Wells likely to be matched ----Cards will wait on other free agents.

[Pariah]

Can you trade a RFA? I think you can...and if so, we could just tell the Bills that we are going to match unless we get better compensation.

I don't think you can do that.

 

[joeshmo]

I don't think you can do that.

Actually you can. And it has been done in the past.

 

[sundevil04]

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i think we could match and then work a sign and trade deal, if we match we have his rights i dont see any reason we couldnt trade him then
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[Pariah]

Actually you can. And it has been done in the past.

Who and when? I don't doubt you, just curious.

 

[joeshmo]

Who and when? I don't doubt you, just curious.

Not sure who or when, hasnt been done for a while I beleive. But I am positive on this.

 

[TheCardFan]

Not sure who or when, hasnt been done for a while I beleive. But I am positive on this.

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Chiefs | Hall Acquired Via Trade with Titans - from www.KFFL.com
Tue, 5 Apr 2005 10:27:34 -0700

The Kansas City Chiefs have traded an undisclosed 2005 NFL Draft choice to the Tennessee Titans for DE Carlos Hall, who was a restricted free agent.

 

[seesred]

Bottom line Wells set his market value by going to the Bills. It really didn't matter what tender we gave him, even the high tender was lower than the Bills offer. Now it's up to us to decide are we going to meet his market value? IMO the naswer will be a very strong yes. Most of you that are in the keep Wells camp have already laid out the many, many reasons why. I would be shocked to see this young lineman go.

GBR
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[Snakester]

It sounds to me that we are going to match the offer so Wells get a big pay day and we get a guy that is just coming into his own. I think he fits best at center, but he may remain at left guard. We know he is a good pass blocker and that he is a position and wall off run blocker. He's a decent lineman. Better than Milford Brown that much I am sure of. I think we will be overpaying him, but we made the mistake of not giving him a higher tender and now we have to pay for it.

 

[sundevil04]

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Bottom line Wells set his market value by going to the Bills. It really didn't matter what tender we gave him, even the high tender was lower than the Bills offer. Now it's up to us to decide are we going to meet his market value? IMO the naswer will be a very strong yes. Most of you that are in the keep Wells camp have already laid out the many, many reasons why. I would be shocked to see this young lineman go.

GBR
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if we would have given him the highest rfa tender of 1.5 mil we would have recieved the bills 1st round draft pick as compensation for not matching the bills offer (in which case they would not have extended an offer) instead of their 6th round pick in exchange for the low tender of 712,000 that we offered
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[BigRedArk]

if we would have given him the highest rfa tender of 1.5 mil we would have recieved the bills 1st round draft pick as compensation for not matching the bills offer (in which case they would not have extended an offer) instead of their 6th round pick in exchange for the low tender of 712,000 that we offered

I dunno maybe I am thick in the head? If the Cards didn't want Wells they would have never tendered him an offer to begin with. Seems like what kind of compensation for him they would have gotten on a failure to match is moot now.

 

[sundevil04]

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I dunno maybe I am thick in the head? If the Cards didn't want Wells they would have never tendered him an offer to begin with. Seems like what kind of compensation for him they would have gotten on a failure to match is moot now.

why?
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[BigRedArk]

why?

Because the Card's wanted to keep him to begin with. Seems like it doesn't matter if they had low, medium, or high balled the offer to him because they seemingly wanted him to begin with. Now that they say they will match it seems to me it becomes even more moot. Seems like they really wanted him all along and just wanted the Bills to do the negotiating for him as mentioned previously.

 

[Renz]

I didn't know if this had been posted yet.

Wells Meets With Cardinals
Kate Brandt
azcardinals.com

Last Friday, the Buffalo Bills tendered an offer sheet to Cardinals restricted free agent guard Reggie Wells. On Monday, Wells visited with Cardinals Vice President of Football Operations Rod Graves and Head Coach Dennis Green to discuss his future with the Cardinals organization.

“We talked about Reggie’s commitment and his feelings about staying with the Arizona Cardinals,” said Graves following the meeting. “We also talked about expectations and the direction of the program.”

Wells was Arizona’s first selection in the sixth round (177th overall) of the 2003 NFL Draft. He started every game for the Cardinals in 2004 after making his first career start in the dramatic 2003 season finale vs. Minnesota. The four-year offensive lineman out of Clarion State started nine games for the Cardinals at left guard in 2005 before suffering a broken ankle at Detroit on November 13th and being placed on injured reserve two days later.

