What’s a prospect that has been mocked to us you really don’t want?

[pinetopred]

Buc

Bucannon was forced into being the smallest linebacker in the NFL by necessity. They even gave it a new name, since it didn't make sense. ($ backer)

Simmons will be one of the biggest linebackers in the NFL the day he gets drafted. Faster, stronger and bigger than Buc by a lot. I liked Deone, but he was a super SS that never got to play there by the "Draft Em and Change Their Position" squad in the front office.

Size does not make an ILB just my opinion Simmons just isnt nearly that tough he is a wing guy which is fine in today's NFL but people need to stop acting like he is anywhere near as good near the line of scrimmage I've watched to many really good safeties that take on and shed he is a specialty player on the edges not an ILB

 

[Krangodnzr]

No not really. He was and still is considered a raw project.

Says you.

That's not what NFL teams are saying.

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

If I had to choose one it would be Jeudy.

Congratulations on being called out on social media by one of the best players on the team. That was impressive

 

[Krangodnzr]

Congratulations on being called out on social media by one of the best players on the team. That was impressive

?

 

[AZman5103]

Simmons ran a 4.39.

He's not making it to #8. If the Giants don't take him at #4, someone will trade up ahead of us to get him.

He is going to be the next Brian Urlacher.

 

[Finito]

Says you.

That's not what NFL teams are saying.

says everybody dude. Stop trying to act like he was in the conversation for best o lineman all year cause he wasn’t. It was Thomas and Wirfs, Wills came and now it’s Becton. He’s far from a perfect dominate player he’s a project. Don’t fall in love with the combine look at the tape.

he had by far the worst technique of the other 3 and it’s not close. Just look at any draft profile by any of your “experts”. Bad hands top the list

 

[Timm Rosenbach]

?

Drake called out Walter “Mitch” Mitchell

 

[Solar7]

Drake called out Walter “Mitch” Mitchell

But you wrote to Harry...

 

[Krangodnzr]

says everybody dude. Stop trying to act like he was in the conversation for best o lineman all year cause he wasn’t. It was Thomas and Wirfs, Wills came and now it’s Becton. He’s far from a perfect dominate player he’s a project. Don’t fall in love with the combine look at the tape.

he had by far the worst technique of the other 3 and it’s not close. Just look at any draft profile by any of your “experts”. Bad hands top the list

LOL I HAVE looked at the tape. That's why I specifically talked about the Notre Dame game. I was talking about Becton before the combine, you would know that if you actually paid attention to my posts.

And that's why I dont like Thomas much...I looked at the tape!

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mekhi-becton?id=32194245-4381-4547-3cf4-9d445d134d9a

No mention of "bad hands". A guy with as many pancake blocks as Becton doesnt usually have bad hands.

https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3....adsm=false&p.tcm=#000&p.bgc1m=#EAEAEA&sr=amp

No mention of bad hands. Starting to see a trend?

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/mekhi-becton/WccGuYhcMG

This report says his hands are really effective. Sometimes inconsistent though, but nothing like the hyperbole you are spouting. Do I need to go on? Sure. I have some time.

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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/all-aboard--the-mekhi-becton-hype-train-is-leaving-the-station

I have watched a lot of tape on all of the top tackles, and not just the highlight tapes.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

says everybody dude. Stop trying to act like he was in the conversation for best o lineman all year cause he wasn’t. It was Thomas and Wirfs, Wills came and now it’s Becton. He’s far from a perfect dominate player he’s a project. Don’t fall in love with the combine look at the tape.

he had by far the worst technique of the other 3 and it’s not close. Just look at any draft profile by any of your “experts”. Bad hands top the list

He's also not experienced enough in pass protection. Louisville runs the ball a whole lot. If I'm drafting an OT in the first rd, he will be experienced in & good in both. That's not to say Becton can't turn out to be good, because I believe he can, just needs good NFL coaching. You can't teach size, he's massive & ran a 5.01 in the 40. I do agree with you in the fact he's raw, but only raw in pass protection. He will go early in this draft.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

LOL I HAVE looked at the tape. That's why I specifically talked about the Notre Dame game. I was talking about Becton before the combine, you would know that if you actually paid attention to my posts.

