We Traded For a CB - Trayvon Mullen

[MadCardDisease]

He definitely fits the profile of what the Cardinals look for in a corner. Has solid speed and great length. Is physical in press coverage. Definitely fills a need. I feel a little bit better about CB but would like to see another guy brought in.

 

[TheCardFan]

Ah...fandom!

Raiders to trade Trayvon Mullen to Cardinals - ProFootballTalk

The new Raiders regime is letting go of another high draft pick from the previous regime.Las Vegas is trading cornerback Trayvon Mullen to Arizona in exchange for a conditional 2023 seventh-round pick, according to multiple reports.The conditional pick could become a sixth-round selection based...

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[GoldGloveschmidt]

Nothing wrong with this trade at all.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Interesting side note is that Lamar Jackson is his Cousin.

 

[Proximo]

as an optimist:

his 64 PFF coverage grade is 16 points higher than Marco Wilson's grade last year

Yeah, that's not saying much. Wilson was abombinal in the second half of the season - and looked just as bad this preseason.

Even though this guy is brand new I still hope he plays in front of Marco.

 

[unseenaz]

if people are puzzled as to why the raiders made this trade - we did good.

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[kerouac9]

Thinking about it, Mullen is the Raiders version of Byron Murphy.

Shown flashes, never been consistent enough, 4th year etc. Raiders not living in some fever dream where they pretend he's great though.

If anything Mullen has been better than Murphy so if you like Murphy you can't complain.

Dude Byron Murphy would get a ton more in trade value. He’s arguably the third-best player on the defense.

He’s the Raiders version of… like Troy Niklas maybe?

 

[mjb21aztd]

Hope he gets a bit of swatted passes maybe a int or 2...... please be better than Brandon Williams and alford

 

[bankybruce]

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[MadCardDisease]

Former teammate of Simmons.

 

[bankybruce]

if people are puzzled as to why the raiders made this trade - we did good.

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"Why are the Cardinals the team to always pick up good players like this for nothing?"

 

[bankybruce]

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[Buckybird]

Is physical in press coverage.

Which Joseph plays little of. He coaches too many soft zones where CBs play 7-10 yards off & bail which allows too many easy completions. You have watched them do this right? Just sayin

A High school QB could complete 60% of his passes against the Big Red

 

[bankybruce]

The good news is he got worse every season he’s been in the NFL. Krang will be happy to know his career QB rating when targeted is in the mid-80s.

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[football karma]

He’s the Raiders version of… like Troy Niklas maybe?

maybe (hopefully) the Raiders version of Alex Okeafor

never great, but good enough to play a long time in the NFL for good teams

was tempted to reference Kevin Minter as well

 

[Crimson Warrior]

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Keim is trying to change the narrative.

 

[reebokalone2001]

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talking about classs reunion.

 

[bankybruce]

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[Russ Smith]

Already checked. He's not terrible.

he's not Deion Sanders but he's pretty good the problem last year he was injured most of the season and when he did play he was playing hurt. Then he missed much of the offseason and camp so the new staff replaced him.

I looked at a Raider fan site and they were all saying you mean the best we're going to get is a 6th rounder for a starting CB.

He's better than what we have but not great

 

[kerouac9]

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LOLLLLL PFF.

Completion % when targeted:
2020: 55.9%
2021: 62.1%
2022: 62.5%

Passer rating when targeted:
2020: 78.3 (68 targets)
2021: 93.1 (87 targets)
2022: 84.2 (24 targets)

Here's what the FO annual had to say about him:

Mullen was a mainstay of offseason “Raiders 2022 Breakout Candidate” listicles, because someone had to be. Mullen showed some glimmer of promise against early-season opponents who were unwilling (Ravens) or unable (Steelers, Dolphins) to challenge defenses downfield before suffering a toe injury. He returned from injury just to get used as a launchpad by Tyreek Hill in Week 12, then reinjured his toe. Mullen could lose his scholarship if he loses his starting role: fourth cornerback Darius Phillips projects as a core special teamer and possible punt returner, and former Eagles bottom-of-the-roster survivor Cre’Von LeBlanc is the defensive back best suited to replace Hobbs if needed.

 

[Proximo]

Dude Byron Murphy would get a ton more in trade value. He’s arguably the third-best player on the defense.

He’s the Raiders version of… like Troy Niklas maybe?

I don't think he is third best, Budda, Thompson, and Watt should be the 3 best - and Simmons really should be 4th, but yeah maybe 5th.

But Byron Murphy is not much more than an average corner, Mullens really has performed at near his level.

Yes, that means our Defensive talent is really bad, that we only have 4 or 5 players better than average.

