Ok I know the Suns have some young pieces to build around. But what is the Suns plan going forward? Do they want to collect as many assets as possible and build around the core that they have? I think the Suns will add a veteran this offseason. The new TV deal will kick in, I'm basically trying to get a better understanding of the Suns plan going forward. Also will the Suns give Lon Babby & Jeff Hornacek contract extensions pretty soon? I really hope the Suns have a plan in place, I just want to see the Suns do well and win a championship someday.
What Is The Phoenix Suns Plan Going Forward?
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Errntknght
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As far as one can tell they have the same plan as before, gathering assets for the one killer acquisition even though nary a significant FA has even hinted they might be interested in coming here. And things have deteriorated in that regard with mess that exploded at the trade deadline and the Morris's legal woes and officiating tirades. There were other signs that Hornacek lost control of the team - for example he started the year by saying they were going to start running after made baskets but no sign of that showed, except for Jeff's sideline exhortations.
The game plan appears to be the same, too - two combo guards, masquerading as point guards, running Hornacek's 'just play basketball' offense. McD, at one point, admitted they were undermanned in the paint but he's been silent about his plan to fix that - and there is the question of whether Hornacek would play more beef if it was at his disposal.
My guess is that, contrary to what he's maintained so far, they will be trying one short term fix after another to try to get into the playoffs - and fail.
The game plan appears to be the same, too - two combo guards, masquerading as point guards, running Hornacek's 'just play basketball' offense. McD, at one point, admitted they were undermanned in the paint but he's been silent about his plan to fix that - and there is the question of whether Hornacek would play more beef if it was at his disposal.
My guess is that, contrary to what he's maintained so far, they will be trying one short term fix after another to try to get into the playoffs - and fail.
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When the players are young and on rookie deals with upside... you dont call the team "tread milling" because there is space to move up to from the "running".
But once the youth excuse runs out and players get raises and new deals and have only marginally improved due to the lack of development... then you have a tread mill team.
McD needs to be careful.... I think he knew he had 2-3 seasons to create a CORE team before other teams and salary cap messes up his plan. Sure the rising cap will help a bit... but it helps EVERYONE not just the Suns, so the greener grass on other teams just gets greener.
But once the youth excuse runs out and players get raises and new deals and have only marginally improved due to the lack of development... then you have a tread mill team.
McD needs to be careful.... I think he knew he had 2-3 seasons to create a CORE team before other teams and salary cap messes up his plan. Sure the rising cap will help a bit... but it helps EVERYONE not just the Suns, so the greener grass on other teams just gets greener.
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Building a team this way will require some churning. Young players will develop, but once it becomes clear they cannot be pieces to build around, you have to trade them to teams with more set rosters for picks or young players. You just keep churning until you get a star player.
Sometimes you end up getting a Joe Johnson in a trade or a Shawn Marion or Amare Stoudemire with the 9th pick. You get a good but not thought to be superstar free agent that turns out to be an mvp (Nash) and sometimes, just sometimes, you are able to sign the outright star (Chambers) or trade for one (Barkley).
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LaMarcus Aldridge puts his Portland house for sale.
Dream on Suns fans.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238071/LaMarcus-Aldridge-Places-Portland-Home-For-Sale
Dream on Suns fans.
http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/238071/LaMarcus-Aldridge-Places-Portland-Home-For-Sale
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I would be surprised if he doesn't end up in San Antonio.
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man... that would be unfair. Probably gives Duncan another couple shots at getting his 6th title.
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Probably. Maybe Dallas.
Would love for him to end up here but it's a pipe dream. I hope any ends up ANYWHERE other than Dallas, San Antonio or the Lakers.
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1. Draft a star in this draft.
2. Find some veteran leadership.
3. Intangibles
Mental toughness Tony La Russa talked about this. at times the suns gave up when the opponents took the lead or when the suns picked up a technical
Effort and Execution for the full 48 minutes. I want the Suns to play hard give every effort. After the game against Cleveland Markieff disappeared.
If they can do those 2 things Suns will win more games and get respect from their opponents.
2. Find some veteran leadership.
3. Intangibles
Mental toughness Tony La Russa talked about this. at times the suns gave up when the opponents took the lead or when the suns picked up a technical
Effort and Execution for the full 48 minutes. I want the Suns to play hard give every effort. After the game against Cleveland Markieff disappeared.
If they can do those 2 things Suns will win more games and get respect from their opponents.
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San Antonio would have to create capspace first and that means losing some of their FAs, at least Danny Green.
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yeah, so? You think they would throw away the chance to sign Aldridge in order to overpay for a role player like Green? San Antonio won't pay Green a big contract. They'll let somebody else make that mistake.
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You mean like they did with Splitter? What's so bad about Green?
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Man, I am so glad that message board posters are not Suns mgmt. This "they will never come here so why even try" attitude will get no one anywhere.
This mgmt team needs to be bold. They need to go for the top free agents. They need to put together a plan for a championship and sell free agents on it. I want no part of a team that has already decided its a loser and therefore puts no effort into trying to win.
I don't want my team to be that guy that only asks fat girls out because they are easy.
This mgmt team needs to be bold. They need to go for the top free agents. They need to put together a plan for a championship and sell free agents on it. I want no part of a team that has already decided its a loser and therefore puts no effort into trying to win.
I don't want my team to be that guy that only asks fat girls out because they are easy.
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there's nothing so bad about green. I like him a lot. There's just no way San Antonio is going to miss out on Aldridge giving a bunch of money to Green. He's a three and D guy and a good one. Splitter is a good, defensive seven footer and really good in their system. If he's not injured San Antonio definitely gets to the conference finals and a nice shot at the finals again this season.
But if your point is that I think everybody is overpaid well, touché.
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Splitter's numbers have regressed since the Spurs signed him to an inexplicably large extension in 2013, and his production last year was no higher than it was in his sophomore season (2011-12).
http://stats.nba.com/player/#!/201168/career/
You're telling me that's a $9 million per year player? At age 30?
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For 19 minutes a game those numbers for Splitter are not bad. As a FA I think he'd get 9 million for sure. I think the better question is, is it worth paying a guy 9 million if you're only going to play him 19 minutes a game?
I'd say no.
I'd say no.
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I think the better question is, why is he getting only 19 minutes a game, if he's good enough to pay 9 million a year to?
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Its the Spurs. If he played for the Magic I'd question that PT.
I don't think Splitter is a stud or even much better than average but big guys who produce at that rate get paid.
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Is this a real conversation? Good grief it's slow around here.
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The Sixers are showing how risky throwing away seasons for the "promise" of potential is.
They've been deliberately wretched for 2 full years and now with Joel Embiid's sad state (his foot has not healed and he is in doubt for all of next year) they are still a long way away from putting a decent product on the court. If he is out they will likely throw in the towel on next season too.
I feel bad for any Sixer fan who has wasted money on season tickets.
They've been deliberately wretched for 2 full years and now with Joel Embiid's sad state (his foot has not healed and he is in doubt for all of next year) they are still a long way away from putting a decent product on the court. If he is out they will likely throw in the towel on next season too.
I feel bad for any Sixer fan who has wasted money on season tickets.
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I wonder if they would be willing to deal Noel. Rebounding & defense are his strengths. Maybe send the twins back home in the deal.