And that's why I dont like Thomas much...I looked at the tape!

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mekhi-becton?id=32194245-4381-4547-3cf4-9d445d134d9a

No mention of "bad hands". A guy with as many pancake blocks as Becton doesnt usually have bad hands.

https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001098476/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-2020-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-10?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url=story&zoneKeys=s1=story&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr=top-50-draft-prospects;plyr=joshua_jacobs&p.ct=Top+50&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=#000&p.bgc1m=#EAEAEA&sr=amp

No mention of bad hands. Starting to see a trend?

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/mekhi-becton/WccGuYhcMG

This report says his hands are really effective. Sometimes inconsistent though, but nothing like the hyperbole you are spouting. Do I need to go on? Sure. I have some time.

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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/all-aboard--the-mekhi-becton-hype-train-is-leaving-the-station

I have watched a lot of tape on all of the top tackles, and not just the highlight tapes.

When he gets his hands on a player, that player ain't gettin loose lol.

 

[Heucrazy]

Drake called out Walter “Mitch” Mitchell

Harry isn’t Mitch. Different screen names and everything. Lol

 

[Finito]

LOL I HAVE looked at the tape. That's why I specifically talked about the Notre Dame game. I was talking about Becton before the combine, you would know that if you actually paid attention to my posts.

And that's why I dont like Thomas much...I looked at the tape!

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mekhi-becton?id=32194245-4381-4547-3cf4-9d445d134d9a

No mention of "bad hands". A guy with as many pancake blocks as Becton doesnt usually have bad hands.

https://amp.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000001098476/article/daniel-jeremiahs-top-50-2020-nfl-draft-prospect-rankings-10?networkId=4595&site=.news&zone=story&zoneUrl=url=story&zoneKeys=s1=story&env=&pageKeyValues=prtnr=top-50-draft-prospects;plyr=joshua_jacobs&p.ct=Top+50&p.adsm=false&p.tcm=#000&p.bgc1m=#EAEAEA&sr=amp

No mention of bad hands. Starting to see a trend?

https://thedraftnetwork.com/player/mekhi-becton/WccGuYhcMG

This report says his hands are really effective. Sometimes inconsistent though, but nothing like the hyperbole you are spouting. Do I need to go on? Sure. I have some time.

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https://thedraftnetwork.com/articles/all-aboard--the-mekhi-becton-hype-train-is-leaving-the-station

I have watched a lot of tape on all of the top tackles, and not just the highlight tapes.

If you think this kid is a finished product then that’s all I need to know. It’s just kind of odd that I can’t find his name at the top of any of the mock drafts from these experts that came out around December. Hmm.

But you know what your probably right he’s been in the conversation all year maybe I just missed it. Hey can you do me a favor? Can you look up all the “experts” and see where they had him in all the first versions of there mocks around December? Or when the college season ended? I’m just having a hard time finding him idk maybe it’s me.

https://www.nfl.com/prospects/mekhi-becton?id=32194245-4381-4547-3cf4-9d445d134d9a

They grade him at 6.4 not exactly a ringing endorsement. No mention of hand? It’s all hands on his weakness lol.

• Throws himself off-balance when loading up punch

• High hands diminish leverage at point of attack

• Needs to get length involved in the block sooner

• Needs to cinch and control rather than shoving down blocks/kick-outs

Listen yes he is massive, but he has a long ways to go. His technique is horrible and this is the NFL. Your not going to get by for long just trying to be a better athlete than everyone else especially at that position. Guys like Mack, Miller and Jones can stack moves on top of moves to get to the QB.

The good news is you can teach technique. The bad news is everything I’ve read tells me this kid struggles with weight and that means he might not be the hardest worker and that’s actually kind of natural for guys his size

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

has Becton played RT? As we saw with DJ at RT, it's different than playing LT. At least Wirfs and Wills have played RT and played it well.