 

[BritCard]

Dude Byron Murphy would get a ton more in trade value. He’s arguably the third-best player on the defense.

He’s the Raiders version of… like Troy Niklas maybe?

LOL no. Fans have this weird perception of Byron Murphy that is WAY beyond his actual production.

Murphy

Games	Pass Coverage	Pass Rush	Tackles
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat	DADOT	Air	YAC	Bltz	Hrry	QBKD	Sk	Prss	Comb	MTkl	MTkl%
2019	21	ARI	LCB	33	16	16	1	112	78	69.6%	754	9.7	6.7	9	111.2	8.7	524	230	12	0	0	0.0	0	78	9	10.3%
2020	22	ARI	rcb	33	15	7	0	81	53	65.4%	538	10.2	6.6	2	92.5	9.6	296	242	34	1	1	2.0	4	51	8	13.6%
2021	23	ARI	LCB	7	16	16	4	98	64	65.3%	731	11.4	7.5	5	87.6	7.7	443	288	20	3	0	0.5

Mullen

Games	Pass Coverage	Pass Rush	Tackles
Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat	DADOT	Air	YAC	Bltz	Hrry	QBKD	Sk	Prss	Comb	MTkl	MTkl%
2019	22	OAK	RCB	27	16	10	1	68	38	55.9%	424	11.2	6.2	2	78.3	9.9	240	184	1	0	1	0.0	1	50	5	9.1%
2020	23	LVR	LCB/rcb	27	16	16	2	87	54	62.1%	620	11.5	7.1	5	93.1	9.4	412	208	0	0	0	0.0	0	64	10	13.5%
2021	24	LVR	lcb	27	5	5	1	24	15	62.5%	193	12.9	8.0	1	84.2	17.1	146	47	1	0	0	0.0

Troy Niklas? Mullen played and started 2 years before injury last year.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Like I said, I expect Alford to be the other after this unexpected one

Alford would be a post week 1 signing, so they won't have to guarantee his salary.

 

[kerouac9]

LOL no. Fans have this weird perception of Byron Murphy that is WAY beyond his actual production.

Murphy

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat	DADOT	Air	YAC	Bltz	Hrry	QBKD	Sk	Prss	Comb	MTkl	MTkl%
Games	Pass Coverage	Pass Rush	Tackles
2019	21	ARI	LCB	33	16	16	1	112	78	69.6%	754	9.7	6.7	9	111.2	8.7	524	230	12	0	0	0.0	0	78	9	10.3%
2020	22	ARI	rcb	33	15	7	0	81	53	65.4%	538	10.2	6.6	2	92.5	9.6	296	242	34	1	1	2.0	4	51	8	13.6%
2021	23	ARI	LCB	7	16	16	4	98	64	65.3%	731	11.4	7.5	5	87.6	7.7	443	288	20	3	0	0.5

Mullen

Year	Age	Tm	Pos	No.	G	GS	Int	Tgt	Cmp	Cmp%	Yds	Yds/Cmp	Yds/Tgt	TD	Rat	DADOT	Air	YAC	Bltz	Hrry	QBKD	Sk	Prss	Comb	MTkl	MTkl%
Games	Pass Coverage	Pass Rush	Tackles
2019	22	OAK	RCB	27	16	10	1	68	38	55.9%	424	11.2	6.2	2	78.3	9.9	240	184	1	0	1	0.0	1	50	5	9.1%
2020	23	LVR	LCB/rcb	27	16	16	2	87	54	62.1%	620	11.5	7.1	5	93.1	9.4	412	208	0	0	0	0.0	0	64	10	13.5%
2021	24	LVR	lcb	27	5	5	1	24	15	62.5%	193	12.9	8.0	1	84.2	17.1	146	47	1	0	0	0.0

Troy Niklas? Mullen played and started 2 years before injury last year.

Yeah sorry. Murphy’s stats — especially playing primarily out of the slot where teams are much more efficient — are more impressive to me.

Murphy wouldn’t get a second-round pick back today if you tried to trade him, but you’d get more than the pile of used practice jerseys we gave up for Mullins.

 

[kerouac9]

I don't think he is third best, Budda, Thompson, and Watt should be the 3 best - and Simmons really should be 4th, but yeah maybe 5th.

But Byron Murphy is not much more than an average corner, Mullens really has performed at near his level.

Yes, that means our Defensive talent is really bad, that we only have 4 or 5 players better than average.

I’d put him even with Thompson after Baker and a healthy Watt. No worse than fourth-best.

Maybe once the season is over Simmons passes him—I hope so—but not today.