VC a Cancer?

[slinslin]

It doesnt matter if he's a superstar. We need another scorer alongside Nash.

And yea Iggy makes a lot of $$$...

But guess what? If you want good players, you have to pay good for them too. I thought Suns fans would have learned this by now after the Amare thing...

Except Amare when healthy is a top 10 player in the NBA.

Iguodala is MAYBE top 50.

 

[SactownSunsFan]

I said it when the trade first went down. the best thing Carter's bringing to this team is his huge expiring contract.

 

[jagu]

I said it when the trade first went down. the best thing Carter's bringing to this team is his huge expiring contract.

Yea, I love that trait about him. He isn't done though, he still has very good jumping ability, can shoot, can work off the dribble. His attitude sucks but hey I can look past that when I see a quality expiring contract.

 

[JCSunsfan]

Better to let Carter expire and go unless we can rip off some team desperate to make room under the cap by taking on contracts in exchange for lottery picks.

Also doesn't make sense to pay a lot of money for J-Rich when we rebuild and he is getting old too.

Then why not just cut him. Let other guys play and develop. His number will come off of the cap at the same time anyway. If you have such a presence in the locker room, just be rid of it. Get Carter out of the way and the younger guys will play with more energy.

 

[Chaplin]

Then why not just cut him. Let other guys play and develop. His number will come off of the cap at the same time anyway. If you have such a presence in the locker room, just be rid of it. Get Carter out of the way and the younger guys will play with more energy.

I'm not sure what the rules are--but if you cut him, we might be responsible for the entire salary for next season. We're not going to cut him if we end up having to pay 14 million extra.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I'm not sure what the rules are--but if you cut him, we might be responsible for the entire salary for next season. We're not going to cut him if we end up having to pay 14 million extra.

If that's the case, of course not. My understanding is that we could still buy him out.

 

[Chaplin]

If that's the case, of course not. My understanding is that we could still buy him out.

My impression was that it couldn't happen until the summer. But I could be wrong. He also might have better value as an expiring in early February.

 

[elindholm]

Carter's not that good, but the Suns are desperate for scorers right now, so they need to get what they can out of him.

 

[leclerc]

Sounds like 'ol Vince is a piece of ****. Ship him out as soon as possible but not with buyout. Even though he has a huge contract he's not automatically earned the playing time. That has to be done on the court and in practice. He's not part of our plans the next few years so play The Dragon and Childress more instead of that old hog.

 

[jagu]

You rather see Childress take awkward looking shots and brick them than Vince Carter, who can still play effective basketball?

 

[sunsfan88]

Suns should consider doing this with Carter.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4zq5r79

Nash, Dragic
Dudley, Pietrus
Hill, Childress
Nene, Harrington
Gortat, Frye

The Suns then trade Lopez & Warrick to some other team for draft pick(s) or TEs.

Nene can be a go to scorer in the post that we haven't had since Amare. Gortat can do what he does best; pick & roll with Nash, defend & rebound.

Dragic gets 5 three pt shooters with him on the 2nd unit. And even though Harrington's struggling now, he was good in the fast paced system with NY.

The only thing I'd be concerned with his spacing in the starting unit but Nene is a decent jump shooter (#1 FG% in the NBA and not all were dunks or layups) And his post scoring is something we can use after the Nash era if we go to a more traditional half court offense.

 

[Magnus]

The one flaw in that statement is that there's no way that Denver would give up on Nene and Harrington for Carter

 

[elindholm]

The one flaw in that statement is that there's no way that Denver would give up on Nene and Harrington for Carter

The Nuggets are desperate to get rid of Harrington, but you're right that they probably want to keep Nene.

 

[devilalum]

The one flaw in that statement is that there's no way that Denver would give up on Nene and Harrington for Carter

The Suns should take Harrington and a couple of #1s for the trade exception they got for Amare.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The Suns should take Harrington and a couple of #1s for the trade exception they got for Amare.

And then move Harrington to a playoff contender for another number one.

Steve

 

[sunsfan88]

The one flaw in that statement is that there's no way that Denver would give up on Nene and Harrington for Carter

Why not? Their supposedly DESPERATELY trying to get rid of Harrington's contract right now. Their trying to add him to the 'Melo trade but the Nets said hell no. And to be honest, Harrington can probably play well on only 3 teams: NY, GS & PHX.

NY wouldn't trade for him cause they already have their team set so why mess with something that's going well. GS doesn't need him either. We could use him if it means getting back Nene as well.

Plus GS & NY wouldn't want Nene much either because their already have a dominant big man in Amare & Lee. Getting Nene would be too many PFs and likely clog up the paint.

The only flaw is that if $arver will stay away from being cheap and trade for a big contract even if it means getting another good player in return.

 

[Magnus]

Certainly, the deal is viable from the Suns perspective. But Denver needs Nene, he's their best big man. I just don't think they need Carter as much as Phoenix needs Nene.

 

[JCSunsfan]

I would buy Carter out this summer and sign JRich back. Then trade Lawal, Pietrus or Childress for Lou. That team right there would be balanced. I think it would be pretty good.

 

[AzStevenCal]

I would buy Carter out this summer and sign JRich back. Then trade Lawal, Pietrus or Childress for Lou. That team right there would be balanced. I think it would be pretty good.

We'd still have a hole at power forward. Lou is a great energy guy but he'd get eaten alive if he were forced to play every night against starting PF's. Don't get me wrong, we'd be better off with Lou than any of the three players you mentioned but I don't think it moves us too far up the ladder. Especially if the key player on the second squad (Dragic) doesn't start showing consistently what he has shown sporadically.

Steve

 

[JCSunsfan]

We'd still have a hole at power forward. Lou is a great energy guy but he'd get eaten alive if he were forced to play every night against starting PF's. Don't get me wrong, we'd be better off with Lou than any of the three players you mentioned but I don't think it moves us too far up the ladder. Especially if the key player on the second squad (Dragic) doesn't start showing consistently what he has shown sporadically.

Steve

I was thinking of Lou as a backup pf. Frye is the starting pf at this point. I don't expect him to play C. So if we got a pf, it would be a Frye replacement. I am comfortable with Frye at pf if it would be possible to add a star/superstar type player at another position.

 

[Magnus]

Oh and why does Pietrus get no minutes now? I remember he had just one great game, but I haven't really watched him play any, so I don't know. What's his story?

 

[BC867]

Oh and why does Pietrus get no minutes now? I remember he had just one great game, but I haven't really watched him play any, so I don't know. What's his story?

Too many Wings. Gentry was right to narrow the rotation.

He's done a good job of it since being blown out by the Knicks here in Phoenix when he started a Forward, a Point Guard and three Wings. If he hadn't started that overwhelmingly weak lineup, we wouldn't be building strength as we are now.

It is too bad that Pietrus got traded, then buried on the bench. But with Carter and Gortat making major contributions, (in the words of Meat Loaf -- actually Jim Steinman who wrote the song) two out of three ain't bad.