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Washington Post: Phoenix Has Become Valley of the Subsidy
Taxpayers Give $700 Million to Sports Venues
By Thomas Heath
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, February 27, 2004; Page D01

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An open house at the newly constructed Glendale Arena, built for the NHL Coyotes, drew long lines in January. It cost taxpayers $180

PHOENIX

In a former alfalfa field about 10 miles west of here, $250 million in public money is helping build a football stadium for the Arizona Cardinals -- a team with one winning season in the last 16. Across the street is the two-month-old Glendale Arena, built with $180 million in taxpayer funds and home to the NHL Phoenix Coyotes, who have failed to advance beyond the first round of the playoffs since arriving from Winnipeg in 1996.

Then there's baseball's Diamondbacks, who play in six-year-old Bank One Ballpark in downtown Phoenix, built with a $238 million assist from county taxpayers. The Diamondbacks won the World Series in 2001, but the team loses millions each year. Across the street from the baseball park is America West Arena, opened in 1992 with a $48 million public subsidy and home to the last-place Phoenix Suns, who haven't made a title run since Charles Barkley left after the 1995-96 season.

Across the Valley of the Sun, as Phoenix and its environs are known, municipalities have showered more than $700 million on sports stadiums and arenas over the last decade or so, creating one of the most modern and capable sports infrastructures in the country. It's the only metropolitan area in the country whose four professional sports teams play in separate, new facilities.

In championing the public-spending boom, state, regional and local officials hope to turn Phoenix into a truly major league city, a place that attracts Super Bowls, basketball Final Fours and all-star games that can boost the local economy and complement the area's burgeoning tourism industry. Along the way, they hope to make winners out of their historically lackluster professional sports franchises.

"As we grow as a state and as we're looking for ways to expand our economy and attract more people into Arizona, sports is an integral part of our formula," said Gov. Janet Napolitano. "Taxpayers will do better with this than without it."

But not everyone agrees that the money is worth it. Some citizens decry the construction as a waste of public funds, diverting revenues generated from sales, hotel and car rental taxes to undeserving teams -- particularly the long-suffering Cardinals -- and their wealthy owners and players.

"Buying a stadium for the Cardinals is not worth it," said Josh Ahlvin, 27, a Phoenix area retail manager. "The ownership is terrible."

"Being a taxpayer, why do I want to pay for something that the owner [of the Cardinals] doesn't want to pay for," said Chris Cafaro, 31, a probation officer from Queen Creek, south of Phoenix. "I try real hard to root for the Cardinals every year, but by the middle of the season I find myself booing them."

Urban affairs specialists say Phoenix has crammed too many teams and too many stadiums into the local economy, which doesn't create enough ticket-buyers from among the area's 3.5 million inhabitants as it is. The Cardinals draw the fewest fans by far in the NFL, with ticket sales of 36,062 per game last season. The Diamondbacks last year averaged 34,639 per game, a drop from 39,507 in 2002 and only 71 percent of the ballpark's capacity.

Mark Rosentraub is an urban affairs expert at Cleveland State University who sits on the board of that city's Gateway Project, which administers Gund Arena, home of the NBA Cavaliers, and Jacobs Field, the Indians' ballpark. He believes Phoenix may have overextended itself by separate facilities for football, baseball, basketball and hockey. On top of that, Rosentraub said, the region's high-profile college teams provide additional competition for fan interest.

"There's not enough wealth to sustain four professional sports teams, Arizona State's three major teams and the University of Arizona's two teams" in Tucson, Rosentraub said. "You add this into a small market and it's just not going to work. In five or six years it will hit. Meaning, you will have four teams that will be marginally competitive."

But supporters of the new sports facilities say the area is already benefiting. They point to last year's decision by NFL owners to name Phoenix the host of the 2008 Super Bowl -- in the new Cardinals' stadium, which promises to be one of the most modern ever, with a retractable, steel-and-fabric roof and a field that can slide in and out of the stadium like a cookie sheet

The annual Fiesta Bowl is already a fixture on college football's championship circuit. There's a good bet that the NHL all-star game will be visiting in the next few years, particularly since Wayne Gretzky became a part-owner of the Coyotes. There's even talk about an NCAA Final Four at the Cardinals' stadium, which is scheduled to open in 2006.