The guy I wouldn't want is Kinlaw. Top 10, you want special talent and, while he's good, I don't see him being a difference maker.

 

[BritCard]

has Becton played RT? As we saw with DJ at RT, it's different than playing LT. At least Wirfs and Wills have played RT and played it well.

The guy I wouldn't want is Kinlaw. Top 10, you want special talent and, while he's good, I don't see him being a difference maker.

Yeah he's played RT.

Its not something anyone should be concerned about. Tackles switch sides all the time thier early years.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Its not something anyone should be concerned about. Tackles switch sides all the time thier early years.

I realize that but many struggle with the switch, like Humphries did, if they haven't previously played on the opposite side.

 

[juza76]

I realize that but many struggle with the switch, like Humphries did, if they haven't previously played on the opposite side.

Humphries at the start of his nfl career was bad in both sides, if a left tackle is supposed to be good shouldn't struggle in other side
Its like if a left hand qb struggle to throw at the right side, if struggle with that he is not good at all

 

[BritCard]

I realize that but many struggle with the switch, like Humphries did, if they haven't previously played on the opposite side.

Hump was not really worse at RT than he was at LT. He was bad at both.

In his 13 games at RT he allowed 7 sacks and a 68.5 rating.

It took him 2 seasons to play 14 more games at LT. He allowed 5 sacks and a 72 rating.

Allowing for natural growth and 2 years of study its about the same.

 

[TheCardFan]

Really don't want DT Brown.

One trick pony (strength) and poor lateral mobility. His one trick/strength will be neutralized in the NFL and run stuffers are easy to find in FA.

 

[juza76]

Really don't want DT Brown.

One trick pony (strength) and poor lateral mobility. His one trick/strength will be neutralized in the NFL and run stuffers are easy to find in FA.

Finally
His strength will be limited in the nfl considering his lack of agility(8.22 3cone drill is very mediocre, worst number among defensive linemen )
DT with not super athletic attributes and over 320 pounds are not worth a top 15 consideration, and it's been displayed in the recent draft history

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Hump was not really worse at RT than he was at LT. He was bad at both.

In his 13 games at RT he allowed 7 sacks and a 68.5 rating.

It took him 2 seasons to play 14 more games at LT. He allowed 5 sacks and a 72 rating.

Allowing for natural growth and 2 years of study its about the same.

I'm just going by what I saw. He struggled much more at RT, he admitted difficulty with the switch because footwork, etc. was the opposite, and he wasn't facing the elite pass rushers that a LT faces week in week out. Not a big deal.

I just want a guy that's played the position before instead the usual Cardinals picking a guy in round 1 and trying to change his position year 1 like they have multiple times in the past.

 

[DVontel]

I'm just going by what I saw. He struggled much more at RT, he admitted difficulty with the switch because footwork, etc. was the opposite, and he wasn't facing the elite pass rushers that a LT faces week in week out. Not a big deal.

I just want a guy that's played the position before instead the usual Cardinals picking a guy in round 1 and trying to change his position year 1 like they have multiple times in the past.

Rare agreement.

 

[AZCrazy]

So no love for Becton then?

Seems like some posters are equating him to Herman Johnson from a few years ago. Did that guy ever even see the field?

 

[juza76]

So no love for Becton then?

Seems like some posters are equating him to Herman Johnson from a few years ago. Did that guy ever even see the field?

But they are totally different from an athletic standpoint
Just the size Is the same
Johnson run a 40 closer to 6 seconds
Becton 5.10
Becton has been a much better college player, wasnt very much tested as pass blocker but as a run blocker may be considered one of the best in the recent years

 

[TheCardFan]

So no love for Becton then?

Seems like some posters are equating him to Herman Johnson from a few years ago. Did that guy ever even see the field?

Why is Becton considered at top 15 pick while Johnson was drafted in round 5?

Same thing could be said for Orlando Brown Jr.