Except for the Cardinals whose last effort with dual backs ended with them dead last in rushing yards, rushing yards per attempt, and rushing TDs.
Of course you could argue that Shipp and Arrington aren't exactly "threats".
We can't draft AP on Saturday.
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Except for the Cardinals whose last effort with dual backs ended with them dead last in rushing yards, rushing yards per attempt, and rushing TDs.
Of course you could argue that Shipp and Arrington aren't exactly "threats".
Different types of threats. Threats to our sanity.
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First: Given that his name is Adrian Peterson... AP is appropriate and understood, at least, on this board. Thomas' priority is to spend a day fishing with his Dad, and let the draft proceed in its own inexorable way. I can't judge your priorities in life, but I certainly appreciate his. Further, he's being followed around by an NFL network TV crew.
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In RB years, that's pretty old.
I like Edge, and think he has two years left in the tank. But, AP is a special talent. If he's there I think we have to take him.
And, don't give me this "but no one can run behind this line. it needs to be fixed!" I agree, but the improving the line isn't out of the question once Peterson is drafted.
For me, this isn't a knock on him--it's a plus.
Yes, it does show his priorities. Family is number one in his book. Nothing wrong with that. It's as it should be.
Card take Thomas? Great. Cards take AD? Great. It's when/if those guys aren't available--or worse, are passed on -- that's when I start getting worried.
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Fishing on draft day definitely sounds like something a Hog (Grimm) would have done back in the day. No problem with it at all.
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Well, that wasn't my point. However, we are paying Wilson 4.1m this year, 4.0m to Holt and 635k to Francisco, and Edge will cost 7.0m, Shipp 2.2m and JJ 960k. The RB's are about 1.5m more expensive. Given this relatively small difference in a 109m cap, I'm not uncomfortable with adding the cost of a #5 pick to the RB's total, as oppossed to the safeties... particularly for a projected very good running back like AP.
But we'd likely be jettisoning Shipp, while I think we'd probably keep all four safeties.
And, I don't think it's that out of line to be paying your RB corps more than your safeties.
Also, IMO, you shouldn't pass up talent in the draft based on your checkbook.
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You should if they don't have a line to run behind. The OL talent in the draft is good enough it makes sense for us to go that direction.
Just like Bobby Bethard said on Nfl total access last night " If the BPA is also a need, you take that player. Other than that you take the BPA" If Thomas and Peterson are on the board then the cardinals should take Thomas. If it were up to me, than i would take Adam Carriker, the best DE for the cardinals in this upcoming draft.
Not compared to AD it isn't. It's just not.
I like Thomas, and I'll understand if they go with him over AD (though I suspect at least one of the two will be gone)...heck, I'll even be pleased with the selection. But AD is THAT much better than the OL at the top of the draft that even with Edge on the roster you have to consider him.
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I guess i've changed my mind on this if Thomas is off the board and Peterson is avliable at number 5 then I say take him our oline did ok late in the season and James and Peterson would be a dangerous rb duo. But I say only take Peterson if Thomas is off the board because I still think we need to address the oline first.
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i think adrian peterson is the best player in this draft, including calvin johnson. if we walked away from back-to-back drafts with the players that i thought were the best QB prospect in years and the best RB prospect in years i'd be downright giddy. then slap our pro bowl wrs on top of 'em and i just might believe the cards had a chance to be mediocre in the near future. from there i'd just throw every other dollar and draft pick at oline and DEs.
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All of our new coaches have wanted to run the ball. Unfortunately, running the ball means we always third and long. I don't care who is the running back or if we have one two or three RBs. then we fall behind by a couple of TDs and we have to throw the ball to catch up. No blocking = No success. AP will not make us successful. An OT has a chance of making us successful.
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Am I the only person that realizes that there is more then 1 round in the draft?
Ugoh is a OT that fits in the Grimm mold and should be available in round 2
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While I appreciate your opinion, I have to disagree. One thing that I have to stress to you is that you MUST be able to run the ball effectively if you wnt to be successfull in this league. If anything, I think that Peterson's presence will help James. He would still be fresh in the fourth.
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Not to mention alot more wins.
No, but people don't want to hear that.
On a related note, weren't you shouting from the rooftops last year that we couldn't and wouldn't take a QB because our line was so bad and anyone playing behind it would be horrible?
PETERSON SAYS HE WON'T MISS TIME
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that running back Adrian Peterson says that he won't miss any time due to a collarbone that he re-injured during the Fiesta Bowl.
Per Schefter, Peterson says that he'll be able to fully participate in all offseason activities.
With that said, Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that Peterson's agent, Ben Dogra, concedes that Peterson might need surgery, which would knock him out of all offseason workouts.
Dogra says that the team that drafts Peterson will have to decide whether a plate should be surgically inserted into the site of the injury.
"It's not a foregone that he'll need the surgery," said Dogra. "It's only if their doctor thinks he requires it. That's why it hasn't happened yet. If they do plate it, doctors have assured us that he'll have only 4-6 weeks of down time, meaning that if he has it in May, he'll be back in time for camp.
"I have not heard from the Browns as to what they would do," Dogra said. "But one way or the other, he'll be ready for the season."
At least one team with whom we spoke (but who won't be drafting Peterson) thinks that surgery is not necessary. The key question is whether the Browns think the plate is needed and, if so, whether that's enough to get them to look elsewhere with the No. 3 overall pick.
