Warner helped hide how terrible our coaching staff is.

[SoCal Cardfan]

In this first season without Warner, we will truly see what Whisenhunt has.

Not looking good so far.

 

[Brewster10]

Maybe, but does our staff not get credit for their decision to insert Warner, after everybody in the NFL thought he was toast?

But yeah, this team is hideous right now

 

[DoTheDew]

Too bad he couldn't hide how bad Denny Green was?

 

[CtCardinals78]

Also Green couldn't get Warner to play well either. I give credit to Wiz and his system to turning Warner around and for succeeding with DG's players but now Warner and DG's players are gone for the most part. It's going to be interesting to see what Wiz can do with his system and his guys.

 

[red desert]

In this first season without Warner, we will truly see what Whisenhunt has.

Not looking good so far.

Can't disagree.

 

[Spielman]

In this first season without Warner, we will truly see what Whisenhunt has.

Not looking good so far.

Look, there are few people in the world who liked Warner as a QB more than me, and I believe there's definite truth to the idea that he disguised the offensive line's weakness. But plainly, Whisenhunt and the coaching staff made a bunch of good decisions during the Cards success. The coaching decisions during the playoff run were gutsy and terrific.

I think he's more than earned some patience this season. You're 2-2. Nobody in the division is ahead of you. There's plenty of time to sort this stuff out and come out on top.

 

[Buckybird]

actually he helped masked our pourous D. Warner kept their sorry asses off the field for a big portion of the game.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

I just don't understand Whis.. He obviously never wanted Matt at QB.. and the answer to Warner retiring is... DA?

 

[conraddobler]

Whis has screwed up, he had too much success too early IMO, he started to believe his own press clippings.

I still have all the faith in the world in him, especially after he gets force fed a truck load of humble pie.

Let it burn Whis and next time, DON'T BE SO FREAKING STUPID, start cleaning house Whis or it'll be you next.

 

[Brian]

I wonder if it was a combination of Warner and Haley?

God I miss Haley.

 

[Chopper0080]

actually he helped masked our pourous D. Warner kept their sorry asses off the field for a big portion of the game.

We have skimped on coordinators for years, so this isn't new. Kansas City is an example of what quality coordinators can bring to a team. Look for AZ to make a move this off season and bring in a NAME.

 

[Buckybird]

We have skimped on coordinators for years, so this isn't new. Kansas City is an example of what quality coordinators can bring to a team. Look for AZ to make a move this off season and bring in a NAME.

better hope Wade Phillips gets the axe because I can't think of another big time teacher of the 3-4.

 

[Chopper0080]

better hope Wade Phillips gets the axe because I can't think of another big time teacher of the 3-4.

Every week I cheer fro a Cowboys loss because of this. (and also because I hate the Cowboys)

Manusky from the 49ers would be a good choice as well. Del Rio might be gone, but I am not sure of his familiarity of the 3-4.

 

[Mitch]

Also Green couldn't get Warner to play well either. I give credit to Wiz and his system to turning Warner around and for succeeding with DG's players but now Warner and DG's players are gone for the most part. It's going to be interesting to see what Wiz can do with his system and his guys.

This is the POST of THE DAY! KUDOS CT!

The thing is...Whiz allowed KW to make the pre-game prep and in-game adjustments...as simple as, "Hey, Breastie, they are double teaming Fitz, so next play I will hit you on your break on the intermediate post."

The bane of Whiz's decision making as a HC is how awful he's been at both not adjusting to the deficiencies of his o-line, as in chipping a DE who's killing the team (just like today...no adjustments...ever)...and most especially in having or showing no clue as to how to put in place a DC and a defensive system that is even remotely comeptent.

Plus, sadly, what we are seeing now is that Whiz and his staff don't have the gravitas to motivate the players. I said it previously and today is further confirmation, the players have very little respect for the coaches. There's very little accountability...and a player-friendly atmosphere that obviously does not promote player leadership.

I am just going to make this my post of the week...Game 4 Impressions: Chargers 41 Cardinals 10.

We all saw this debacle...we saw what we saw...let's just all chime in on CT's post about WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FROM HERE:

1. Anderson needs to be released. He's done here. He blew it. If he is starting next week Whiz has lost this team forever.

2. A move to add a veteran QB needs to happen, asap. With the bye week coming up he can be assimilated into the offense and be a good fallback option if Max Hall falters.

3. Max Hall needs to start for now...and hopefully for a long time to come...but give him audible options for a hot route of simple check to a sweep when the opponents are threating the A gaps. Play to Max's strengths...which Whiz obviously doesn't know yet, because his play calling for Max was pitifully awful.

4. Brandon Keith needs to replaced by Jeremy Bridges and the team needs to chip help for LT Levi Brown. And it may be time to try Hadnot at LG or C. I am not averse to throwing him in there, even in the middle of games to see.

