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Here's an excerpt off a message board I found:
"how can they have jackson vroman as a best of the rest? i mean come on, they say his body aint ready. i watched him play maybe 15 games live this year and he doesn't let anybody push him around and runs the floor better than anyone else in the draft. should be mid 1st round pick".
 

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Apparently, he was one of the top guys at the Chicago and Providence camps. Of course, the Chicago camp was all 2nd rounders, but still... ;)
 

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Since I'm a glutton for punishment, I went through Draft City's Chicago notes, looking for mentions of Vroman.

(Day 1--Looked Good) Jackson Vroman- Hard not to like the way this guy plays. He’s always getting in someone’s face, very active on the glass and he’s really a good defender. Made a good first impression on me for sure.

(Day 2--Team 5 vs. Team 6) The star of Team 6 was Jackson Vroman, who was everywhere on the floor today. He is a super energetic player with lots of intangibles to do the small things to help put his team on top. He had 6 offensive rebounds today, almost all sheer hustle plays, to go with his team high 17 points (11-17 from the free throw line). He looked great at Portsmouth and he is now continuing where he left off in Chicago. His chances of being drafted just got a lot higher, especially if he can keep it up.

Day 3--Team 3 vs. Team 6) Jackson Vroman again had a strong showing and is strongly in the running for MVP of the camp so far, along with Andre Emmet and Beno Udrih. He was all over the floor as usual, playing nice defense, making good heads up passes and just showing that he could end up becoming a valuable role player on the right team.

Day 4--Team 1 vs. Team 6) Jamie Lloreda and Jackson Vroman deserve to be mentioned together for the unselfish work they did at the 4-5 spots in this game. In the first two games they had very little chemistry between them, but this time around it was just wonderful to see them operate. They both had some great assists to each other and their teammates as well, a couple of them being spectacular passes, and they rotated beautifully on offense and defense to maximize their time on the floor.

Draft City's All-Chicago Team--C: Jackson Vroman (MVP: PG Beno Udrih)


Givony's Q&A

Q: Of all the players who were likely to go undrafted before Moody Bible, which of them now has a solid chance of being a surefire 2nd rounder now?

A: Beno Udrih is the best example. He was probably going to either go undrafted or be a late second rounder before the camp but now he could slip into the first round. Jackie Butler really helped himself, I don't know if a lot of teams were expecting him to declare for the draft but he really helped himself with the way he played. I don't know if you consider Andre Emmett to be a potentially undrafted player or not but he definitely helped himself a lot. Aerick Sanders probably helped himself a lot; he did very well, though he didn't really stand out. Desmon Farmer most definitely helped himself. Jackson Vroman, I mean I put him right up there with Udrih in terms of upping his stock.

Q: Was there anyone who was pretty much a lock for second round that performed so well that they might move up into the first?

A: No there were none of those this year unless you considered Vroman and Udrih second round locks before Chicago. This was one of those rare Chicago camps where probably nobody, other than Vroman (if I HAVE to add a 2nd player) and Udrih, worked their way into the first round, whereas last year you had guys like Dahntay Jones, Troy Bell, and a couple others who really boosted their stocks. This year though, it's quite possible that most people only hurt themselves.
 
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Vroman has been arrested for both Marijuana possesion AND a DUI.

Just since being drafted?
 

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elindholm said:
Vroman has been arrested for both Marijuana possesion AND a DUI.

Just since being drafted?

sounds about like the night I've had. :)

He should get along great with Little Jake.

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Looks like we could easily part with Jake in a trade.

Marion, Jake, CJ for Kobe (s&t), George?
 

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If Bryant wants to come to the Suns, there is absolutely no reason to give up Marion for him.
 

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elindholm said:
If Bryant wants to come to the Suns, there is absolutely no reason to give up Marion for him.

Two max contracts on SF/SG positions are a bit too much, don't you think so? To optimally add to the core of Amare/Kobe/JJ, it'd be better we spend money on C and PG, not a max contract on SF.
 

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Evil Ash said:
The Lakers have said repeatedly that they will not do a sign-and-trade with Kobe.

The reason for that is that he can't go to a team without enough cap. This is a deterrence strategy. But it's no use with the Suns. We don't need the trade to get Kobe. It's only that both teams would benefit from this trade, not the Lakers' threat is no use here.
 

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cly2tw said:
The reason for that is that he can't go to a team without enough cap. This is a deterrence strategy. But it's no use with the Suns. We don't need the trade to get Kobe. It's only that both teams would benefit from this trade, not the Lakers' threat is no use here.


That is not correct. Laker management has said no to a sign-and-trade no matter who the trading partner is. It doesn't matter whether they have a good reason for it, but that's what they said.
 

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cly2tw, "The reason for that is that he can't go to a team without enough cap. This is a deterrence strategy. "

Excellent point, cly. I had wondered why the Lakers would take that stance when it didn't appear on the surface to be in their best interest.
 
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