What is with the Skelton hype?

[DoTheDew]

The guys wins games. Stats be damned. If Whiz has any interest in keeping his job, Skelton will continue starting for the foreseeable future.

 

[LarryStalling]

It looks to me like the defense believes in him. They certainly look different than when Kolb was the qb, but then it might be just the fact that they have been with Horton long enough that they are starting to understand what he wants them to do.

Should have been four picks today. Been a long time since Card fans could say that. or three even.

 

[AsUpRoDiGy]

The big thing is that he has shown huge improvement from last season.

Skelton has certainly showed massive improvement. Kolb literally hasn't improved at all throughout his entire career, and the stats clearly illustrate that. I've never seen a QB gradually get worse every single game like Kolb has, and I think it's pretty obvious at this point that he's nothing more than a glorified back up.

 

[Darkside]

If we're just talking about improvement with Skelton, there's no question. The guy has improved a ton over last year.

 

[gmabel830]

The guys wins games. Stats be damned. If Whiz has any interest in keeping his job, Skelton will continue starting for the foreseeable future.

The same could be said of Tim Tebow at this point (I think Skelton has infinitely more potential than Tebow though).

Also, if I'm the owner, and my coach tells me he has more faith in sticking with a young QB that was already on my roster over the guy he hand picked, convinced me to trade a pro-bowl player and a high draft pick for, and convinced me to pay tens of millions of dollars to, I would fire that coach immediately.

 

[SoCal Cardfan]

The same could be said of Tim Tebow at this point (I think Skelton has infinitely more potential than Tebow though).

Also, if I'm the owner, and my coach tells me he has more faith in sticking with a young QB that was already on my roster over the guy he hand picked, convinced me to trade a pro-bowl player and a high draft pick for, and convinced me to pay tens of millions of dollars to, I would fire that coach immediately.

Then you would fit right in with Management with that logic.

Humans make mistakes... But when you choose to cling to that mistake, in a feeble attempt to prove that you were right.. That's when you keep digging yourself deeper.

And thats what I fully expect this organization will do.. Put Kolb back in asap, so they can attempt to prove everyone wrong.

 

[Mr.Dibbs]

The same could be said of Tim Tebow at this point (I think Skelton has infinitely more potential than Tebow though).

Also, if I'm the owner, and my coach tells me he has more faith in sticking with a young QB that was already on my roster over the guy he hand picked, convinced me to trade a pro-bowl player and a high draft pick for, and convinced me to pay tens of millions of dollars to, I would fire that coach immediately.

Really? I'm glad you aren't my boss.

This sport is a gamble, and part of the fun is seeing the unexpected stars (Brady, Warner, etc.) become stars. The team needed a QB and made a move in the summer instead of sitting around and doing nothing. Maybe it backfired, but at least they did something.

I'd fire the coach that didn't go with the hot hand, or that didn't try to fill the teams needs, which included QB.

 

[LarryStalling]

Really? I'm glad you aren't my boss.

This sport is a gamble, and part of the fun is seeing the unexpected stars (Brady, Warner, etc.) become stars. The team needed a QB and made a move in the summer instead of sitting around and doing nothing. Maybe it backfired, but at least they did something.

I'd fire the coach that didn't go with the hot hand, or that didn't try to fill the teams needs, which included QB.

If Kolb had not gotten hurt, how long do you think it would be until you fired the coach.

 

[Duckjake]

Kolb 1-6 Skelator 4-2. We have our own Vince Young. Just win baby.

 

[Jetstream Green]

People are caught up in the Tebow-itis. If your team is struggling, the 1st thing fans want is to replace the starting QB, which is sometimes deserved, but rarely successful. Skelton is a statue, I don't see anyway possible he could be productive behind the worst O-Line in the NFL, but he does have poise, and does step up in the pocket when it's warranted. Kolb is average at best, but Skelton is definitely not the answer, to any degree. I think most people want Skelton even more just because they hate the Cards front office, and want to prove that the Kolb signing was a huge mistake. Just a theory...

I don't get this statue part one bit at all, more than once that statue ran for first downs and kept the drives alive

 

[Sunryze88]

I really don't get how people can completely say Skelton is not the QBOF. Yes, he makes mistakes but he is showing alot of upside, and continues to be clutch when needed to be. The man is still a "rookie", a RAW "rookie at that. I, myself am not saying he is the QBOF but you guys don't give him any slack but give Kolb slack? C'mon! Kolb has been in the league a bit longer and has started more games than Skelton. It's funny, as a fan you do not support the guy and no matter what he does you put the guy down.....What guy has come out and in his first 2 years is making no mistakes and winning every game??? jeez....

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

I really don't get how people can completely say Skelton is not the QBOF. Yes, he makes mistakes but he is showing alot of upside, and continues to be clutch when needed to be. The man is still a "rookie", a RAW "rookie at that. I, myself am not saying he is the QBOF but you guys don't give him any slack but give Kolb slack? C'mon! Kolb has been in the league a bit longer and has started more games than Skelton. It's funny, as a fan you do not support the guy and no matter what he does you put the guy down.....What guy has come out and in his first 2 years is making no mistakes and winning every game??? jeez....

I'll say it: Skelton is the QBOTF AND SHOLUD BE QBOTN.

 

[cardpa]

The biggest difference it seems many are ignoring is the blocking scheme and the fact that there is much more max protection being ran or at the very least help with chipping than Kolb ever had in his starts. Give Kolb the same protection scheme and I would like to see what he can do.

