I'm not looking to argue but you've tried putting down posters here multiple times now between your comments here and in the other thread about how the Suns might be able to get Ball while sending out nothing in exchange. I'm not just going to sit back while someone makes claims about users on this board that aren't based in reality. If you're going to make those comments then be prepared to be called on them. That's how debating things works. You can't just throw out accusations without any evidence and then deny to provide examples when asked. If you don't feel like backing them up then don't make the claims.
Ulis was never included in any trade offers as anything other than salary. The Suns pushing back his guaranteed date doesn't mean much of anything. The Suns doing that doesn't prove that posters here overvalue players in any way whatsoever. I'm not even sure why you're mentioning that because there's no relation between the Suns waiving him and how people here viewed his value. I don't think many people here even thought he stood a good chance of making next years team.
Chriss hasn't been valued much by anyone here in quite some time. I don't recall anyone saying he'd be in the main piece in a trade for Doncic or even a valuable piece of a deal to move up in the draft. If he was included in any trade scenarios to move up then it was as the 3rd or 4th asset, if that, but it was acknowledged his value wasn't very high and his inclusion shouldn't make or break a trade. I don't think that's overvaluing him since he was treated as a throw in, if at all. Most acknowledge he has no trade value and is probably more valuable to us than in a trade since we used a top 10 pick to acquire him and have him locked in cheap for 2 more years.
Hahahaha not in the slightest, just because I dish it out a little back, When people here are clearly being rude and condescending in a response, I've never set out to be rude, I only responded in the same fashion as I had been spoken too. I am not putting down posters, so hold your horses and let's not go on going back and forth responding.
Here's a Bordow interview discussing the Ball for nothing trade, it's not a figment of my imaganation and by the way he is for it.
http://arizonasports.com/category/podcast_player/?a=345083&sid=1015&n=Bickley+&+Marotta
I read every post people drop here so all I was stating is Chriss's value is lower than some expected. So you can jump on here and feel attacked and accuse me of making things up and being rude, But by the tone of your post, it seems clearly the other way and just because we have a difference of opionion, no need to get all worked up.
I was mainly trying to point out Chriss was attempted to be traded during the draft with no takers and Ulis was shopped with no takers. I was pointing out us posters (myself included) and the Suns front office valued both players more than the league seems to value them. Chriss was mentioned in numerous trade up scenarios with the 16, if we were expecting to jump up to 8, with Chriss, 16 and a future pick, it's obvious as a fan of the team we value players a little more for playing on our team. When I read my post above, it's obviously not an attempt to put down posters, plus no thanks I am not going to be assigned the enormous task of reading and quoting every possible trade put involving Chriss, just because you don't agree and want me too Lol