"We've gone from one million to 3.5 million people over the last 20 years, and the ballparks are part of the infrastructure of amenities that we needed," said Maricopa County Supervisor Mary Rose Wilcox, who helped lead the basketball and baseball projects. "We have the weather. We have the people. We're in the major leagues now."

Said Diamondbacks and Suns owner Jerry Colangelo: "The bottom line is this: With three and a half million people in this marketplace, four venues vying for suites, club suites and major marketing packages, it's a stretch in the short term. Long term, we will grow into the marketplace because our population will double in size in the next 15 to 18 years."

As of 2000, the city of Phoenix had 10,556 households earning more than $200,000 a year, according to the U.S. Census Bureau, compared with 6,036 in Denver, 1,234 in St. Louis and 1,318 in Cleveland, all cities with multiple professional sports teams. But some of those Phoenix high-income residents may live there only part of the year.

The area is headquarters to giant Swift Trucking, whose owner, Jerry Moyes, is a partner in the Coyotes. Honeywell, Motorola and American Express also have large presences in Phoenix.

Glendale Arena, a sparkling hockey palace that looms above the flat desert terrain 10 miles west of Phoenix, is filled with signage from Toyota, America West, GEICO, Subway and the Arizona Lottery. The Coyotes have leased 65 of its 89 luxury suites, according to a spokesman.

"Phoenix has housed multiple professional sports teams for years, and that hasn't been diluted," Napolitano said. "I assume that the owners, before they entered into these financial arrangements, did their own due diligence and were satisfed that . . . this was not only sustainable, but potentially moneymaking."

The three businessmen who own the Coyotes, Steve Ellman, Moyes and Gretzky, won what may be the best deal in professional sports from local officials in their enthusiasm for luring the team to Glendale from downtown Phoenix. The Coyotes paid just $40 million toward their $220 million hockey arena, and keep all of the revenue from the arena's club seats, luxury suites and stadium signage. The franchise pays only $500,000 a year in rent to Glendale. By contrast, the Washington Capitals receive almost no income from the MCI Center luxury suites and club seats, most of which goes to pay the mortgage on the privately built arena owned by Abe Pollin.

The Coyotes also hold the naming rights (yet to be sold) to the arena and manage the facility as well, allowing them to earn back most of their rent payment. The city gets $2.45 on every ticket sold and has obligated Ellman to develop the real estate surrounding the arena, which he pledges "will become the Tysons Corner of Phoenix."

"We did it to make Glendale more than a bedroom community," said Glendale Mayor Elaine Scruggs. "We invested in a $180 million building that we own. It's a catalyst."

The Cardinals' deal is a good one for its longtime owners, the Bidwill family, too. The team will move out of Arizona's State's aging Sun Devil Stadium in two years and move into its new facility. The new stadium will earn the Cardinals, who are putting up $120 million toward the stadium's $370 million cost, tens of millions in new revenues from luxury suites, club seats, signage and concessions.

The Cardinals, who moved to the Sun Belt from St. Louis in 1988, are betting the new stadium will reverse their fortunes. This winter, the team hired Dennis Green, the widely respected former coach of the Minnesota Vikings, to be their coach.

"In anticipation of new revenues, we've changed our business model and have gone out there and targeted nine free agents and signed seven of them," said Cardinals Vice President Mike Bidwill. "We are very hopeful Denny is going to be able to turn it around very quickly. You look at all the success stories in the league, and they are tied to the new stadiums. We are looking forward."

The construction of the stadiums and arenas didn't take place without a struggle. It took two referendums before the Cardinals' stadium won voter approval in 2000 for a countywide 1 percent hotel tax and 3.25 percent surcharge on rental car fees, administered by the Arizona Tourism & Sports Authority, to fund the new facility. It also took a lobbying campaign by the Cardinals, then-Republican governor Jane Hull and business leaders before the referendum passed, 52 to 48 percent.

Napolitano, a Democrat who took office after the Cardinals' stadium deal was approved, said the battle over the merits of the team's arrangement with local authorities was over. But she cautioned that the team no longer has any excuses, and will soon need to start showing results on its state-of-the-art playing field.