All I am saying is this is not an apples to apples comparison. Skelton is getting better protection more often than Kolb did. On plays where it was only the OL blocking Skelton was running for his life or had little time to throw.

 

[Sunryze88]

The biggest difference it seems many are ignoring is the blocking scheme and the fact that there is much more max protection being ran or at the very least help with chipping than Kolb ever had in his starts. Give Kolb the same protection scheme and I would like to see what he can do.

All I am saying is this is not an apples to apples comparison. Skelton is getting better protection more often than Kolb did. On plays where it was only the OL blocking Skelton was running for his life or had little time to throw.

That is hard to believe....The o line may look better because Skelton is actually stepping up in to the pocket so the OLB/DE have to go all the way around the linemen. Kolb runs out of the pocket so the OLB/DE have a straight shot at him.

 

[Russ Smith]

I really don't get how people can completely say Skelton is not the QBOF. Yes, he makes mistakes but he is showing alot of upside, and continues to be clutch when needed to be. The man is still a "rookie", a RAW "rookie at that. I, myself am not saying he is the QBOF but you guys don't give him any slack but give Kolb slack? C'mon! Kolb has been in the league a bit longer and has started more games than Skelton. It's funny, as a fan you do not support the guy and no matter what he does you put the guy down.....What guy has come out and in his first 2 years is making no mistakes and winning every game??? jeez....

Well the thing is there's this element of does he just win games or is he just getting lucky. I'd start him against SF(although last year he was horrible against them) but largely because the team has won 2 games and I don't know if Kolb is healthy.

Skelton made the big plays when we needed them, Kolb hasn't.

But if you look he gave them 10 points on picks yesterday. One of the TD's to Fitz not only should have been picked, it should have been a picksix I still don't know how the DB missed that but he did(lucky). ANother completion downfield to Fitz again should have been picked but it's tipped up and Fitz catches it. There was another one to Fitz he completed into triple coverage when it's complete it's great but generally speaking throwing high into triple coverage is a bad thing. but it worked again.

Right now I have no complaints because we won, but it could have very well been a 4-5 pick game where we're all clamoring for Bartel.

but all I can do is react to what happened and we won so I'm happy.

 

[Russ Smith]

The biggest difference it seems many are ignoring is the blocking scheme and the fact that there is much more max protection being ran or at the very least help with chipping than Kolb ever had in his starts. Give Kolb the same protection scheme and I would like to see what he can do.

All I am saying is this is not an apples to apples comparison. Skelton is getting better protection more often than Kolb did. On plays where it was only the OL blocking Skelton was running for his life or had little time to throw.

This is the one complaint I have if any it's that Whiz is doing something for Skelton he didn't do for Kolb. But at this point I don't care because it should have been done regardless of who's the QB.

 

[Pariah]

Skelton has so much more touch on his passes than Kolb does it's not even funny. But he also has the arm to zip it in tight windows and get it down-field. The comparative pocket presence between the two...well, the gap is enormous.

He still has a lot of learn about reading defenses, but I much prefer Skelton at this point.

 

[Duckjake]

Well the thing is there's this element of does he just win games or is he just getting lucky. I'd start him against SF(although last year he was horrible against them) but largely because the team has won 2 games and I don't know if Kolb is healthy.

Skelton made the big plays when we needed them, Kolb hasn't.

But if you look he gave them 10 points on picks yesterday. One of the TD's to Fitz not only should have been picked, it should have been a picksix I still don't know how the DB missed that but he did(lucky). ANother completion downfield to Fitz again should have been picked but it's tipped up and Fitz catches it. There was another one to Fitz he completed into triple coverage when it's complete it's great but generally speaking throwing high into triple coverage is a bad thing. but it worked again.

Right now I have no complaints because we won, but it could have very well been a 4-5 pick game where we're all clamoring for Bartel.

but all I can do is react to what happened and we won so I'm happy.

Not when you're throwing it to Fitzgerald.

 

[crisper57]

When Skelton is good, man he is fun to watch. When he is bad though, he is really bad. Both those picks yesterday were ugh-worthy. And he missed wide open receivers on more than one occasion. Still, the guy is a gamer. With his back against the wall, he engineered three very long drives that resulted in touchdown passes.

Right now, I don't see him being anymore than a 50% QB. That is, he will complete half his passes and have approximately the same number of INT's and TD's over the course of a season. Not great, but the good news is that he has a ton of upside to improve on those types of stats.

 

[CFLredzoned]

On the surface, you would think the Bidwells will push to start Kolb - since they just spent all that money. But think about this. The Kolb money is already spent. If Kolb continues to start, they risk not selling out home games. If Skelton starts, there's hope, and probably a higher chance of selling out. I don't know if that's really the case. Or if that's what Bidwells are even thinking. But you never know. They just might push for Skelton sooner than you think.

 

[crisper57]

On the surface, you would think the Bidwells will push to start Kolb - since they just spent all that money. But think about this. The Kolb money is already spent. If Kolb continues to start, they risk not selling out home games. If Skelton starts, there's hope, and probably a higher chance of selling out. I don't know if that's really the case. Or if that's what Bidwells are even thinking. But you never know. They just might push for Skelton sooner than you think.

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The Cards have two tough division games before coming home. If they can keep this up for 2 more weeks, that Dallas game is going to be insane.