall somewhere between 8 and 15 this year. Given the Suns' track record at drafting (Zarko notwithstanding), I like our chances.

 

[goldseraph]

Personally I am not that high on the Q Rich decision or the trading of the pick. I think we have enough firepower, and a player like Iguodala would have been a perfect fit. He would have come cheaper than Q Rich, which would have allowed us to keep Jahidi White and save money for resigning JJ. With the Bulls faring so well, the trade looks even worse to me.

 

[PhxGametime]

There are a bunch of players that could fit well with 1-30 Draft Pick:

4/5 Bogut, Taft, Boone, Splitter, Warrick, Graham, M Williams, Aldridge, Turiaf, Frye, J Williams...

Taft, Boone, Aldridge, and Frye being athletic defenders, with some scoring ability; Warrick, Graham, Marvin Williams, and Jawad Williams being athletic skilled 3 Prospects capable of playing the 4 with Suns; Splitter and Bogut all-around performers with shot-blocking ability; Turiaf giving the Suns a big that averages a decent amount of FT's

2/3 R Gay, McCants, A Wright, Brewer, Hodge, Carney, Garcia, Giddens, Morrison, Banks...

A Wright, Ronnie Brewer, and Hodge being all-around athletic 3 position players; McCants (tough post up player at 6'4), Garcia, and Giddens being athletic shooters; Rudy Gay, Banks, and Morrison all 3 around 6'8 at wings with a variety of skills

1 Paul, Felton, Jack, D Williams, Gilchrist, Shakur, N Robinson, D Washington...

Paul, Felton, Jack, and Deron Williams lead guards; Gilchrist and Nate Robinson explosive 1's; Shakur and Darius Washington talented young 1's with potential



I could list more and there's always a few I don't know (just watched Ronnie Brewer recently)

 

[devilalum]

The #7 spot paid about $2.2 million, which means we'd have $3.8 million after Nash--certainly not enough to get Q signed to a 6 year deal (that's about $1.5 million under what the MLE was). How is that spin control?

And you're assuming the Chicago pick will not turn into a good player. It'll probably fall somewhere between 8 and 15 this year. Given the Suns' track record at drafting (Zarko notwithstanding), I like our chances.

Maybe so but BC admitted that the Suns would never have traded the pick had they known that Iggy would be available.

Just another example of how our current roster is more luck than vision.

I am very happy with our luck, I just have a problem with praising people who are lucky.

 

[Chaplin]

Maybe so but BC admitted that the Suns would never have traded the pick had they known that Iggy would be available.

Just another example of how our current roster is more luck than vision.

I am very happy with our luck, I just have a problem with praising people who are lucky.

I remember BC saying he would have maybe had second thoughts about trading the pick, but I don't remember him ever saying that he'd definitely not have traded it. You seem to be sure on what BC said 6 months ago, do you have links to the articles that quoted him? Just curious.

 

[hcsilla]

There are a bunch of players that could fit well with 14-30 Draft Pick:

4/5 Bogut, Taft, Boone, Splitter, Warrick, Graham, M Williams, Aldridge, Turiaf, Frye, J Williams...

I highly doubt that Bogut, Marvin Williams and Splitter will be available at #14.
Boone is questionable too.

McCants (tough low post player at 6'4),

McCants as a low post player?

 

[PhxGametime]

I highly doubt that Bogut, Marvin Williams and Splitter will be available at #14.
Boone is questionable too.

McCants as a low post player?[/QUOTE

LOL I meant to say he has a post-up game for a SG.

 

[thegrahamcrackr]

Of course, the fact that Iggy fell all the way to the Sixers was luck. He was almost a certain top 4 lock no matter what scout or insider you talked to. The Suns made the deal because they thought he would be gone.

Of course, it would have been nice to be able to pull the deal on draft day instead of 2 days earlier, but that probably wasn't an option.


I really am not that worried about the pick at this point.

 

[elindholm]

The Bulls had four players in double-figure rebounds today. That's pretty impressive. And no, Eddy Curry wasn't one of them.