Video: JJ torching Celtics in 4th

[Darth Llama]

Yeah!!

I thought Boston would roll and be fresh for the Finals.

This changes everything. They will be tested by the Cavs if they win, and by Detroit as well. They will limp into the Finals IF they get there.

And honestly, while I'd love to have them face the Lakers for the title, almost as important as my team winning is the Celtics losing. This sets them up to be tired and vunerable.

Yep, I'm in the same boat. If they blow it to Atlanta, I'll be pretty happy because of how funny that would be. For them to come that far and dominate the league the way they did, and then lose in the 1st round to the Hawks would be great. On the other hand, it would be awesome to have the Lakers beat them in the finals. As long as they lose at some point, I'm cool.

 

[da_suns_fan]

I am an expert on the JJ fiasco. The "JJ wanted to leave people" are giving the front office a huge pass.

Everyone's right about the 6/50 million Sarver wouldn't give JJ in 04, but the Suns also did some garbage the following year.

Following the 2005 draft, they sent out word to the rest of the league that would match ANY offer for Joe Johnson, so don't even bother with an offer. Cleveland was open in saying that if he wasn't restricted or believed that the Suns weren't going to match, they would have targeted him as their number one option instead of Larry Hughes.

That same summer, Michael Redd and Ray Allen got 90 million dollar extentions. Joe's financial advisor went on Bickley and MJ and explained that he and JJ went out around the valley looking at where JJ should invest his money from the new contract he was about to get from the Suns.

The Suns offered JJ 6/60 million. Sarver went on Gambo and Ash during the JJ fallout, and said he came to this number (the offer) by looking at what Steve Nash and Ginobili were making. Funny, considering those two are a couple of the most underpaid superstars in the league.

JJ wasn't getting any offers from other teams because of the word the Suns were saying and he felt he was being forced to accept their low-ball offer. This pissed him off royaly. Then Atlanta came along and gave him a 5/70 million dollar offer and a chance to play in the south. The Suns got wind and panicked. They offered JJ 6/75 million (still much less if you believe JJ will get more than a five million dollar offer at the end of his current deal). JJ told the Suns hewas going to accept Atlanta's offer and he didn't want them to match, but he told Marc Stein of ESPN that if they did match he would be professional and everything would be cool with him and the organization.


Bottom line: In 2004 Sarver screwed up royaly. In 2005, both sides were to blame, but the Suns still had every right to match but decided that it was too much money. Whats dispicable was the hate campaign they created for JJ.

 

[Darth Llama]

I am an expert on the JJ fiasco. The "JJ wanted to leave people" are giving the front office a huge pass.

Everyone's right about the 6/50 million Sarver wouldn't give JJ in 04, but the Suns also did some garbage the following year.

Following the 2005 draft, they sent out word to the rest of the league that would match ANY offer for Joe Johnson, so don't even bother with an offer. Cleveland was open in saying that if he wasn't restricted or believed that the Suns weren't going to match, they would have targeted him as their number one option instead of Larry Hughes.

That same summer, Michael Redd and Ray Allen got 90 million dollar extentions. Joe's financial advisor went on Bickley and MJ and explained that he and JJ went out around the valley looking at where JJ should invest his money from the new contract he was about to get from the Suns.

The Suns offered JJ 6/60 million. Sarver went on Gambo and Ash during the JJ fallout, and said he came to this number (the offer) by looking at what Steve Nash and Ginobili were making. Funny, considering those two are a couple of the most underpaid superstars in the league.

JJ wasn't getting any offers from other teams because of the word the Suns were saying and he felt he was being forced to accept their low-ball offer. This pissed him off royaly. Then Atlanta came along and gave him a 5/70 million dollar offer and a chance to play in the south. The Suns got wind and panicked. They offered JJ 6/75 million (still much less if you believe JJ will get more than a five million dollar offer at the end of his current deal). JJ told the Suns hewas going to accept Atlanta's offer and he didn't want them to match, but he told Marc Stein of ESPN that if they did match he would be professional and everything would be cool with him and the organization.


Bottom line: In 2004 Sarver screwed up royaly. In 2005, both sides were to blame, but the Suns still had every right to match but decided that it was too much money. Whats dispicable was the hate campaign they created for JJ.

Good stuff, thanks for the info. The Suns should have matched that offer, but it was a good score for the Hawks.