What Is Jurecki Saying

[Jim Otis]

Put it this way--I'll be stunned if we pick a QB in the first round

My thoughts exactly TJ , anyone who thinks BA/SK is going to ignore a run at the Zona SuperBowl and pick a QB at 20 are kidding themselves . Fill in the blank with whatever QB name____________ here son take this clipboard and have a seat over there for this season . I will be stunned if if they don't take a Defender with the 20"th pick

 

[PJ1]

I'd be fine with Bortles. Just don't like Carr and would freak if we took him at 20.

Hope the pick is Pryor.

 

[Buckybird]

MJ is reporting the word is the Cards have 1 QB on their top 20 board. Hmmmm wonder who it could be?

 

[AZ Native]

MJ is reporting the word is the Cards have 1 QB on their top 20 board. Hmmmm wonder who it could be?

Bortles is my GUESS

 

[kerouac9]

I don't think we take a QB either it just doesn't make much sense Arians believes in playing a QB if you draft him that high and there is no way they would play this year, that and looking at next years QB class, it is light years better than this years class IMO.

Mariotta

Hundley

Winston

Petty

All QB's I like more than anyone in this draft and there are others as well.

Someone says some nonsense like this EVERY YEAR.

 

[TJ]

Bortles is my GUESS

That's my guess, too. Fits the system, needs time to develop.

Still, I'd be stunned if we picked any QB in the first round.

 

[Solar7]

Someone says some nonsense like this EVERY YEAR.

Agreed. Every year, it's "wait until next year, it's the year of the quarterback!"

Then we get there, and the QBs available are the worst choices to come out in the history of the NFL. Unless you're picking in the top 10, anyways, there's not going to be a perfect prospect out there. You have to take some risks. And in a year where there's four guys that have legitimate justification to be taken in the first round, I think you have to take a strong look at one of them.

Keep in mind how terrible Carson was the first half of last year... we can hope he plays around as well as he did in the second half, but if he doesn't, and we're scrambling for a replacement at the end of next season, we likely won't be drafting high enough to grab a decent QBOTF.

 

[Russ Smith]

Someone says some nonsense like this EVERY YEAR.

And all of those guys have flaws. I wouldn't touch Winston, mariota great athlete but not sold. Hundley great college QB not NFL accurate.

There aare always QB's worth taking but this year I wouldn't take one at 20 just don't see anybody I like enough.

Wait until later.

 

[Buckybird]

And all of those guys have flaws. I wouldn't touch Winston, mariota great athlete but not sold. Hundley great college QB not NFL accurate.

There aare always QB's worth taking but this year I wouldn't take one at 20 just don't see anybody I like enough.

Wait until later.

Totally agree Russ. IMO if the Cards want a QB, this is the draft to do it.

 

[Denny Green Fan]

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Just a few thoughts:

I was shocked the Jags passed on Mack and Watkins.

Jewuan James at 19?

I thought Johnny showed class by clapping for his teammates after they got

picked.

When the Cowboys were on the clock I told my dad the pick would be

Martin. Great pick by Jerry Jones I think he got this one right.

Derek Carr has a hot wife and if I was Houston I would pick him and

not worry about the PR nightmare.

I was shocked KC picked Ford with Houston and Hali on board. I thought

they would go with Lee. I wonder if they would of picked Johnny?

The Rams made out like bandits. May have the best defensive line in

football

The Falcons did the right thing staying put and not going all Dan Snyder.

The Bills gave up too much for Watkins.

I thought Dennard was the steal of the first round.

Easley over Hageman and Tuitt?

 

[joeshmo]

Someone says some nonsense like this EVERY YEAR.

Not only do people say that every year, but it was said many times on this very board last year. "Man I cant wait for next year with Manziel, Bridgewater, Logan Thomas, and some juniors who stayed in school."

Next years QB's are always better then the current years QB's.

