What are the differences between Quan and Fitz?

[azdad1978]

I wish training camp is upon us

 

[vikesfan]

I wish training camp is upon us

Football offseason is the longest most excruciating time of year. The other sports start up pretty fast but football... Imagine how much worse it would be with no draft. And then once the season hits it over pretty quick 17 weeks.
Maybe abscence does make the heart grow fonder.

I can't wait. This year out to be double the fun for me with 2 teams to cheer on.

 

[CardShark]

I thought Boldin was pretty much Moss scary last year. He couldn't be covered. If we had a seasoned quality QB last year I think Boldin would have been even better utilized.

Blake was seasoned. Seasoned, cooked and done!

 

[azdad1978]

Blake was seasoned. Seasoned, cooked and done!

Bye bye Leon

 

[Redmark]

i think both may have the chance to become terrel owens good, moss is the most physically gifted receiver i think that has ever played. i think i have to agree with vikesfan in how much a talent moss actually is.

that said, two terrell owens on one team (without the attitude) would be amazing on this team.

I think TO is the right benchmark for "Q". I think of Fitz, although admittedly, I haven't seen him play much, more in the mold of a Rob Moore. #85 once had nearly 1600 yards and 10 TDs with Jake Plummer in his second season. He had the most acrobatic coordination of feet and hands particularly near the sidelines that I have ever seen. He and Boomer Esaison were so much on the same page, it was like Rob was an extension of Boomers left hand. Moore was a HOF caliber player whose career was cut short and whose accomplishments were minimized because he played on some bad teams with the exception of the 1998 Cards.

 

[Russ Smith]

I think TO is the right benchmark for "Q". I think of Fitz, although admittedly, I haven't seen him play much, more in the mold of a Rob Moore. #85 once had nearly 1600 yards and 10 TDs with Jake Plummer in his second season. He had the most acrobatic coordination of feet and hands particularly near the sidelines that I have ever seen. He and Boomer Esaison were so much on the same page, it was like Rob was an extension of Boomers left hand. Moore was a HOF caliber player whose career was cut short and whose accomplishments were minimized because he played on some bad teams with the exception of the 1998 Cards.

The problem I always had with Rob was his inability to "finish" plays. he seemed to go down too easily after the catch, I can't tell you how many times he got taken down inside the 5 yard line when other guys find a way to get in. And for all his size and leaping ability, he wasn't that good on the fade either(admittedly Jake didn't throw that ball well at all at that time in his career).

Rob was a VERY talented player but I always felt like he "should" have put up better numbers than he did.

 

[Cheesebeef]

The problem I always had with Rob was his inability to "finish" plays. he seemed to go down too easily after the catch, I can't tell you how many times he got taken down inside the 5 yard line when other guys find a way to get in.

The greatest example of that was that game back in 1998 when we had that huge comeback against Dallas - Plummer throws that prayer int he air with like 25 seconds left and Moore comes down with it - he makes a great move back towards the sideline and all he has to do is get beyond one tackle to score to tie the game and he gets nailed at the 6 - then of course came Frank Sanders dropping a TD in the back of the endzone and the infamous Pass Interference No-Call - but great players get in the endzone on that first play - I really hope Fitz isn't another Rob Moore - you need true greateness when you draft at 3 - and I wouldn't put Moore in that category.

 

[Chopper0080]

I feel that Boldin is a tad tougher over the middle, and gets a little more yards after catch. He catches the ball in stride and goes upfield with more wiggle than Fitz.

Fitz gets upfield better. He always seems to create seperation and make impossible catches. That being said, he doesn't seem to catch and run much. This could be because of the quality of qb that he had in college or that he was consistantly triple covered. Fitz excells at catching bad balls with his size and balance. I say balance because he is always control of his body and so can break back for a bad ball and take it away from the defender.

All I an say is that is a great situation for the cardinals and their passing game.

 

[Russ Smith]

The greatest example of that was that game back in 1998 when we had that huge comeback against Dallas - Plummer throws that prayer int he air with like 25 seconds left and Moore comes down with it - he makes a great move back towards the sideline and all he has to do is get beyond one tackle to score to tie the game and he gets nailed at the 6 - then of course came Frank Sanders dropping a TD in the back of the endzone and the infamous Pass Interference No-Call - but great players get in the endzone on that first play - I really hope Fitz isn't another Rob Moore - you need true greateness when you draft at 3 - and I wouldn't put Moore in that category.

Yep, that was the play I had in mind although it happened over and over with Rob. Very good player but you never saw him carry a guy into the endzone.

Fitz doesn't remind me of Moore at all but I haven't seen him play enough to dispute that comparison. The guy Fitz reminds me of so far, is a faster Cris Carter, one of those guys who always seemed to come up with the ball in traffic.

 

[Redmark]

Rob Moore take continued

Not to belabor the point, Russ and Cheese, but, what the hey, its 5am and I've had my first sip of java and I'm feeling a bit confrontational.

As I said I have not seen Larry Fitzgerald play other than some highlight catches and maybe half of a couple of games. I think Stout raised the same concerns in another thread, can he take it the distance once he catches it or will we have to be content with leaping, diving, spectacular catches that sometimes end up in the endzone? I don't know, but I do know I would be very happy with the combo of a Terrell Owens (aka Anquan Boldin) and a Rob Moore (played by Fitz).

Everyone recalls the failed comeback from 0-28 against Dallas. Wasn't Sanders the star in that game with like 10 catches for nearly 200 yards? On the play where Rob got caught by a DB with the angle on him, Metcalf made a terrific block, to spring him for a few more yards after he got up after catching the pass. The guy was out of gas as he'd just run a fly pattern on the previous play. So what! He didn't score a 70 yd TD to win the game. He put them in position to win and got Robbed by the officials on the very next play, blowing what should have been a 35-35 tie going to OT. I've watched it many times and can't fault Rob for his play and effort.

Do you remember a comeback win in Philly where he came off the bench injured to make a diving endzone catch to beat the Eagles? I remember many such plays. He was a gem of a player and the best thing Buddy Ryan ever did for the Cardinals. He was even better when Boomer was the QB for that 1 record setting season. Someone who has access to the record book, please look up where he ranks all-time in receptions, yards, avg gain and TDs.

Off the top of my head, I'd rank Moore as one of our top 5 receivers since the 60's along with Roy Green, Dave Williams (another one no one remembers), Mel Gray and John Gilliam. I hope Boldin and Fitz will be viewed in the same class at the end of their careers.

If Fitz turns out to be some combination of Chris Carter and Randy Moss, you won't find me complaining.

 

[Bobcat]

Boldin is God. Fitz is trying to become God.

No Boldin IS God and Fitz is the Son of God...!!!

Allan