"The Cardinals have to establish some credibility," the governor said.

Staff researcher Julie Tate contributed to this report.
 

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I'm surprised the article didn't point out the Cards stadium funding are "tourist taxes". Then, they find two retards that live here bitching about the funding, when they haven't put one penny towards it.
 

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Originally posted by ajcardfan
I'm surprised the article didn't point out the Cards stadium funding are "tourist taxes". Then, they find two retards that live here bitching about the funding, when they haven't put one penny towards it.
They could easily find more than two......anyway the Cards stadium is the best plan for funding a stadium here in Arizona. Plenty of tourist and it doesn't upset our tax base. And the NFL in Arizona was well worth keeping by building the stadium. Most would have loved to see the Cards leave town but that just isn't going to happen baby.:thumbup:
 

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Originally posted by Pariah
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Present company excluded....not everyone in Arizona likes the Big Red. They are treated with disdain from nearly everyone in Mesa and the East Valley. 9 out of 10 guys in my office and the other offices I call on think of them as a B league team. Coach Green will change all of that.....because he can win and do it consistantly. I am a lifer as are most of you...but getting the support of the majority of sports fans in this town will take consistant winning.
 

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Originally posted by WizardOfAz
And replace them with......?!?
Thats just it....the Mormon population, as much as they like football, could care less for the NFL. They rarely attend a Sunday Game and with such a high population in Mesa the Team could leave and they wouldn't miss them. The grey hairs rarely attend unless there hometown team is playing the Cards. Winning is the only thing that fixes this. Everyone loves a Winner.
 

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The only way to get that many fans is to put a winning product on the field. The Valley has heard it before many times and now is of the "I'll believe it when I see it" mentality.

Once they prove they can consistant put a winning product on the field the fans will come back and begin to build up their loyality.
 

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I take the article as a compliment.

We used to be the only city in the country that had an NFL franchise playing in a college stadium, NOW we're the only city in the country with a venue for EACH of it's 4 major sports.

Boo-ya.

The Super Bowl in 2008 will more than pay the tab on the new venue, that the tourists are already paying for.

An article in the paper this week, listed 165 MLB players currently living in the Valley. They bring with them their BANK accounts, and SPENDING habits.

Many ex-Coyotes players KEEP their homes here too, after they get traded. The money stays in town.

It's all good.
 

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When we start winning fans will drive in bus. Remember the 98 Cards? The last 2 games of the season was sold out cause we have a chance of getting to the playoff. When we win they will come.
 

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I mean why should fans of this team not be skeptical though?

I have seen the changes over the last year but that doesnt mean I am completly believe everything has changed.

Winning cures all ills, but changing a perception or mentality of a football team and its community who have been through decades of futility doesnt happen overnight. You cant just expect every fan to say, "yeah things are changing lets go buy season tickets." It doesnt work like that.

What reason does any fan have to expect the best from the Bidwill's?

I see things changing, you see things changing, but you cant expect every fan in the valley who works hard for his/her money to just embrace the Cardinals overnight. The real perception change will take just as many years to rectify as it did to destroy.
 

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I'm very happy we got the stadium but it would be nice if over the years the Bidwill's would give the money back somehow to the community. If they trulely make 10s of millions of dollars a year on this deal they could pay the money back over time. I know the tourists were taxed mostly but hell we could use that money for something else too. If the Cardinals are going to be so profitable in the future I just wouldn't mind them giving back the money gradually is all.

Sports make so much money yet the public pays for a lot of it through taxes. They pay their players so much money and the NFL is so profitable that much of the taxes levied through the states could be payed back, at least over time. I know it creates jobs and attracts business. It would just be nice if they could do that without taxes or at least more as a loan being given out. I'm still peeved at the blackout rules. I mean we pay for the stadium and we don't even get to see the game if we can't make it to the game for some reason? The NFL makes a huge ammount of money, so do their owners and players. They could find a way to fund their stadiums themselves if they wanted to, or at least pay back loans over time.
 

