UofA Football now on probation.Will ASU follow?

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Don't get too excited. Arizona is techincally not on probation nor will ever be if it nips this problem in the bud. All it means right now is four walk-ons who might have gotten scholarships are going to be left paying their own way.
 

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Nice down play Mao...Actually, ua is in danger of losing 2 more scholies next year, if they don't fix their problem...And I'm guessing that those 2 5 star studs aren't helping...
 

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and to answer the question at the beginning of this thread, NO, ASU isn't even close to following ua into grade/graduation proplems in football...but nice attempt at a spin...
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Don't get too excited. Arizona is techincally not on probation nor will ever be if it nips this problem in the bud. All it means right now is four walk-ons who might have gotten scholarships are going to be left paying their own way.


What are those poor guys names, or are you just spinnen again? I thought you said ua had a loaded class...How come they have open scholies???
 

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What are those poor guys names, or are you just spinnen again? I thought you said ua had a loaded class...How come they have open scholies???
Transfers. Kovalsuck and a few other benchwarmers are leaving the team.
 

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Arizona Loses 4 Scholarships Due to APR
Josh Gershon
GOAZCATS.com Senior Writer

Instead of having 85 scholarship players on its roster in 2006, Arizona's football team will have 81. The UA lost four scholarships because it did not meet requirements of the NCAA's Academic Progress Report.

The NCAA instituted the APR to make sure student-athletes were making sufficient progress in the classroom and staying enrolled at that institution. A score of 925 is needed to assure a program that it will not lose scholarships and Arizona scored an 882.

The good news for the UA is that while the punishment hurts, it isn't significant. Arizona can recruit the class of 2007 the way it would have anyway. No players will lose scholarships; the UA just can't give the available ones to walk-ons.

After getting the results of the APR back, Arizona immediately appealed the loss of scholarships. The UA's case was that because of all the turnover in Arizona's program since Dick Tomey resigned in 2000, the football players faced unfair distractions. However, the NCAA denied the appeal.

Arizona is expected to bring in a full allotment of players in the 2007 recruiting class.
 

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So ALL of those "loaded" classes, aren't really loaded?
 

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Renz said:
Arizona Loses 4 Scholarships Due to APR
Josh Gershon
GOAZCATS.com Senior Writer
After getting the results of the APR back, Arizona immediately appealed the loss of scholarships. The UA's case was that because of all the turnover in Arizona's program since Dick Tomey resigned in 2000, the football players faced unfair distractions. However, the NCAA denied the appeal.

Arizona is expected to bring in a full allotment of players in the 2007 recruiting class.

What kind of crap is that??? Tomey was let go, he didn't resign...And ua wants the world to feel bad for them since they've hired 3 bad coaches in a row?
Distractions??? I used to get distracted when I was 2 years old...

Grow Up!

It took me 5 years to graduate from ASU, maybe I can appeal and get some money back, as I was unfairly distracted by beautifull women at ASU...?
 

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What kind of crap is that??? Tomey was let go, he didn't resign...And ua wants the world to feel bad for them since they've hired 3 bad coaches in a row?
Distractions??? I used to get distracted when I was 2 years old...

Grow Up!

It took me 5 years to graduate from ASU, maybe I can appeal and get some money back, as I was unfairly distracted by beautifull women at ASU...?
Tomey resigned.
 

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If I recall correctly, his contract was over...How can you resign, when you don't have a job???
 

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Tomey had three years left on his contract when he resigned.

The University of Arizona's contract with Nike has a controversial history.
By JIM NINTZEL

"The multinational corporations came to Mexico and other places on purpose because they have lax enforcement of their labor laws and people are willing to work for as little as possible," says Rachel Wilson (center), pictured with fellow Students Against Sweatshops Jesse Kirchner (left) and Lydia Lester (right). The students say the UA sweatshirt was made at Kukdong.

The University of Arizona has been in business with Nike since 1998, when the UA inked a $7 million contract with the footwear giant.
Under the terms of the five-year deal, the UA receives $1.4 million annually. The bulk of that comes in shoes, apparel and equipment worth an estimated $818,000 in retail value. Student programs receive $102,000, while coaches in 11 different programs split $435,000. (The coaches, along with assistants and administrators, also get roughly $68,000 in Nike products.) The UA also gets an 8.5-percent royalty on some apparel sales--a particularly lucrative clause in a year when Arizona reaches the final NCAA championship game.

There's no doubt the Department of Intercollegiate Athletics needs the Nike dollars these days. Although UA Athletic Director Jim Livengood declined to be interviewed for this story, it's obvious he's facing new challenges when it comes to balancing his books.

The price tag of his beleaguered football program jumped at the end of last season, when Coach Dick Tomey resigned after 14 years with the UA. Livengood was under tremendous pressure to replace Tomey after the Cats' mediocre 5-6 season.

http://www.tucsonweekly.com/gbase/Currents/Content?oid=oid:43889

http://tspweb02.tsp.utexas.edu/webarchive/12-05-00/2000120509_s05_.html
 

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Did he really Renz? That is hard to believe!
I'm not trying to argue with you.
The last I heard was that both Snider and Tomey were at the end of their contracts...
Anyways, if Tomey had 3 years left, then why would he resign??? That makes zero sence, as he would of or could have been bought out...??? Sooo something stated here is incorrect.
 
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Tomey quit because the fans had turned on him. After his last loss to ASU the fans had had enough of Tomey's "winning with defense" strategy and wanted a change.

I remember Tomey just being worn out under the strain and all the negativity being thrown out at him and his family. Maybe it was a mutual decision between Tomey and Livengood (hence the buyout) but he definitely quit.
 

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To be fair, Tomey would have likely been fired had he not resigned. A good move right up until they hired Whackovic.
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
To be fair, Tomey would have likely been fired had he not resigned. A good move right up until they hired Whackovic.

I don't see how it was a good move to force Tomey out...He's the best football coach ua has had in quite a while...
 

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I don't see how it was a good move to force Tomey out...He's the best football coach ua has had in quite a while...
If beating your rival and going to meaningless bowl games constitues a good coach, then you'd be ecstatic with Dick Tomey. Tomey had fifteen years to take Arizona football to the next level but all we saw were missed opportunities and a worse program than the one he inherited thanks to his inability to get players ready for big games and embarrassingly pathetic offense. Getting rid of Tomey was the right move, who we replaced him with was the wrong move.
 

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Obviously, this is just my opinion...but, for a basketball school, you're expecting too much from your football program...Tomey led ua to their best season EVER as ua's head coach...IMO, Tomey=Snyder. You have a really good season every now and then, and the rest of the time you're mediocre...Isn't that better than what ua has done since Tomey left? And yes, that includes the Stoops years...Furthermore, how is Stoops a better hire than wackovick? What are their winning percentages?
 

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MaoTosiFanClub said:
Tomey had fifteen years to take Arizona football to the next level but all we saw were missed opportunities and a worse program than the one he inherited thanks to his inability to get players ready for big games and embarrassingly pathetic offense.

No offense(pun intended), but ua's offense has been much more embarrassing under Stoops...
 

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