“I felt I was playing pretty solid last year and the main goal is to definitely get everything back to where it was if not better than where it was before,” said Wells of his play in 2005. “I’ll be ready as early as possible but I’ll definitely be ready for camp.”

Arizona has the right to match the Bills offer and retain Wells. However, if the Cardinals elect not to match the offer, they will be compensated with a sixth round draft choice, the round in which they originally selected Wells in the 2003 draft.

“One way or another it is going to work out,” Wells stated. “Unless somebody is really unhappy, I don’t think anybody necessarily wants to pick up and move from somewhere they have been for three years. If it comes down to that I know that I have been treated with nothing but respect and kindness around here and I’ll understand that. But if it works out, I see big things in the future here.”

The Cardinals continue to work on making improvements to the offensive line this offseason with new position coach Steve Loney leading the way. Wells seems to feel like that is an added bonus.

“Coach Loney has been around the system for a while,” said Wells. “He was one of the guys that worked me out in college so I have some love for coach in that respect. Every year since Coach Green has been here he has been willing to do whatever it takes to be successful and I think that is important. There comes a point where it is time for the players to play ball and I think this season is going to be a big showing of that.”

Restricted free agents are players who have completed three accrued seasons of service and whose contracts have expired. They have received qualifying offers from their old clubs and are free to negotiate with any club until April 21, at which time their rights revert to their original club.

If a player accepts an offer from a new club, the old club will have the right to match the offer and retain the player. If the old club elects not to match the offer, it may receive draft-choice compensation depending on the level of the qualifying offer made to the player.

The signing period for unrestricted free agents began March 11 and concludes on July 22 (or the first scheduled day of the first NFL training camp, whichever is later). The signing period for restricted free agents also began March 11 but concludes on April 21.

“I feel it was a very positive meeting,” concluded Graves. “We’ll evaluate our decision today and expect to have an announcement soon in respect to us matching the offer he received in Buffalo.”

 

[MastersofCombat]

Graves said. “But unless there is something bizarre in the contract (language), we’ll expect to have him back.”

Bizarre? How about next time offer him something during season of 7-8million rather than the open market of 17milllion. NOt that much changes in 5 months

 

[joeshmo]

Bizarre? How about next time offer him something during season of 7-8million rather than the open market of 17milllion. NOt that much changes in 5 months

That is assuming he would have even excepted that 7-8 Mill offer which is doubtfull especially in a weak OL FA market, and a cap increase from 85.5 to 102 Mill.

 

[sundevil04]

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Because the Card's wanted to keep him to begin with. Seems like it doesn't matter if they had low, medium, or high balled the offer to him because they seemingly wanted him to begin with. Now that they say they will match it seems to me it becomes even more moot. Seems like they really wanted him all along and just wanted the Bills to do the negotiating for him as mentioned previously.

but of we would have offered the high or mid level option for wells the bill would have risked us letting him go and giving up as much as a 1st rd draft pick for doing so, they wouldnt have taken that risk and we would have another year to judge wells for 1-1.5mil. we could work a long term deal during the year if we wished
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[BigRedArk]

but of we would have offered the high or mid level option for wells the bill would have risked us letting him go and giving up as much as a 1st rd draft pick for doing so, they wouldnt have taken that risk and we would have another year to judge wells for 1-1.5mil. we could work a long term deal during the year if we wished

Perhaps unless the Bills really wanted him. Then they may have bettered the mid or high level and we would have gotten higher than a 6th round pick for him then if they chose not to match. Which makes my point that it is moot it seems to me. Either the Cards wanted him or they didn't. If they didn't they wouldn't have made him an offer and he would have been free to sign with another team at no compensation.

 

[sundevil04]

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Perhaps unless the Bills really wanted him. Then they may have bettered the mid or high level and we would have gotten higher than a 6th round pick for him then if they chose not to match. Which makes my point that it is moot it seems to me. Either the Cards wanted him or they didn't. If they didn't they wouldn't have made him an offer and he would have been free to sign with another team at no compensation.

but the fact that we are going to match their offer (so they say at least) says that we do want him and i believe we would have been beter off giving the mid or high level option, we would have had him for another year at 1-1.5 mil and another year to work out a long term deal IF he performs well instead of giving him a long term deal and HOPING he performs well. if someone was willing to extend an offer we would have the choice between matching or taking a 3rd rd pick instead of matching or taking a 6th rd pick, all for a 300k bigger risk
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[spanky1]

but the fact that we are going to match their offer (so they say at least) says that we do want him and i believe we would have been beter off giving the mid or high level option, we would have had him for another year at 1-1.5 mil and another year to work out a long term deal IF he performs well instead of giving him a long term deal and HOPING he performs well. if someone was willing to extend an offer we would have the choice between matching or taking a 3rd rd pick instead of matching or taking a 6th rd pick, all for a 300k bigger risk

The arguement is moot......as the old expression goes, "you can pay me now or you can pay me later".

