What do Peterson backers say now?

[Brian]

Who would you rather have: Staley (insert left tackle here) and AP or Brown and Edge?

If you said Brown and Edge you are crazy. AP as the starter behind our line would outgain golden-teeth, 19 yards-is-my-best-carry-all-year everyday and twice on the all important Sunday.

 

[Heucrazy]

Who would you rather have: Staley (insert left tackle here) and AP or Brown and Edge?

If you said Brown and Edge you are crazy. AP as the starter behind our line would outgain golden-teeth, 19 yards-is-my-best-carry-all-year everyday and twice on the all important Sunday.

Is that based on comparing all of AP's NFL stats to Edge's?

 

[D-Dogg]

Who would you rather have: Staley (insert left tackle here) and AP or Brown and Edge?

If you said Brown and Edge you are crazy. AP as the starter behind our line would outgain golden-teeth, 19 yards-is-my-best-carry-all-year everyday and twice on the all important Sunday.

Brown and Edge, and pick up a mid-round back next year in a rich RB draft.

We'll see if AP even plays this season....who knows?

Do you have an issue with Edge, Harley? He's a grinder back...he's not a homerun threat and never really was. Neither was Emmitt Smith and he's the alltime leading rusher...consistency is key. With a decent oline, Edge will give us wins...with a crappy oline he gave us damn near 1200 yards which is UNHEARD of in AZ.

I like Staley, but he's a project, not a day one starter. Levi starts...I'd love to have Staley AND Levi...but RB is a luxury. Let us win some games before we start entertaining luxuries...and there are luxuries to be had next draft...

 

[AZBALLER]

Last year's 5th pick, AJ Hawk, signed to a 6 year, $37.5 million dollar contract. I fully expect Brown to wind up in or around the same price range.

I wouldn't be surprised to see a 7 for $35 million deal. So, in that situation, yes it was a wash.. A 15 million dollar wash.

Really?

So we're looking at deflation instead of inflation when it comes to NFL contracts this year? Has that ever happened before? Come on buddy, that's a joke right?

 

[Diamondback Jay]

Point was, he's still going to come at a substantial discount over the price paid out to Davis. I've never been one who's good with numbers, but I'd still be surprised if he gets a dime over 40 mill.

 

[Brian]

Brown and Edge, and pick up a mid-round back next year in a rich RB draft.

We'll see if AP even plays this season....who knows?

Do you have an issue with Edge, Harley? He's a grinder back...he's not a homerun threat and never really was. Neither was Emmitt Smith and he's the alltime leading rusher...consistency is key. With a decent oline, Edge will give us wins...with a crappy oline he gave us damn near 1200 yards which is UNHEARD of in AZ.

I like Staley, but he's a project, not a day one starter. Levi starts...I'd love to have Staley AND Levi...but RB is a luxury. Let us win some games before we start entertaining luxuries...and there are luxuries to be had next draft...

I absolutely do. From his refusal to workout with the team, to his pedestrian running ability, etc. He came here for the money. Don't believe the b.s. about wanting to be apart of "the turnaround". Edge is overhyped, nothing spectacular, and boring. There are MANY, MANY runningbacks I'd rather have on this team....AP only being one of them. AP was handed to us on a silver platter and Minnesota laughed their collective asses off.

AP is the Boldin of running backs. I love Boldin, and the combo of Leinart, Boldin, Fitz, and AP would be ridiculous. Edge is a boring grinder. Never a homerun threat. I don't understand why folks can't see that.

 

[AZBALLER]

So a losing team(with a bad Oline) loses a starting Olineman to free agency, and replaces him with a rookie(who's a reach at that spot in the draft) for slightly less money, and the fans should be happy?

I'm sure the Cards accountant is happy, but I'm not.

 

[D-Dogg]

I absolutely do. From his refusal to workout with the team, to his pedestrian running ability, etc. He came here for the money. Don't believe the b.s. about wanting to be apart of "the turnaround". Edge is overhyped, nothing spectacular, and boring. There are MANY, MANY runningbacks I'd rather have on this team....AP only being one of them. AP was handed to us on a silver platter and Minnesota laughed their collective asses off.

AP is the Boldin of running backs. I love Boldin, and the combo of Leinart, Boldin, Fitz, and AP would be ridiculous. Edge is a boring grinder. Never a homerun threat. I don't understand why folks can't see that.

A) Good to know..that at least lets me know where your argument stands on the guy. Thanks for that...I don't feel the same about grinder backs...I think they are awesome...give me 3 or 4 yards a carry and I'll show you first downs like nobody's business. That's my preference, though (but of course, I'll completely refute that when I talk about AP vs. Reggie here in a bit)

B) I love the hell out of Boldin as well, but AP isn't boldin.. Boldin is a rare, rare dude. I'd say the dude we got in the third round, Buster Davis, is more "boldin" than AP. He's got the heart, the "you can't stop me but I dare you to try" mentality. I love it.

