Vince Carter? yes or no?

[Dave64]

Carter wants out of the hole that is Toronto. No offense to the city itself, just the team. Thoughts on whether Carter would be good or bad in a trade? 23 points, 5 rebounds, and 5 assists per game. Thoughts? Dave

 

[SweetD]

You should have a poll attached.

 

[Phill11]

No.

Injury prone, not a leader. I say no. Marion is better than Vince anyday.

 

[SweetD]

No.

Injury prone, not a leader. I say no. Marion is better than Vince anyday.

ok I am a hommer but this is going to far. I don't like compairing players... Marion and Vince are different players. 1on1 and with the game on the line I would go with Vince any day. Marion is a guy who will do the dirty work and put up ok numbers but will not be the #1 option for your team. But I would for the Suns take Marion over Vince right now.

 

[Yuma]

no!

 

[Chris_Sanders]

ok I am a hommer but this is going to far. I don't like compairing players... Marion and Vince are different players. 1on1 and with the game on the line I would go with Vince any day. Marion is a guy who will do the dirty work and put up ok numbers but will not be the #1 option for your team. But I would for the Suns take Marion over Vince right now.

My only problem with Vince Carter is that he is injury prone. He is an amazing talent outside of that.

I also haven't seen him make anyone else around him better, which you think he would do with all the attention he gets on offense. Maybe that is just more of an indictment of his teammates.

 

[SweetD]

My only problem with Vince Carter is that he is injury prone. He is an amazing talent outside of that.

I also haven't seen him make anyone else around him better, which you think he would do with all the attention he gets on offense. Maybe that is just more of an indictment of his teammates.

Poor guy is in Canada... He doesn't have anyone else on his team to help.

 

[cheng]

yes only if he is healthy

he did almost took his team to the conference finals by himself

the problem is that his coachs always had allowed him to take way too many 3s.

 

[George O'Brien]

yes only if he is healthy

he did almost took his team to the conference finals by himself

the problem is that his coachs always had allowed him to take way too many 3s.

Carter is a jerk. He is very acrobatic, but he only shot 41.7% this year.

 

[Phill11]

Carter is a jerk. He is very acrobatic, but he only shot 41.7% this year.

Very true. He can't shoot. Marion isn't much better. But Marion plays defense, rebounds, and brings more energy than Vince, IMO.

 

[George O'Brien]

Very true. He can't shoot. Marion isn't much better. But Marion plays defense, rebounds, and brings more energy than Vince, IMO.

I know I'm being picky, but it seems to me that a super shooter should have a higher average than Marion at 44% in a terrible year. In 2001-02, Marion shot 46.9% and 39.3% for three. In 2002-03, he shot 45.2% and 38.7% for three while scoring 21.2ppg.

Last summer Marion did not spend enough time working on his shooting and it took him over 2/3 of the season to find the range. Prior to 2002-03 (his All Star year), he spend the summer with the US National team.

I think that Marion will have a huge year this year with Nash running the offense.

 

[Phill11]

I know I'm being picky, but it seems to me that a super shooter should have a higher average than Marion at 44% in a terrible year. In 2001-02, Marion shot 46.9% and 39.3% for three. In 2002-03, he shot 45.2% and 38.7% for three while scoring 21.2ppg.

Last summer Marion did not spend enough time working on his shooting and it took him over 2/3 of the season to find the range. Prior to 2002-03 (his All Star year), he spend the summer with the US National team.

I think that Marion will have a huge year this year with Nash running the offense.

Yeah, hopefully we can limit Marions 3's a lot. His form is just awful.

Marion would be a great guy to take midrange shots and dunks. But him taking 3's kills us, I think. His percentage is good, but he takes too many 3's. Take the easy hoops. Go to the hole.

 

[George O'Brien]

Yeah, hopefully we can limit Marions 3's a lot. His form is just awful.

Marion would be a great guy to take midrange shots and dunks. But him taking 3's kills us, I think. His percentage is good, but he takes too many 3's. Take the easy hoops. Go to the hole.

Marion's form is awful, but he was a pretty good three point shooter until this season. His three point shooting improved dramatically late in the season.

None the less, I'd much rather have Nash shooting threes than Marion (Nash has a career 41.6% average for three pointers) including 45.5% in 2001-02.

 

[Phill11]

Marion's form is awful, but he was a pretty good three point shooter until this season. His three point shooting improved dramatically late in the season.

None the less, I'd much rather have Nash shooting threes than Marion (Nash has a career 41.6% average for three pointers) including 45.5% in 2001-02.

But 1/2 of Marion's three's are luck. Look at that form. I have a better shot at draining a 3 form wise than Marion.

I'd like to see Casey and maybe JJ take some threes. After watching Amare make the three in the Spurs game maybe give him a few shots.

 

[George O'Brien]

Marion's form is weird consistent. I've watched him practice and he shoots the same way every time. The problem with his form is not that it makes his shots a matter of luck, it's that he has to be completely wide open to take the shot due to the low release point. I have the same problem with Barbosa, even though his shot goes in a high percentage of the time.

By contrast, Jake Voskuhl has never shot a three point shot in his entire NBA career. For him to hit a three would be LUCK.

BTW, Lampe could very well be the team's second best three point shooter. He has almost perfect form and shoots every shot exactly the same way every time. He needs to play closer to the basket, but having a guy who is that kind of shooting threat at center creates a real problem for teams that want to pack the paint on defense.