If the Browns pass, the question then becomes whether another interested team -- such as the Cardinals at No. 5 or the Vikings at No. 7 -- answer both of those same questions in the affirmative. At some point, a team will decide either that he doesn't need surgery, or that they don't care about the effect of the surgery on his preparations for the 2007 season.
We think that this will happen at No. 12, at the very latest.
Adam Schefter of NFL Network reports that running back Adrian Peterson says that he won't miss any time due to a collarbone that he re-injured during the Fiesta Bowl.
Per Schefter, Peterson says that he'll be able to fully participate in all offseason activities.
With that said, Mary Kay Cabot of the Cleveland Plain Dealer reports that Peterson's agent, Ben Dogra, concedes that Peterson might need surgery, which would knock him out of all offseason workouts.
Dogra says that the team that drafts Peterson will have to decide whether a plate should be surgically inserted into the site of the injury.
"It's not a foregone that he'll need the surgery," said Dogra. "It's only if their doctor thinks he requires it. That's why it hasn't happened yet. If they do plate it, doctors have assured us that he'll have only 4-6 weeks of down time, meaning that if he has it in May, he'll be back in time for camp.
"I have not heard from the Browns as to what they would do," Dogra said. "But one way or the other, he'll be ready for the season."
At least one team with whom we spoke (but who won't be drafting Peterson) thinks that surgery is not necessary. The key question is whether the Browns think the plate is needed and, if so, whether that's enough to get them to look elsewhere with the No. 3 overall pick.
If the Browns pass, the question then becomes whether another interested team -- such as the Cardinals at No. 5 or the Vikings at No. 7 -- answer both of those same questions in the affirmative. At some point, a team will decide either that he doesn't need surgery, or that they don't care about the effect of the surgery on his preparations for the 2007 season.
We think that this will happen at No. 12, at the very latest.
http://www.profootballtalk.com/rumormill.htm
Peterson's agent confirms injury report
Posted by Mary Kay Cabot April 26, 2007 11:55AM
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The agent for Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson confirmed a report on SI.com Thursday that Peterson did re-injure his broken collarbone during the Fiesta Bowl -- but that even if he does require surgery, he'll be ready for training camp in July.
"All 32 teams have known about this since the Combine (in late February)," said agent Ben Dogra. "The significant thing is that Adrian went back for a re-check on March 30 and 31st and doctors said he was healing and doing remarkably well."
Dogra said it will be up to the team that drafts Peterson to determine whether or not they to do "plate" the injury, or have a metal plate inserted in the collarbone to stabilize it. Peterson is one of five players the Browns are considering at No. 3.
"It's not a foregone that he'll need the surgery," said Dogra. "It's only if their doctor thinks he requires it. That's why it hasn't happened yet. If they do plate it, doctors have assured us that he'll have only 4-6 weeks of down time, meaning that if he has it in May, he'll be back in time for camp."
Dogra said some teams have told him that they would probably let it heal on its own since it's doing so well. "I have not heard from the Browns as to what they would do," said Dogra. "But one way or the other, he'll be ready for the season."
An e-mail message sent to Browns general manager Phil Savage was not immediately returned.
Dogra said he does not expect the collarbone to affect Peterson's draft status. "I'm still confident he'll be among the top picks," said Dogra. "It's an upper-body injury, which is not as serious for a running back as a leg injury."
Peterson first broke the collarbone diving into the end zone in week 6 against Iowa State. He missed the rest of the regular season and returned for the Fiesta Bowl.
-- Mary Kay Cabot
http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/200...rms_injur.html
Posted by Mary Kay Cabot April 26, 2007 11:55AM
Categories: Breaking News, Browns
The agent for Oklahoma running back Adrian Peterson confirmed a report on SI.com Thursday that Peterson did re-injure his broken collarbone during the Fiesta Bowl -- but that even if he does require surgery, he'll be ready for training camp in July.
"All 32 teams have known about this since the Combine (in late February)," said agent Ben Dogra. "The significant thing is that Adrian went back for a re-check on March 30 and 31st and doctors said he was healing and doing remarkably well."
Dogra said it will be up to the team that drafts Peterson to determine whether or not they to do "plate" the injury, or have a metal plate inserted in the collarbone to stabilize it. Peterson is one of five players the Browns are considering at No. 3.
"It's not a foregone that he'll need the surgery," said Dogra. "It's only if their doctor thinks he requires it. That's why it hasn't happened yet. If they do plate it, doctors have assured us that he'll have only 4-6 weeks of down time, meaning that if he has it in May, he'll be back in time for camp."
Dogra said some teams have told him that they would probably let it heal on its own since it's doing so well. "I have not heard from the Browns as to what they would do," said Dogra. "But one way or the other, he'll be ready for the season."
An e-mail message sent to Browns general manager Phil Savage was not immediately returned.
Dogra said he does not expect the collarbone to affect Peterson's draft status. "I'm still confident he'll be among the top picks," said Dogra. "It's an upper-body injury, which is not as serious for a running back as a leg injury."
Peterson first broke the collarbone diving into the end zone in week 6 against Iowa State. He missed the rest of the regular season and returned for the Fiesta Bowl.
-- Mary Kay Cabot
http://blog.cleveland.com/sports/200...rms_injur.html
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