gamebird98
Hall of Famer
Guess it wasn't all coach Macs fault!
We Suck
- Thread starter Harpo
- Start date
And from what I have read the Chargers are in trouble and being picked to finish below 30th overall in the NFL...CardShark said:
I could not figure out the personnell goals for this team earlier this year and now I see that it still has made no sense...CardShark said:
Mac was a good coach with bad circumstances... I think now we have a lesser caliber coach who earlier in his carreer road the coat tails of some great players... What was his play off record? He is performing just about as I expected... Let's hope some chemistry builds between this group quick, players and coach alike...Gamebird98 said:
Renz
An Army of One
Funniest quote of the year! If last year's performance was the result of good coaching then Rich Kotite should be in the Hall of Fame.CardFan67 said:
I think most NFL people would agree with me, considering the only job Mac could get this year was as a position coach.
gamebird98
Hall of Famer
Isnt that all Fassel got this year....a position coach?...and didnt everybody want him to come here?
Renz said:
Renz
An Army of One
Spin it however you want. Mac was a terrible head coach.Shane H said:
Assistant head coach to Jeff Fisher with the Titans is hardly just a position coach!
Renz said:
Thats not spin!
Thats a fact!
Your the one claiming hes just a position coach not me. I will make you a bet that Mac has another HC job within 5 years?
Shane H said:
Former Cardinal Head Coaches since Coryell have a total of one season as Head Coach of another NFL team. Joe Bugel's 4-12 season with the Raiders.
That has to say something about the people the Bidwill's have hired to run the show on the field.
McGinnis should do what Stallings did. Go to the College game. Since that is 90% recruiting he'd do very well.
Duckjake said:
That may be true. I fully expect to see him in a HC position in the NFL again before he is done.
I agree I think he would be a perfect college coach too!
AZCARDINALS4EVA
Rookie
We Do Suck!
Oh man guys, first off, I drove down from the UofA, for this game, in fact i have been driving down for every game for the past 3 years since i left phoenix for the UofA. Tonights game was a big waste of tme, having to leave at half. We couldn't do anything, our Defense sucked, and special teams sucked and our offense couldnt score in the redzone. I hope this is just Dennis Green Teasing us!
Oh man guys, first off, I drove down from the UofA, for this game, in fact i have been driving down for every game for the past 3 years since i left phoenix for the UofA. Tonights game was a big waste of tme, having to leave at half. We couldn't do anything, our Defense sucked, and special teams sucked and our offense couldnt score in the redzone. I hope this is just Dennis Green Teasing us!
CaptTurbo
ASFN Icon
Shane H said:
I wont bet that but I bet he wont win.
Renz
An Army of One
Please. Mac is a glorified linebackers coach. Do you think Jeff Fisher consults with Mac about the defense or Mike Heimerdinger? His title as "assistant head coach" is only there to make his fall from head coach to position coach seem less precipitous.Shane H said:
As for Mac being a head coach again, I'll take that bet anyday. Mac will never be an NFL head coach again. If he ever really was.
Guys it's preseason other than the fact that Shawn King and kick coverage sucked, it really wasn't that bad.
NE got hammered yesterday as well, do they suck ?
NE got hammered yesterday as well, do they suck ?
clif
ASFN Addict
here are a couple of thoughts... first off Mac was a good guy. Head Coach??? He definetly had a poor coaching staff. I dont think there was any debate about that.
I thought Josh played very well, he just did not have any open receivers besides Freddie. He really can throw when he has time and someone to throw to. Here is one thing about depth. People say we dont have it which may be true, but I know one thing ... those guys would look a helluva lot better if they didnt have to play every snap. I mean gilmore and poole can certainly spell boldin or johnson or fitz OCCASIONALLY and not be too bad. Obviously they are not NFL starters, but they can make 1 or 2 catches a game.
Here is what I say about the season..REALISTICALLY!! What are the expectations of people for this team this year?? Think about it...we had 1 offseason. This team was 4-12 last year. Did we really think by signing 1 or 2 players everything would be so much better? Now before I go further, some of you might refer to DG's comment about going 10-6 and making the playoffs. I would say that he had to say that to create a curiosity in the team. It worked to stir a modest interest, but it never would have made a difference in whether or not the team improved. I would not draw conclusions about that being the sign of a ego other than a guy who knows he has alot more to overcome to turn this thing around, namely public perception.
