Week 10 Cardinals Off-season: 03/13/2023-03/19/2023

[BritCard]

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[RON_IN_OC]

@Shane did you call into Moving The Chains a little bit ago?

 

[Shane]

@Shane did you call into Moving The Chains a little bit ago?

No sir

 

[RON_IN_OC]

No sir

Oh, thank God...cuz that Shane was not smart with his Cardinals questions. haha

 

[Shane]

Oh, thank God...cuz that Shane was not smart with his Cardinals questions. haha

Well sure sounds like me then anyways haha

 

[PACardsFan]

True, many of us will be dead of old age before the Cardinals are done rebuilding (for the umpteenth time) or get a ring.

Just an FYI, and I’ve been around a long time, I don’t recall the Cardinals ever going through a legit rebuild. Personally, I’m happy to finally see it happen.

 

[kerouac9]

Just an FYI, and I’ve been around a long time, I don’t recall the Cardinals ever going through a legit rebuild. Personally, I’m happy to finally see it happen.

Obviously you're going to redefine what "rebuild" means, but the shift from Whis to Arians was pretty profound:

POS	Whis (2012)	Arians (2013)
QB	Kolb/Skelton	Carson Palmer
RB	Wells/Stephens-Howling	Rashard Mendenall/Andre Ellington
WR1	Fitzgerald	Fitz
WR2	Andre Roberts	Floyd
WR3	Michael Floyd	Roberts
TE	Jeff King/Rob Housler	Rob Housler/Jim Dray
LT	D'Anthony Batiste	Eric Winston
LG	Daryn Colledge	Daryn Colledge
C	Lyle Sendlein	Lyle Sendlein
RG	Adam Snyder	Paul Fanaika
RT	Bobby Massie	Bradley Sowell
DE	Darnell Dockett	Darnell Dockett
DT	Dan Williams	Frostee Rucker
DE	Calais Campbell	Calais Campbell
OLB	O'Brien Schofield	John Abraham
ILB	Paris Lenon	Karlos Dansby
ILB	Daryl Washington	Daryl Washington
OLB	Sam Acho	Matt Shaugnessy
CB	Patrick Peterson	Patrick Peterson
CB	William Gay	Jerraud Powers
CB	Greg Toler	Tyrann Mathieu
FS	Kerry Rhodes	Rashad Johnson
SS	Adrian Wilson	Yeremiah Bell

That's 13 of 24 starting roles turned over. We might seen even more.

Man, what an exercise in Guy Remembering this was.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Who?

Definitely not somebody worth giving up trade assets for. Unless you can trade a 2050 7th rounder or something. (which you can't)

 

[Ronin]

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[Ronin]

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[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

How Odegard sees the 3 LBs.

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Alright! We got 54.5% of a defense!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

I think Cam Thomas and Sanders can be decent to good NFL players and I saw nothing last year that proves that notion wrong.

I also think you take Anderson Jr. too.

Wouldn’t they both be undersized playing DE, even in a 4-3?

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Does anyone have a link to anyone saying that Anderson isn't in the same class as Bosa?

I'm not expert but in my opinion he's as good. Bosa's injury history aside he played in the Big10 vs Anderson in the SEC. The quality of tackles is much higher in the SEC in my opinion.

In 3 years played Bosa had 17.5 sacks, and 29 TFL's in 29 games.

In 3 years played Will Anderson has 34.5 sacks and 58.5 TFL's in 41 games

Anderson has twice the sacks and twice the TFL's in only 40% more games in a better division.

I’m ouchie and I endorse this Britcard post.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

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I can honestly say I don’t know a single one of those new additions.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Wouldn’t they both be undersized playing DE, even in a 4-3?

Cam Thomas wouldn't be, no.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Does anyone have a link to anyone saying that Anderson isn't in the same class as Bosa?

I'm not expert but in my opinion he's as good. Bosa's injury history aside he played in the Big10 vs Anderson in the SEC. The quality of tackles is much higher in the SEC in my opinion.

In 3 years played Bosa had 17.5 sacks, and 29 TFL's in 29 games.

In 3 years played Will Anderson has 34.5 sacks and 58.5 TFL's in 41 games

Anderson has twice the sacks and twice the TFL's in only 40% more games in a better division.

Look at his tape. He doesn't have nearly the bend of either, nor is he explosive.

Google McShay and Kiper talking about this draft.

 

[DVontel]

Look at his tape. He doesn't have nearly the bend of either, nor is he explosive.

Google McShay and Kiper talking about this draft.

You say this like Bosas have the bend of Von Miller.

Anderson’s bend isn’t rare, but neither was/is the Bosas. They dominate with phenomenal technique, hand usage, & very good athleticism.

 

[DVontel]

lmao I can already see Krang saying “Will Anderson isn’t even that good” if we were to pass on him.

 

[BritCard]

Look at his tape. He doesn't have nearly the bend of either, nor is he explosive.

Google McShay and Kiper talking about this draft.

I don't agree with this at all.

FMcShay and Kiper are wrong more than right. The opinion of a couple of guys is nothing.

Bosa and Anderson have very different styles. Bosa has never been a bend guy. He's all power and technique. He has elite hands that stop tackle getting a hold and an array of moves to win. He's not going to win with speed and bend round the edge so much.

Anderson is in the same class coming out. Probably the best prospect since Bosa.

 

[Stout]

Wouldn’t they both be undersized playing DE, even in a 4-3?

Cam Thomas can play 4-3 DE, but Sanders is too light by far.

 

[BritCard]

Are new Uni's on the way?

Fanatics custom any name jerseys are normally $170. Cards (and I think only Cards from what I can see) are reduced to $130. In the UK they are down to £45 (about $55). Again the only ones reduced to this price.

I've checked random other teams and all seem to be regular price except the Cards.

 

[RON_IN_OC]

Cam Thomas can play 4-3 DE, but Sanders is too light by far.

Can Sanders add 10-15 pounds? Thomas was listed at 270 and Sanders 256.

 

[Krangodnzr]

lmao I can already see Krang saying “Will Anderson isn’t even that good” if we were to pass on him.

LMAO no I think he is far and away the best player in this draft.

 

[TruColor]

Are new Uni's on the way?

Fanatics custom any name jerseys are normally $170. Cards (and I think only Cards from what I can see) are reduced to $130. In the UK they are down to £45 (about $55). Again the only ones reduced to this price.

I've checked random other teams and all seem to be regular price except the Cards.

That's a good sign that they may be coming.

There have been hints for the past couple of seasons that new uniforms were in the works. This would be a perfect time to do a reset on the unis.

 

[Shane]

That's a good sign that they may be coming.

There have been hints for the past couple of seasons that new uniforms were in the works. This would be a perfect time to do a reset on the unis.

Is it though? With the dregs of a roster they’re gonna be putting on the field is raising your ticket prices an average of 25% and then wanting your fan base to go out and spend a bunch of money on new digs the best course of action?