5. The team needs to release NT Bryan Robinson and realize that Watson and Williams are better players.

6. The team needs to replace Bill Davis with Donnie Henderson as DC. Henderson will dial up the pressure, which means turning AW into a blitz monster and covering TEs with more capable DBs.

7. The team needs to relegate Joey Porter into situational edge rusher, a la Bertrand Berry. Porter is a liablility otherwise.

8. The team needs to MOVE Dockett around to confuse the offense.

9. The team needs to get far more creative in what they do and how they prepare.

10. The team needs to start playing for broke...and go all out...leave it all on the field...pass when everyone thinks it's a run...and run whenever everyone thinks it's a pass...and on defense..dial up relentless pressure with everyone taking a part.

That's about all I have. Please pick me up in areas I have forgotten or overlooked. Kudos for CT for nailing this one.

I like the rookies...and I think that with patience they will impress.

But, I am very worried about the coaching. The players mailed in another one...and it's getting epidemic. The coaches are responsible and they have flat-out shat the bed this year thus far.

 

[Joe L]

Also Green couldn't get Warner to play well either. I give credit to Wiz and his system to turning Warner around and for succeeding with DG's players but now Warner and DG's players are gone for the most part. It's going to be interesting to see what Wiz can do with his system and his guys.

I'd venture to say Haley was more responsible for Warner than Whiz.

 

[Joe L]

I wonder if it was a combination of Warner and Haley?

God I miss Haley.

This.

The offense with Whiz calling the plays was nowhere near it was with Haley running the offense.

 

[Chopper0080]

This is the POST of THE DAY! KUDOS CT!

The thing is...Whiz allowed KW to make the pre-game prep and in-game adjustments...as simple as, "Hey, Breastie, they are double teaming Fitz, so next play I will hit you on your break on the intermediate post."

The bane of Whiz's decision making as a HC is how awful he's been at both not adjusting to the deficiencies of his o-line, as in chipping a DE who's killing the team (just like today...no adjustments...ever)...and most especially in having or showing no clue as to how to put in place a DC and a defensive system that is even remotely comeptent.

Plus, sadly, what we are seeing now is that Whiz and his staff don't have the gravitas to motivate the players. I said it previously and today is further confirmation, the players have very little respect for the coaches. There's very little accountability...and a player-friendly atmosphere that obviously does not promote player leadership.

I am just going to make this my post of the week...Game 4 Impressions: Chargers 41 Cardinals 10.

We all saw this debacle...we saw what we saw...let's just all chime in on CT's post about WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FROM HERE:

1. Anderson needs to be released. He's done here. He blew it. If he is starting next week Whiz has lost this team forever.

2. A move to add a veteran QB needs to happen, asap. With the bye week coming up he can be assimilated into the offense and be a good fallback option if Max Hall falters.

3. Max Hall needs to start for now...and hopefully for a long time to come...but give him audible options for a hot route of simple check to a sweep when the opponents are threating the A gaps. Play to Max's strengths...which Whiz obviously doesn't know yet, because his play calling for Max was pitifully awful.

4. Brandon Keith needs to replaced by Jeremy Bridges and the team needs to chip help for LT Levi Brown. And it may be time to try Hadnot at LG or C. I am not averse to throwing him in there, even in the middle of games to see.

5. The team needs to release NT Bryan Robinson and realize that Watson and Williams are better players.

6. The team needs to replace Bill Davis with Donnie Henderson as DC. Henderson will dial up the pressure, which means turning AW into a blitz monster and covering TEs with more capable DBs.

7. The team needs to relegate Joey Porter into situational edge rusher, a la Bertrand Berry. Porter is a liablility otherwise.

8. The team needs to MOVE Dockett around to confuse the offense.

9. The team needs to get far more creative in what they do and how they prepare.

10. The team needs to start playing for broke...and go all out...leave it all on the field...pass when everyone thinks it's a run...and run whenever everyone thinks it's a pass...and on defense..dial up relentless pressure with everyone taking a part.

That's about all I have. Please pick me up in areas I have forgotten or overlooked. Kudos for CT for nailing this one.

I like the rookies...and I think that with patience they will impress.

But, I am very worried about the coaching. The players mailed in another one...and it's getting epidemic. The coaches are responsible and they have flat-out shat the bed this year thus far.

If you start Max Hall against a Greg Williams defense you better have a run based game plan to eliminate the 3rd and long because he will eat Hall for breakfast otherwise. I think that I still start DA unless I am committed to running the ball 40 times in the game.

 

[Buckybird]

I agree with most all of what you say Mitch.

This season has the smell of some of the stinkers past. Can't score, can't stop anyone, longgggg season ahead!!! We can all keep sipping the red Kool-aid & believing all will work out, but we are what we are...bad!!! This team could quit & check out mentally depending on what happens in the next 3 weeks.

 

[CtCardinals78]

If you start Max Hall against a Greg Williams defense you better have a run based game plan to eliminate the 3rd and long because he will eat Hall for breakfast otherwise. I think that I still start DA unless I am committed to running the ball 40 times in the game.