C) AP isn't a Reggie Bush, or I might be agreeing with you...if Bush were there and we passed on him I'd slit my wrists...I don't, however, see AP as a generational kind of RB like Bush is. Reggie is just unreal, in all facets...he is a touchdown waiting to happen, literally. AP has too many flaws in his diamond to be something I'm ready to sign off on...he may be great, but he won't be without a great team around him, IMO.

D) Next year's draft is chock full o good RBs that can take up the backup Edge position.

E) Edge WILL get 1400 yards this season, barring injury...we can bet a bottle of patron on that.

F-Z) We could still somehow get Michael Bush (what a perfect fit for this team...) or even Antonio Pittman (could be very good, could bust HARD).

I like the B brothers draft...not bad, IMO.

 

[Heucrazy]

So a losing team(with a bad Oline) loses a starting Olineman to free agency, and replaces him with a rookie(who's a reach at that spot in the draft) for slightly less money, and the fans should be happy?

I'm sure the Cards accountant is happy, but I'm not.

Yeah why would they want want to get a LT when they could have had a 4th running back for the roster?

And Leonard Davis sucks and is a Cowboy so get over it.

 

[mjb21aztd]

Well it would be hard for Peterson to run without a oline I mean James could barly break 1000 yards last year behind our oline, Peterson wouldve not done much to help us this year. If we can just get our oline built we would be ok with james, shipp, and arrington. So I like the pick in Brown it proves that the coaches know what we really need to help improve this team.

 

[Divide Et Impera]

Carlos = good CB in Washington.
CHARLES = bum with collarbone.

Yeah, but he could have been speaking in Spanish (Carlos = Charles)....

 

[Harry]

It was already known that he reinjured his collarbone in the Bowl game and surgery may be required.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

I like the B brothers draft...not bad, IMO.

After sleeping on it last night I have to agree .. it looks alot better this morning ...

 

[PJ1]

Yeah why would they want want to get a LT when they could have had a 4th running back for the roster?

And Leonard Davis sucks and is a Cowboy so get over it.

Or a top notch safety, LB, DE, CB............

 

[JeffGollin]

Given our past history with Swann, Wadsworth, Hearst and other top players with injury issues, I'm relieved the Cardinals passed on AP.

Maybe things will work out OK for him and the shoulder will turn out to be fine, but based on what the Cardinals knew at the time they knew it, they couldn't afford to blow a #5 pick this year.

Interestingly, it's not that they were timid - they made the educated assessment that, at #33, Alan Branch - despite the negative buzz and fall down the draft boards - had enough upside to be worth the risk at that point in the draft to warrant sacrificing a 4th round pick in order to trade up and get him.

Two decisions. I think both were sound. But the draft is about probabilities and not definites, so we'll have to wait a year or so to see whether those decisions were indeed sound ones.

 

[football karma]

It was already known that he reinjured his collarbone in the Bowl game and surgery may be required.

I have been pimping AD for like six months now

The above also gave me great cause for concern. It could very well be one of those draft "rumours" put out there to drive a player down --

but it also made me think that in classic Cardinal luck -- they would take him and have him break his collarbone after running for a 88 yard TD in his first game.

 

[cardsunsfan]

I heard Mike Mayock say that this morning. MY gripe with the Brown pick is that I wish we could have traded down with ATL but oh well. My big gripe with Branch is A I think he's a bust and B we could have gotten him at 38. I am ripped we don't have a fourth rounder.

Wow you sure know a lot. You know that Branch is going to be a bust, even though he was probably the most reponsible player for Michigan's great defence. Even more incredible...

We could have traded down with Atlanta because noone would have taken Brown.

And even more impressive.... You know we could have gotten Branch at 38!!! (This one I would have loved to bet you on if possible)

 

[BigRedArk]

A) Good to know..that at least lets me know where your argument stands on the guy. Thanks for that...I don't feel the same about grinder backs...I think they are awesome...give me 3 or 4 yards a carry and I'll show you first downs like nobody's business. That's my preference, though (but of course, I'll completely refute that when I talk about AP vs. Reggie here in a bit)


C) AP isn't a Reggie Bush, or I might be agreeing with you...if Bush were there and we passed on him I'd slit my wrists...I don't, however, see AP as a generational kind of RB like Bush is. Reggie is just unreal, in all facets...he is a touchdown waiting to happen, literally. AP has too many flaws in his diamond to be something I'm ready to sign off on...he may be great, but he won't be without a great team around him, IMO.

D) Next year's draft is chock full o good RBs that can take up the backup Edge position.

How about a guy who is both a grinder and a home-run threat? Would you like that type of RB? If so then Adrian Peterson is your man. You're right AP isn't Reggie Bush. Peterson plays all 3 downs and is tough on the inside and can get outside as well. Bush isn't an every down back because he can't take the punishment and isn't an inside runner.

Next years draft blah blah blah. That is typical Cardinals. Wait till next year. We're talking about this year and the chance to take a guy that could be All-Pro in a year or two.