One thing that I like about DG and I think will pay off in the long run..is the fact that he is not afraid to take a chance and go on a limb. He is not afraid to TRY people at different positions, something the last regime was reluctant to do. I mean again this team was 4-12. Is there anyone (besides boldin) that we can honestly say that is on the team or recently cut that would have made a huge difference in where the team finishes this year? Even boldin had 101 catches on a 4-12 team. So while the team is certainly more exciting when he is on the field, it did not make impact on whether the team won or lost.
Here is hoping he returns soon!!
I thought Josh played very well, he just did not have any open receivers besides Freddie. He really can throw when he has time and someone to throw to. Here is one thing about depth. People say we dont have it which may be true, but I know one thing ... those guys would look a helluva lot better if they didnt have to play every snap. I mean gilmore and poole can certainly spell boldin or johnson or fitz OCCASIONALLY and not be too bad. Obviously they are not NFL starters, but they can make 1 or 2 catches a game.
Here is what I say about the season..REALISTICALLY!! What are the expectations of people for this team this year?? Think about it...we had 1 offseason. This team was 4-12 last year. Did we really think by signing 1 or 2 players everything would be so much better? Now before I go further, some of you might refer to DG's comment about going 10-6 and making the playoffs. I would say that he had to say that to create a curiosity in the team. It worked to stir a modest interest, but it never would have made a difference in whether or not the team improved. I would not draw conclusions about that being the sign of a ego other than a guy who knows he has alot more to overcome to turn this thing around, namely public perception.
One thing that I like about DG and I think will pay off in the long run..is the fact that he is not afraid to take a chance and go on a limb. He is not afraid to TRY people at different positions, something the last regime was reluctant to do. I mean again this team was 4-12. Is there anyone (besides boldin) that we can honestly say that is on the team or recently cut that would have made a huge difference in where the team finishes this year? Even boldin had 101 catches on a 4-12 team. So while the team is certainly more exciting when he is on the field, it did not make impact on whether the team won or lost.
Here is hoping he returns soon!!
JeffGollin
ASFN Icon
Cmon guys this is preseason. Last year we were 4-0 and look where that got us. Preseason is where we fine tune the team.
Yes and no.
Preseason is preseason, but each game does give us a snapshot as to where we are at any point in time. Until we win a game, our 83 players are playing losing football.
I like to think the team, under Dennis' direction, will become better by the end of preseason. But expecting that this will definitely happen is similar to betting "on the cum."
Finally, this team needs more than "fine tuning." In my opinion, it is performing at no better than 60% of where it has to be in order to even be a .500 team.
I think Cardinal fans have the right to expect that the coaching change from Mac to Dennis should logically result in a better team than we had under Mac (Otherwise, why make the move?) So far, we haven't seen any evidence that the Cards will play better. Should this continue, the issue unfortunately will not be one of "whether" we should make another coaching change but "when."
But we're far away from being there yet. It may take Dennis half the season to right the ship and the balance of the season to get it sailing in the right direction at a decent rate of speed.
The "gut check" should come at at the end of the season and, in my opinion, be: "What kind of football are we playing?" If Coach Green has us finally playing better football, we should get off his case. But if we're not, I think we're all justified in doing whatever it takes to turn the team into a contender (including making still another coaching change).
But not til then.
Yes and no.
Preseason is preseason, but each game does give us a snapshot as to where we are at any point in time. Until we win a game, our 83 players are playing losing football.
I like to think the team, under Dennis' direction, will become better by the end of preseason. But expecting that this will definitely happen is similar to betting "on the cum."
Finally, this team needs more than "fine tuning." In my opinion, it is performing at no better than 60% of where it has to be in order to even be a .500 team.
I think Cardinal fans have the right to expect that the coaching change from Mac to Dennis should logically result in a better team than we had under Mac (Otherwise, why make the move?) So far, we haven't seen any evidence that the Cards will play better. Should this continue, the issue unfortunately will not be one of "whether" we should make another coaching change but "when."
But we're far away from being there yet. It may take Dennis half the season to right the ship and the balance of the season to get it sailing in the right direction at a decent rate of speed.
The "gut check" should come at at the end of the season and, in my opinion, be: "What kind of football are we playing?" If Coach Green has us finally playing better football, we should get off his case. But if we're not, I think we're all justified in doing whatever it takes to turn the team into a contender (including making still another coaching change).
But not til then.
Similar threads
Staff online
-
ShaneComin for you! -
Brian in MesaAdvocatus Diaboli