we bleed card red but will you cheer for Q anyway?

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Its Cowboys and the Ravens in the SB. Who you rooting for? :)

Neither.

Even though Ray Lewis is a great player, he is the ultimate thug and I hope he never wins another Super Bowl.

Cowboys? No longer a Cardinals rival and no longer really all that relevant.

Additionally, I always hate seeing former Cardinals win Super Bowls especially the year after the go to a new team. Call it sour grapes but I could give a Plummer's ass.
 

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The 2nd Q took off the Cardinal uniform he entered a world in which I care nearly an infinite amount less about him.

No offense meant, just the way it is, I cheer for the Bird, the players are interchangeable and they make that abundantly clear that they are mostly about the money so to them I say, goes both ways.

Pat Tilman is the only former Cardinal I ascribe permanent player status to and he's not alive anymore.
 

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Neither.

Even though Ray Lewis is a great player, he is the ultimate thug and I hope he never wins another Super Bowl.

Cowboys? No longer a Cardinals rival and no longer really all that relevant.

Additionally, I always hate seeing former Cardinals win Super Bowls especially the year after the go to a new team. Call it sour grapes but I could give a Plummer's ass.

Do you want us to sign Joey Porter? Because he is just about the same level of "thug" as Ray Lewis.
 

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I never knew he was on trial in a double murder case. Huh, the things you learn every day.

No he wasnt nor did I imply that he was. But he has been shot himself at a bar in a late night altercation. He travels with a "posse" at times just like ray ray. Same one that was 6 deep when they attacked Levi Jones in a casino and overall promotes that image IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgniB0e_VE
 
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The 2nd Q took off the Cardinal uniform he entered a world in which I care nearly an infinite amount less about him.

No offense meant, just the way it is, I cheer for the Bird, the players are interchangeable and they make that abundantly clear that they are mostly about the money so to them I say, goes both ways.

Pat Tilman is the only former Cardinal I ascribe permanent player status to and he's not alive anymore.

That's the way i see it.
 

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No he wasnt nor did I imply that he was. But he has been shot himself at a bar in a late night altercation. He travels with a "posse" at times just like ray ray. Same one that was 6 deep when they attacked Levi Jones in a casino and overall promotes that image IMO.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwgniB0e_VE

My memory is sketchy but I seem to recall a murder in which ray lewis was the prime suspect (limo driver?) I think he got away with murder..
 

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My memory is sketchy but I seem to recall a murder in which ray lewis was the prime suspect (limo driver?) I think he got away with murder..

It was a guy in his posse that did the actual stabbing. Lewis helped get rid of evidence, etc.
 

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No! When he's out of the NFL sure...and when he plays any other team in the NFC West....till then I want every other team in the NFL to suck!
 

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Generally, I cheer for the team but wish the player well. If Q had conducted himself differently I'd be cheering for him a lot more. I hope he doesn't take every opportunity to stick it to the Cards in the media.
 

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I will not be cheering for him and hope he ends up a bust for the Ravens. I loved him early on but the last couple of years have showed a different side of him. He always battled on the field but his constant pity party everywhere else got old. I still cannot get the bad taste out of my mouth from when he turned his back on the team during the NFC Championship celebration. To me, that was pure disrespect for the team.
 

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I will not be cheering for him and hope he ends up a bust for the Ravens. I loved him early on but the last couple of years have showed a different side of him. He always battled on the field but his constant pity party everywhere else got old. I still cannot get the bad taste out of my mouth from when he turned his back on the team during the NFC Championship celebration. To me, that was pure disrespect for the team.
Absolutely, positively, dead-on! Once a player leaves the Cardinals, he's scum. Especially, one that whined, bitched & moaned as much as Boldin did. Most of you on the West coast have no idea how hateful the Ravens are. Led by "The Thug", the Ravens epitomize arrogance. Their fans have also taken on that personality. I actually like Harbaugh as a HC, but they still are led by Lewis & his antics. The area I live in has a combination of Eagles, Ravens & Steelers fans. The Steeler fans are by far the classiest & the Ravens fans are the least. Regardless of what team he went to, I wouldn't root for Boldin now. I hope his time in Baltimore is miserable, that his production sucks & that the Ravens go 4-12. The same for the other 2 turncoats. Good riddance & may your careers end in a forgetful manner. Thanks for what you did while you were Cardinals, but you're dog$hit now.
 

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Absolutely, positively, dead-on! Once a player leaves the Cardinals, he's scum. Especially, one that whined, bitched & moaned as much as Boldin did. Most of you on the West coast have no idea how hateful the Ravens are. Led by "The Thug", the Ravens epitomize arrogance. Their fans have also taken on that personality. I actually like Harbaugh as a HC, but they still are led by Lewis & his antics. The area I live in has a combination of Eagles, Ravens & Steelers fans. The Steeler fans are by far the classiest & the Ravens fans are the least. Regardless of what team he went to, I wouldn't root for Boldin now. I hope his time in Baltimore is miserable, that his production sucks & that the Ravens go 4-12. The same for the other 2 turncoats. Good riddance & may your careers end in a forgetful manner. Thanks for what you did while you were Cardinals, but you're dog$hit now.

I wonder where Raven fans get their class from? ;)
 
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I will definitely root for Q as long as he is not playing us. I already like the Ravens more than any AFC team because their defense is nasty, they have two ASU studs in Heap and Suggs, and to top it off their jerseys are badass. I told myself that if Q did get traded I'd love to see him play for Baltimore because his style of play fits the team's style of play perfectly and it just so happened that's where he went. As for Dansby and Rolle, I could care less how they play.
 