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"Being a taxpayer, why do I want to pay for something that the owner [of the Cardinals] doesn't want to pay for," said Chris Cafaro, 31, a probation officer from Queen Creek, south of Phoenix."I try real hard to root for the Cardinals every year, but by the middle of the season I find myself booing them."

I think this is the most telling quote of the article. I belive that many fans really do feel this way, but just don't have the stomach to watch ALL season, or the fortitude to "come out" as Cards fans.

Two consecutive .500+ seasons will change all that.
 

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Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK


The real perception change will take just as many years to rectify as it did to destroy.

ah, see, here i disagree . . . well, kind of. yeah, the overall perception will take time to change, but just one winning season will bring closet fans out to the stadium. i am telling you, this state is just champin' at the bit to embrace an nfl football with the same fervor that we've seen for the suns in the past. two winning seasons and this will be cardinals territory.
 

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Originally posted by Ouchie-Z-Clown
ah, see, here i disagree . . . well, kind of. yeah, the overall perception will take time to change, but just one winning season will bring closet fans out to the stadium. i am telling you, this state is just champin' at the bit to embrace an nfl football with the same fervor that we've seen for the suns in the past. two winning seasons and this will be cardinals territory.


I agree with you, but I mean the actual perception of the entire franchise will take much longer. Have 2 winning seasons and yes fans will come out of the woodwork, follow that with 10 more years of losing seasons those same fans will vanish

In order to change the perception you need the fan base to stay with the team thru thick and thin. Think the Packers fans jump ship if the Packers had 3-4 or even 5 losing seasons? NO! They may bitch and want change but they will still sell out and support. That type of enviroment will take generations to come into existence.

Thats great to have 2-3 winning seasons and you will see a spike in attendence/support etc, but come 3-4 more years of futility, or a few years were the team has to purge for salary cap reasons, those same fans will jump ship. What does it take to keep that fan base of 55,000+ fans year-after-year?

In order to really instill pride in this team it will take residents of Arizona passing that pride down to their children, granchildren, etc. It takes an active commintent on part of the team to become part of the community in every way. The valley has to become synonymous with te Cards, and that takes time!
 

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Originally posted by LVCARDFREAK
I agree with you, but I mean the actual perception of the entire franchise will take much longer. Have 2 winning seasons and yes fans will come out of the woodwork, follow that with 10 more years of losing seasons those same fans will vanish

In order to change the perception you need the fan base to stay with the team thru thick and thin. Think the Packers fans jump ship if the Packers had 3-4 or even 5 losing seasons? NO! They may bitch and want change but they will still sell out and support. That type of enviroment will take generations to come into existence.

Thats great to have 2-3 winning seasons and you will see a spike in attendence/support etc, but come 3-4 more years of futility, or a few years were the team has to purge for salary cap reasons, those same fans will jump ship. What does it take to keep that fan base of 55,000+ fans year-after-year?

In order to really instill pride in this team it will take residents of Arizona passing that pride down to their children, granchildren, etc. It takes an active commintent on part of the team to become part of the community in every way. The valley has to become synonymous with te Cards, and that takes time!

i completely agree, but it's gonna be an uphill battle for the cards as the valley is still such a transient locale with peeps coming and going regularly. it's the kids born into the cardinals that will bear the responsibility of becoming packer-like fans. even all of us are pretty much converts from one team or another. and, as fanatical as we may be . . . for AZ cards fans at least . . . it's not in the blood yet. i fear if i never move back to AZ my children won't be cardinals fans. luckily, living in the oc they'd have no other team vying for their attention, so i could ply them w/ cards if i wanted, but i don't see myself staying here forever . . . oh, and i don't have kids yet (that i know of).
 

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Originally posted by ajcardfan
I'm surprised the article didn't point out the Cards stadium funding are "tourist taxes". Then, they find two retards that live here bitching about the funding, when they haven't put one penny towards it.

But... how will the building of a new stadium with tourist tax dollars bring tourists to your area, and that is what that money is intended to be used for. A SB would bring "tourists" but the Cardinals 10 games at home will not. Living in the South Florida area, the taxpayers are faced with this decison every year , it seems, and it has been proven every year that " tourist tax dollars, for a sports facility are a bad investment. That "tourist tax" trap is bad for any community. Local sports teams don't bring tourists. :bang:

P.S. Joe Robbie Stadium is the last of the facilities built with owner' s money. Arenas and ball parks are the biggest real estate scams going.
 