Might as well take the cap hit this year....we have a few players to re-sign next year (Dockett, Hayes, perhaps extend Dansby, etc. etc.).

His contract will equate to chicken feed after two years.

 

[sundevil04]

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how is that moot, if you can have a player at half price for a year to judge his talent and see if he is becoming what we think he can you wouldnt want it??? it would leave and extra mil or so in the cap this year to throw towards another fa, we dont have much left that 1-1.5mil could be the difference between getting another guy we want and letting him go elsewhere. we'd be better off paying wells next year when we have TONS of cap space. and who kinow maybe the bills would have been crazy enough to tender an offer at the mid level and risk a higher draft pick
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[BigRedArk]

how is that moot, if you can have a player at half price for a year to judge his talent and see if he is becoming what we think he can you wouldnt want it??? it would leave and extra mil or so in the cap this year to throw towards another fa, we dont have much left that 1-1.5mil could be the difference between getting another guy we want and letting him go elsewhere. we'd be better off paying wells next year when we have TONS of cap space. and who kinow maybe the bills would have been crazy enough to tender an offer at the mid level and risk a higher draft pick

What if he has a great year this year and his price really goes up? Then would you be saying (one year from now) we should have signed him to a long-term contract in 2006 when we could have had him cheap?

 

[spanky1]

how is that moot, if you can have a player at half price for a year to judge his talent and see if he is becoming what we think he can you wouldnt want it??? it would leave and extra mil or so in the cap this year to throw towards another fa, we dont have much left that 1-1.5mil could be the difference between getting another guy we want and letting him go elsewhere. we'd be better off paying wells next year when we have TONS of cap space. and who kinow maybe the bills would have been crazy enough to tender an offer at the mid level and risk a higher draft pick

We've had three years to judge his talent already.....and the coaching staff already know what they have in him.

Buffalo just forced us to react to the reality of his worth.

If he were to hit the UFA market next year, I would expect that his price tag would have gone through the roof. This contract could turn out to be a godsend in a year or two.

Sorry sundevil04, like it or not, we are done in FA for all intents and purposes this year....although we might still have some tweaking happen after the draft as Green et al decide on what might still be out there to fill in the blanks.

Re-signing Warner and Wells (doesn't matter if they were our players or not, they still have to count as FA signings no matter how you interpret things), picking up James, Clancy and Brown constitutes a solid FA period for us IMO.

 

[BigRedArk]

We've had three years to judge his talent already.....and the coaching staff already know what they have in him.
Buffalo just forced us to react to the reality of his worth.

If he were to hit the UFA market next year, I would expect that his price tag would have gone through the roof. This contract could turn out to be a godsend in a year or two.

Exactly. The coaching staff and FO should know what they have in him by now or at least a good idea of it. His price could go up next year if he has a good one this year.

 

[sundevil04]

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We've had three years to judge his talent already.....and the coaching staff already know what they have in him.

Buffalo just forced us to react to the reality of his worth.

If he were to hit the UFA market next year, I would expect that his price tag would have gone through the roof. This contract could turn out to be a godsend in a year or two.

Sorry sundevil04, like it or not, we are done in FA for all intents and purposes this year....although we might still have some tweaking happen after the draft as Green et al decide on what might still be out there to fill in the blanks.

Re-signing Warner and Wells (doesn't matter if they were our players or not, they still have to count as FA signings no matter how you interpret things), picking up James, Clancy and Brown constitutes a solid FA period for us IMO.

did you just get back from luch with denny and graves?
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[sundevil04]

Go

Exactly. The coaching staff and FO should know what they have in him by now or at least a good idea of it. His price could go up next year if he has a good one this year.

...or he could fall on his face like he has in the past, when did this love affair with wells start on this board he has proven to be nothing but average at best
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