Chopper0080
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@kerouac9 why sad? I think that would be great for a DT/DE
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It is a tough one. He is a football player's football player.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
I understand the concern but once we didn't trade up, the options to improve the d front became limited. I liked Robinson more than Newton which is one reason I liked the pick. I like that he can be used as a 3T in a 4 man front, a 5T in an odd front, and even a base DE in an even front. Physical freak with what seems like a pro(esque) approach to the game. 34.5 inch arms and physical presence in a physical division. Another size/speed comp is Arik Armstead/DeForest Buckner.
i hate the Robinson pick
Never.
They just signed 2 guys to start. They liked LJ Collier so much he started for us last year. They like Stills. If Robinson plays inside he's getting 40% snaps tops which is a waste of a 1st round pick on a team that needs impact players right now.
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You need 2 starting Edge guys though? And Ideally you want them both to be equally as good.
At least do the minimal research. That's our base defense. At most we play that about 35% of the time.
Most of the time we are in Nickel with a 4 man front.
They are very different players with very different roles. They ain't drafting Robinson because they aren't happy with Ojulari.
If Ojulari had 10 sacks last year they are still drafting Robinson.
Krangodnzr
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As @BritCard said, Ojulari and Robinson will play different positions.
Robinson could be looked at as more in the Calais Campbell type role in this defense, playing on the edge inside, not edge on the outside. He'll line up face up on the tackle, where as Ojulari lines up outside of the tackle.
Chopper0080
2021 - Prove It
I think Collier started more because he was a better option than the rest of the garbage they trotted otu there more than anything.
Expectation is that Robinson gets between 50-60 % of defensive snaps his rookie year unless injury. That would be more than any player on the defensive front got last year.
I'm going to be even more disappointed in the pick if we drafted a guy that played 102 college snaps inside to play DT. I'm amazed more people aren't pissed at it. It would be peak Keim to do it again.
I really hope we drafted him to play Edge, they are still very different players that will be used in different way for different situations. And can complement each other when on the field together.
juza76
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Sorry man but isnt too early to be so stubborn?
We are talking about a good DT/DE prospect, rated as a First rounder by most of the sites
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He played 596 snaps at the 3 technique.
According to who?
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Krangodnzr
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When you run multiple fronts, you need guys who fill more than one role. Robinson can play 3T-5T.
No?
Drafting players to play a position in the NFL that wasn't their main college position is something we have done over and over again. When has it ever worked?
The absolute best we ever got was a couple of good seasons out of Deone playing a hybrid safety linebacker position but he was never extended and barely lasted 5 years in the league.
Krangodnzr
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You can make that argument all day long for DL though since they rotate so much.
I very much doubt that Collier will be much of anything.
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That's mostly 4i, the PFF system just isn't specific enough to seperate them.
FYI here's Robinsons success rate by alignment
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1st round interior DL you would expect to start right away and play 60% plus of snaps. Not backup a couple of average vets.
Anyway this is all wasted breath until we know. I don't believe, and I sincerely hope, that he's going to play inside much. I think he's a 5/6 tech in nickel that occasionally moves inside on 3rd and long sub packages.
Well a lot of people would have take Barton at 27 and put him at LG.
Robinson is going to be moved around a lot. He is currently one of 4 most talented DLineman...and he's going g to be on the field plenty
Krangodnzr
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This is exactly what I think he is too.
In an odd front the line between DE/DT is very blurry, as opposed to how it is in an even front. I don't think any of the other DL offer the ability to effectively play multiple roles like Robinson.
This is why I've been saying for probably about a month now that he was a possibility for #27. He's a big, long, strong, and violent guy who will be a glue player for the front seven.
SoonerLou
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Chris Simms is very high on him. Although he thinks he needs to play inside mostly to succeed.
It's extremely common to move offensive lineman in the NFL to suit their traits.
It's very rare to move a defensive lineman from Edge to inside and even more rare to have it be a success.