There is no way you can go back to starting DA after today IMO. The change has been made for good or bad and hopefully Hall does well. With a rookie QB in, I would almost certainly expect to see more running.

 

[Derm]

Warner helped hide how terribel our coaching staff is. In this first season without Warner, we will truly see what Whisenhunt has.

Not looking good so far.

Well that hits the ****** statement of the day. You are f'ing kidding;poor play and execution with key injuries and key past players gone has exposed is team as a team in transition with major issues. But one player being able to cover for a bad coaching staff? Yeah, right sparky.

 

[slanidrac16]

This is the POST of THE DAY! KUDOS CT!

The thing is...Whiz allowed KW to make the pre-game prep and in-game adjustments...as simple as, "Hey, Breastie, they are double teaming Fitz, so next play I will hit you on your break on the intermediate post."

The bane of Whiz's decision making as a HC is how awful he's been at both not adjusting to the deficiencies of his o-line, as in chipping a DE who's killing the team (just like today...no adjustments...ever)...and most especially in having or showing no clue as to how to put in place a DC and a defensive system that is even remotely comeptent.

Plus, sadly, what we are seeing now is that Whiz and his staff don't have the gravitas to motivate the players. I said it previously and today is further confirmation, the players have very little respect for the coaches. There's very little accountability...and a player-friendly atmosphere that obviously does not promote player leadership.

I am just going to make this my post of the week...Game 4 Impressions: Chargers 41 Cardinals 10.

We all saw this debacle...we saw what we saw...let's just all chime in on CT's post about WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN FROM HERE:

1. Anderson needs to be released. He's done here. He blew it. If he is starting next week Whiz has lost this team forever.

2. A move to add a veteran QB needs to happen, asap. With the bye week coming up he can be assimilated into the offense and be a good fallback option if Max Hall falters.

3. Max Hall needs to start for now...and hopefully for a long time to come...but give him audible options for a hot route of simple check to a sweep when the opponents are threating the A gaps. Play to Max's strengths...which Whiz obviously doesn't know yet, because his play calling for Max was pitifully awful.

4. Brandon Keith needs to replaced by Jeremy Bridges and the team needs to chip help for LT Levi Brown. And it may be time to try Hadnot at LG or C. I am not averse to throwing him in there, even in the middle of games to see.

5. The team needs to release NT Bryan Robinson and realize that Watson and Williams are better players.

6. The team needs to replace Bill Davis with Donnie Henderson as DC. Henderson will dial up the pressure, which means turning AW into a blitz monster and covering TEs with more capable DBs.

7. The team needs to relegate Joey Porter into situational edge rusher, a la Bertrand Berry. Porter is a liablility otherwise.

8. The team needs to MOVE Dockett around to confuse the offense.

9. The team needs to get far more creative in what they do and how they prepare.

10. The team needs to start playing for broke...and go all out...leave it all on the field...pass when everyone thinks it's a run...and run whenever everyone thinks it's a pass...and on defense..dial up relentless pressure with everyone taking a part.

That's about all I have. Please pick me up in areas I have forgotten or overlooked. Kudos for CT for nailing this one.

I like the rookies...and I think that with patience they will impress.

But, I am very worried about the coaching. The players mailed in another one...and it's getting epidemic. The coaches are responsible and they have flat-out shat the bed this year thus far.

I agree with everything you say, Mitch.

This defense needs to commit to stopping the run. Do whatever it takes. Take away one aspect of the opposing teams offense. It appears we are guessing on defense and guessing wrong most of the time.

I was never a CP backer but at least he would try SOMETHING. It's so obvious Wilson is a liability in coverage. I'd sit Porter and play Wilson as a roving LB. I'd mix in some 5-2-5 comdinations. I'd drop linemen back in coverage. What I'm saying is I would TRY something.

Wasn't it Einstien who said the definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results?

It will be interesting to see how Hall fairs after a week of practice with the starters and a game plan suited for him.

 

[conraddobler]

I want a new OC who's good, Whis dosen't call plays well for this team, especially one without Warner, maybe in the past I would of been ok with it but he's regressing if anything.

I really miss Haley and Warner.

We need a new DC bad.

Look what KC is doing with a kick butt OC and DC.

 

[Duckjake]

I wonder how many people remember that the Cards had the #1 ranked passing offense in 2005. And still went 5-11. Worst red zone offense in history.

 

[Buckybird]

Worst red zone offense in history.

Yeah now we cant sniff the red zone.

Btw Duck, boy didn't the refs suck in the TX-OU game yesterday...they had to have been Okies. I really thought I was watching a Redbird officiated game

 

[Duckjake]

Yeah now we cant sniff the red zone.

Btw Duck, boy didn't the refs suck in the TX-OU game yesterday...they had to have been Okies. I really thought I was watching a Redbird officiated game

I'm just happy we didn't lose 41-10. Counting the days until Gideon graduates and we can have a great defense.