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I wonder where Raven fans get their class from? ;)

What's your point Shane? Am I not entitled to my opinion. If you want to still prostrate yourself at the altar of Q, then go right ahead. I obviously choose not to. Be careful who you insult my friend.
 

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What's your point Shane? Am I not entitled to my opinion. If you want to still prostrate yourself at the altar of Q, then go right ahead. I obviously choose not to. Be careful who you insult my friend.

My point was very clear. You alluded to the fact that Ravens fans are hateful and have no class. Sounds exactly like what you wrote about Q, Rolle and Dansby. Very hateful spiteful less than classy comments full bore. Maybe its not a team thing but an area thing maybe?

Just saying.
 

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My point was very clear. You alluded to the fact that Ravens fans are hateful and have no class. Sounds exactly like what you wrote about Q, Rolle and Dansby. Very hateful spiteful less than classy comments full bore. Maybe its not a team thing but an area thing maybe?

Just saying.

Shane, I never said that the Ravens fans were hateful. I said the Ravens team is hateful, led by none other than "The Thug". Their fans are arrogant & classless. Why do I say such things?? Maybe because I experienced it first-hand. Two years ago, I was there to watch the Cardinal / Raven game. I am NOT a loud or obnoxious fan, especially on the road. I had my older son Justin with me & my then 6 yr old son Joey. I had 2 weeks prior had a heart procedure done. I was given strict orders by my Doctor & WIFE to be on my best behavior. At halftime, without provocation, some drunken, classless RAVEN fan spit on my 6 yr old. A grown adult spitting on a 6 yr old. Shane, what would you call that?? When I stepped in, 5 or 6 of these rednecks came to his rescue. Justin was still up in his seat or it would have been a bloodbath. I have never felt so helpless. As a former bodybuilder/powerlifter, I am not a scrawny guy. But, because of my condition, I was forced to gather my stunned kid & walk away. The beer must have been cold, because we had numerous altercations throughout the day. You should ask my now 8 yr old son what team he dislikes the most. The Ravens!! We've been to Pittsburgh, Washington & even Philly and not been treated like that.

Justin lives in Maryland and goes to quite a few Raven games per season. I'm sure he'll agree that their fans are everything that I have stated. Furthermore, I didn't say anything hateful about Dansby, Rolle or Boldin. Is "turncoat" a hateful word? They chose to leave my Cardinal family, so I'm leaving them. Why would a Cardinal fan hope that they are successful elsewhere? The sports media would continue to belittle our franchise for letting them get away. I'm SICK of that crap. I hope Dansby makes 1 tackle all year. I hope Rolle gives up 65 td passes & I hope Boldin catches 3 passes. That's not hateful Shane. Hateful is what happened to my family on a sunny September day in Baltimore 2008!
 

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Shane, I never said that the Ravens fans were hateful. I said the Ravens team is hateful, led by none other than "The Thug". Their fans are arrogant & classless. Why do I say such things?? Maybe because I experienced it first-hand. Two years ago, I was there to watch the Cardinal / Raven game. I am NOT a loud or obnoxious fan, especially on the road. I had my older son Justin with me & my then 6 yr old son Joey. I had 2 weeks prior had a heart procedure done. I was given strict orders by my Doctor & WIFE to be on my best behavior. At halftime, without provocation, some drunken, classless RAVEN fan spit on my 6 yr old. A grown adult spitting on a 6 yr old. Shane, what would you call that?? When I stepped in, 5 or 6 of these rednecks came to his rescue. Justin was still up in his seat or it would have been a bloodbath. I have never felt so helpless. As a former bodybuilder/powerlifter, I am not a scrawny guy. But, because of my condition, I was forced to gather my stunned kid & walk away. The beer must have been cold, because we had numerous altercations throughout the day. You should ask my now 8 yr old son what team he dislikes the most. The Ravens!! We've been to Pittsburgh, Washington & even Philly and not been treated like that.

Justin lives in Maryland and goes to quite a few Raven games per season. I'm sure he'll agree that their fans are everything that I have stated. Furthermore, I didn't say anything hateful about Dansby, Rolle or Boldin. Is "turncoat" a hateful word? They chose to leave my Cardinal family, so I'm leaving them. Why would a Cardinal fan hope that they are successful elsewhere? The sports media would continue to belittle our franchise for letting them get away. I'm SICK of that crap. I hope Dansby makes 1 tackle all year. I hope Rolle gives up 65 td passes & I hope Boldin catches 3 passes. That's not hateful Shane. Hateful is what happened to my family on a sunny September day in Baltimore 2008!

I'm sorry that you and your son had to endure that. It is absolutely appalling. However even so I cant just lump all fans of one team into a particular category. I have seen many a Cards fan do some pretty disgusting things over the years.

Turncoat isnt the best phrase used to describe someone. However I don't think it fits in any of these cases. But I was mostly referring to you calling them all "dog ****" that is pretty hateful IMO. We all know the stats you wish upon them just aren't going to happen unless they all suffer some sort of major injury. Its almost as though you are wishing them ill will when you say that even though you don't actually say it. That's what I mean. No biggie.
 

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I won't watch a Ravens game because of Boldin, to be honest I don't watch much NFL football aside from the Cardinals but if I happen to see a Ravens game I will hope he does well.
 
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