 

[kerouac9]

Not only do people say that every year, but it was said many times on this very board last year. "Man I cant wait for next year with Manziel, Bridgewater, Logan Thomas, and some juniors who stayed in school."

Next years QB's are always better then the current years QB's.

Not in 2012, they weren't.

At some point, this scouting group is going to have to push their chips into the center of the table on a quarterback and a pass rusher. This year they had the luxury of having Palmer under contract for two more years and Abraham under contract for another year.

The Cards could save $10M on their 2015 cap if they felt like they could replace Carson Palmer before the season starts.

 

[BullheadCardFan]

At some point, this scouting group is going to have to push their chips into the center of the table on a quarterback and a pass rusher. This year they had the luxury of having Palmer under contract for two more years and Abraham under contract for another year.

Agree

Time is is always ticking

 

[Denny Green Fan]

How about Mettenberger if he is still there in the third round?

 

[WildBB]

The Cards could save $10M on their 2015 cap if they felt like they could replace Carson Palmer before the season starts.

Someone says nonsense like this every year.

OK give me the avatar. He's not getting picked. Too many issues croped up.

 

[kerouac9]

Someone says nonsense like this every year.

OK give me the avatar. He's not getting picked. Too many issues croped up.

I find your lack of faith disturbing. So, here's your avatar:

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I habitually underrate how good Palmer was over the last 9 games of the year. 65% completions on a 8.3 YPA, 16 TDs, 9 INTs. $12M just seems like a high cap number for him, particularly in 2015 with only one year left on that deal.

 

[WildBB]

Got faith in the right place.

But seen the writing on the wall for week. Good one. You got it - but if someone does something stupid I'll reserve mine Wiley9.

 

[AzStevenCal]

How about Mettenberger if he is still there in the third round?

6th round maybe, 3rd round no thanks. Smoking pot is one thing but being stupid enough to submit a diluted sample is quite another. Add in the concerns over his back problem (spondylolysis) and the fact he's a project in the first place makes him a late round pick IMO.

Steve

 

[Big Deal]

Just a few thoughts:

I was shocked the Jags passed on Mack and Watkins.

Jewuan James at 19?

I thought Johnny showed class by clapping for his teammates after they got

picked.

When the Cowboys were on the clock I told my dad the pick would be

Martin. Great pick by Jerry Jones I think he got this one right.

Derek Carr has a hot wife and if I was Houston I would pick him and

not worry about the PR nightmare.

I was shocked KC picked Ford with Houston and Hali on board. I thought

they would go with Lee. I wonder if they would of picked Johnny?

The Rams made out like bandits. May have the best defensive line in

football

The Falcons did the right thing staying put and not going all Dan Snyder.

The Bills gave up too much for Watkins.

I thought Dennard was the steal of the first round.

Easley over Hageman and Tuitt?

Why are you shocked? Jags have the worst scouting department in the league.

 

[CardsFan88]

6th round maybe, 3rd round no thanks. Smoking pot is one thing but being stupid enough to submit a diluted sample is quite another. Add in the concerns over his back problem (spondylolysis) and the fact he's a project in the first place makes him a late round pick IMO.

Steve

The back problem is a bigger issue imo. Now maybe he's fooled some people to have his back for him, but when you have a trainer specifically say he instructed him to drink a gallon of water everyday, then there is some validity to the claims that it was just diluted.

Though I'm not privy to how drug testing works, from what I understand they can tell very minute amounts, and so even if it is diluted, something should of shown up if it was there.

As for Watkins, I now think Anquan Boldin is a poor man's Watkins.

Buffalo fans should be having a....'I hear a lot about....' thread.

 

[AzStevenCal]

The back problem is a bigger issue imo. Now maybe he's fooled some people to have his back for him, but when you have a trainer specifically say he instructed him to drink a gallon of water everyday, then there is some validity to the claims that it was just diluted.

Though I'm not privy to how drug testing works, from what I understand they can tell very minute amounts, and so even if it is diluted, something should of shown up if it was there.

