Week 18 (vs SEA) Snap Counts and Thoughts

[kerouac9]

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[Arz101]

Something is off with defensive snap count image? @kerouac9

 

[kerouac9]

Nine players playing three-quarters of the defensive snaps is really all you need to know about Vance's opinion of his personnel.

 

[Chopper0080]

Nine players playing three-quarters of the defensive snaps is really all you need to know about Vance's opinion of his personnel.

and it has been that way for a while. Again, Vance does not give one crap about the actual player. 30+ Corey Peters and Chandler Jones in game 17 of an 18 week season. peters plays the most snaps by DL and Jones over 85%. Full Ivan Drago...if he dies, he dies.

 

[Chopper0080]

Also, apparently Vance disagreed with people who said Zaven played better last week. 8 snaps this week.

 

[juza76]

Collins just 8 snaps after being praised by Vance Joseph
Then u see the slow golden being completely ineffective with 43 snaps
This is how to develop talented young faster players?
Give him a chance to play more, then u know what he can offer and moreover he can learn

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Humphries had the worst game of his career. Not an opportune time to do so.

 

[Chopper0080]

The other hilarious piece here is Gardeck.

Gardeck season stats on 173 reps.

23 tackles
1 TFL
4 QB hits
100% completions allowed 3 of 3
15 blitzes
2 hurries
2 QB knockdowns
4 Pressures
8% missed tackle %.

Zaven on 220 snaps

25 tackles.
1 TFL.
57% comp rate allowed w/ 3 PDs.
9 blitzes.
1 hurry.
1 pressure.
7.4% missed tackle %.

 

[Chopper0080]

We put the bigger guy in coverage more and blitzed him less. We also played the guy with the higher missed tackle % when we were struggling with tackling.

 

[Ronin]

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[kerouac9]

The other hilarious piece here is Gardeck.

Gardeck season stats on 173 reps.

23 tackles
1 TFL
4 QB hits
100% completions allowed 3 of 3
15 blitzes
2 hurries
2 QB knockdowns
4 Pressures
8% missed tackle %.

Zaven on 22 snaps

25 tackles.
1 TFL.
57% comp rate allowed w/ 3 PDs.
9 blitzes.
1 hurry.
1 pressure.
7.4% missed tackle %.

I mean this is fun, but it makes me wonder why the 1st round pick isn't playing better than the UDFA coming off a catastrophic knee injury?

 

[RON_IN_OC]

The other hilarious piece here is Gardeck.

Gardeck season stats on 173 reps.

23 tackles
1 TFL
4 QB hits
100% completions allowed 3 of 3
15 blitzes
2 hurries
2 QB knockdowns
4 Pressures
8% missed tackle %.

Zaven on 22 snaps

25 tackles.
1 TFL.
57% comp rate allowed w/ 3 PDs.
9 blitzes.
1 hurry.
1 pressure.
7.4% missed tackle %.

I'm no math genius, but how does Zaven have 25 tackles, with only 22 snaps? Has he tackled someone, let them up and then tackled them a 2nd time, a few times?

 

[Bkbobo]

I'm no math genius, but how does Zaven have 25 tackles, with only 22 snaps? Has he tackled someone, let them up and then tackled them a 2nd time, a few times?

Maybe how Lee had 2 fumbles on that mis-punt yesterday

 

[kerouac9]

By my count Collins has 217 defensive snaps on the season. I think that's what he means.

 

[Chopper0080]

I'm no math genius, but how does Zaven have 25 tackles, with only 22 snaps? Has he tackled someone, let them up and then tackled them a 2nd time, a few times?

220

 

[Chopper0080]

I mean this is fun, but it makes me wonder why the 1st round pick isn't playing better than the UDFA coming off a catastrophic knee injury?

Because Vance doesn't understand he can play Zaven Collins in a pass rush role that he had Gardeck pegged for once Collins can't seem to pick up the role Vance had for Collins. Vance would rather just toss Collins to the side than change his plan.

 

[wit3card]

Like I said on the game thread, Vance has a strange concept...

And it seems like his personel decisions are ... strange as well

 

[RON_IN_OC]

220

220, 221, whatever it takes.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

It’s a testament to how bad borders was yesterday that he stood out so much—for all the wrong reasons—playing only 31% of the defense of snaps.

 

[dreamcastrocks]

Because Vance doesn't understand he can play Zaven Collins in a pass rush role that he had Gardeck pegged for once Collins can't seem to pick up the role Vance had for Collins. Vance would rather just toss Collins to the side than change his plan.

Yep. It is what I like the least about Vance.

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Also, apparently Vance disagreed with people who said Zaven played better last week. 8 snaps this week.

Hey! He (8) outsnapped walker (3)!

 

[Ouchie-Z-Clown]

Collins just 8 snaps after being praised by Vance Joseph
Then u see the slow golden being completely ineffective with 43 snaps
This is how to develop talented young faster players?
Give him a chance to play more, then u know what he can offer and moreover he can learn

He praised dimukeje last week too then gave him a whopping ZILCH this week.

 

[juza76]

He praised dimukeje last week too then gave him a whopping ZILCH this week.

Last week our run defense was much better with Collins dumkeje and gardeck instead of golden