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Originally posted by Ouchie-Z-Clown
i completely agree, but it's gonna be an uphill battle for the cards as the valley is still such a transient locale with peeps coming and going regularly. it's the kids born into the cardinals that will bear the responsibility of becoming packer-like fans. even all of us are pretty much converts from one team or another. and, as fanatical as we may be . . . for AZ cards fans at least . . . it's not in the blood yet. i fear if i never move back to AZ my children won't be cardinals fans. luckily, living in the oc they'd have no other team vying for their attention, so i could ply them w/ cards if i wanted, but i don't see myself staying here forever . . . oh, and i don't have kids yet (that i know of).


Nicely said!

It is the kids, granchildren etc that bear the responsibility, but like you, I will take 2-3 winning seasons right now. Thats a good start!

Hopefully, with some winning comes more and more 'thick-and-thin' fans, eventually enough of them will make a solid fan base. The stadium and afew winning seasons is a good start.

Let somebody else being the NFL's whipping boy for a while!

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Originally posted by wallyburger
But... how will the building of a new stadium with tourist tax dollars bring tourists to your area, and that is what that money is intended to be used for. A SB would bring "tourists" but the Cardinals 10 games at home will not. Living in the South Florida area, the taxpayers are faced with this decison every year , it seems, and it has been proven every year that " tourist tax dollars, for a sports facility are a bad investment. That "tourist tax" trap is bad for any community. Local sports teams don't bring tourists. :bang:

P.S. Joe Robbie Stadium is the last of the facilities built with owner' s money. Arenas and ball parks are the biggest real estate scams going.

Well, the tourist department gets a big chunk to promote the state in advertising.

But, really, I don't give a crap if it brings more tourists or not. Some things are just worth having, not everything has to turn a huge profit. To me, a stadium and NFL team is one of those things.
 

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Originally posted by ajcardfan
Well, the tourist department gets a big chunk to promote the state in advertising.

But, really, I don't give a crap if it brings more tourists or not. Some things are just worth having, not everything has to turn a huge profit. To me, a stadium and NFL team is one of those things.

If I were to visit Arizona, how much would the tourist tax add to my hotel, meals and rental car . Seriously? It is getting huge and tourist discouraging down here. :confused:
 

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Originally posted by wallyburger
If I were to visit Arizona, how much would the tourist tax add to my hotel, meals and rental car . Seriously? It is getting huge and tourist discouraging down here. :confused:

for folks that come to phx to escape the weather (see the snowbirds) the tax will never become tourist-prohibitive. it's a great idea.
 

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Originally posted by Ouchie-Z-Clown
for folks that come to phx to escape the weather (see the snowbirds) the tax will never become tourist-prohibitive. it's a great idea.

Really. That is what people in South Florida thought , and now no one comes South of Disney World. All we get here are people from the Caribbean and South America and most of them don't bother to go back home.:shock:

The tourist tax dollars dried up and the stadiums and arenas, that those dollars built, don't bring 1 damn tourist. The tourist industry is what Florida relied on for so many years.:mad:
 

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Originally posted by wallyburger
Really. That is what people in South Florida thought , and now no one comes South of Disney World. All we get here are people from the Caribbean and South America and most of them don't bother to go back home.:shock:

The tourist tax dollars dried up and the stadiums and arenas, that those dollars built, don't bring 1 damn tourist. The tourist industry is what Florida relied on for so many years.:mad:

yeah, but south fla basically got trumped by disney world/epcot/etc. no such alternative exists for those that come to az. if anything, the growth that az has experienced/is experiencing may be what drives 'em away as they used to love az's quaintness.
 

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The tourists can all go away as far as I am concerned, I pay higher insurance rates, can't golf, can't go to Wal-Mart. Bunch of bastards
 

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Originally posted by Ryanwb
The tourists can all go away as far as I am concerned, I pay higher insurance rates, can't golf, can't go to Wal-Mart. Bunch of bastards

Do the tourists really come to Arizona to go to Wal - Mart?:D
 

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