As for Watkins, I now think Anquan Boldin is a poor man's Watkins.

Buffalo fans should be having a....'I hear a lot about....' thread.

I'm not very familiar with the drug testing process either but it seems to me that it would take quite a bit more than a gallon (or 1.5 gallons) to produce a diluted sample. A middle aged sedentary woman should be drinking at least half that much on a regular basis so it seems to me a football player and a gallon of water daily shouldn't be strangers. I know growing up in Arizona and being active I drank that much more often than not. But I'd agree, the back issue is a much greater concern.

Steve

 

[CardsFan88]

I'm not very familiar with the drug testing process either but it seems to me that it would take quite a bit more than a gallon (or 1.5 gallons) to produce a diluted sample. A middle aged sedentary woman should be drinking at least half that much on a regular basis so it seems to me a football player and a gallon of water daily shouldn't be strangers. I know growing up in Arizona and being active I drank that much more often than not. But I'd agree, the back issue is a much greater concern.

Steve

That's what's weird about it all. I've heard numerous times over the years that all it takes is a gallon or so to produce a diluted sample. I have no idea why that would be the case, and as a person who drinks a lot of fluid it always seemed like a very small amount of liquid to trigger such a designation. I've thought to myself, geez, I naturally would produce a diluted sample. Being from AZ myself I've easily drank a gallon of water after being active out in the 100-123 degree heat.

It just doesn't make sense to me, and it seems odd we don't hear it much more often. But I do think we are also getting deeper reporting on the issue then we did in the past. Before we'd hear about people that tested positive, and this year they gave us some names, a total number (10 I think), and included people that gave the diluted samples.

I do have a feeling though that then NFL teams probably have copies of the test and know a bunch more then we do about the situation. If it's diluted with nothing coming up, NFL teams might not red flag it. If it's diluted and has something in it, then a red flag goes up. So it may be a situation where we have more info then past years, which creates a new gray area because the more in-depth reports don't have all the information and just leaves us with more questions then answers, yet the answers may exist, just that they may be only privy to NFL front offices.

It also makes me wonder if someone in a front office leaked (no pun intended) the information because it attaches a fake negative to him so they could get him a round later.

Lots of unknowns and we simply don't have the information to accurately judge anything.

 

[AzStevenCal]

That's what's weird about it all. I've heard numerous times over the years that all it takes is a gallon or so to produce a diluted sample. I have no idea why that would be the case, and as a person who drinks a lot of fluid it always seemed like a very small amount of liquid to trigger such a designation. I've thought to myself, geez, I naturally would produce a diluted sample. Being from AZ myself I've easily drank a gallon of water after being active out in the 100-123 degree heat.

It just doesn't make sense to me, and it seems odd we don't hear it much more often. But I do think we are also getting deeper reporting on the issue then we did in the past. Before we'd hear about people that tested positive, and this year they gave us some names, a total number (10 I think), and included people that gave the diluted samples.

I do have a feeling though that then NFL teams probably have copies of the test and know a bunch more then we do about the situation. If it's diluted with nothing coming up, NFL teams might not red flag it. If it's diluted and has something in it, then a red flag goes up. So it may be a situation where we have more info then past years, which creates a new gray area because the more in-depth reports don't have all the information and just leaves us with more questions then answers, yet the answers may exist, just that they may be only privy to NFL front offices.

It also makes me wonder if someone in a front office leaked (no pun intended) the information because it attaches a fake negative to him so they could get him a round later.

Lots of unknowns and we simply don't have the information to accurately judge anything.

I agree with all of this. I'll change my comment to "if he intentionally diluted his sample". You're right, too many unknowns to sit in judgement.

Steve

 

[Chopper0080]

per Jurecki

#Cards selecting 2nd rd 52 overall, 3rd rd 84 & 91. I could see Keim using one of those picks to move up if they have a player ranked high.