What team had the most surprising pick in the draft?

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New Information: Analyst Chris Simms is now saying, that had Chubb been the Browns pick at #4, a deal was already agreed upon for Denver to trade with the Cardinals; AND that the Cardinals pick at #5 in this scenario was going to be Josh Allen. (See below video at 16:07 min in.)

Again - Thank you, Cleveland Browns!!!

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Simms is full of $hit! Gambo confirmed yesterday that the Cards liked Allen’s tools, but in no scenario would they have taken him ahead of Rosen. Sounds like some of our local media members may have gotten a sneak peek of the Cards top 120 board.
 

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New Information: Analyst Chris Simms is now saying, that had Chubb been the Browns pick at #4, a deal was already agreed upon for Denver to trade with the Cardinals; AND that the Cardinals pick at #5 in this scenario was going to be Josh Allen. (See below video at 16:07 min in.)

Again - Thank you, Cleveland Browns!!!

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Simms is full of $hit! Gambo confirmed yesterday that the Cards liked Allen’s tools, but in no scenario would they have taken him ahead of Rosen. Sounds like some of our local media members may have gotten a sneak peek of the Cards top 120 board.

I don't believe it either. I could see the Cardinals liking Darnold and Mayfield above Rosen, but based on their reactions, I think they grouped those three pretty closely.
 
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Simms is full of $hit! Gambo confirmed yesterday that the Cards liked Allen’s tools, but in no scenario would they have taken him ahead of Rosen. Sounds like some of our local media members may have gotten a sneak peek of the Cards top 120 board.
First, No need to jump! If anything, what Simms had to say confirms my suspicion that had Cleveland selected Chubb, then Denver would have traded out of the #5 spot, with a strong likelihood that a QB would have been taken at that pick by the team trading up.

Second, Gambo is no different than any other radio personality, i.e.- they use what contacts they have to gain info when and where they can. And when that fails them, just take your best guess and make stuff up!
 

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In Seattle's defense (God I hate saying that), I think they look for character attributes a lot in the players they are drafting. And I'm not talking about choir boys, I'm talking about tough guy, bully types is what they value.

You are definitely right about that, and I am not trying to take anything away from John Schneider’s ability in all his time as their general manager. After all, he was the reason they got players like Earl Thomas, Kam Chancellor, K.J. Wright, Richard Sherman, Bobby Wagner and Russell Wilson. You are also right that they seemingly target a certain type of players, and Schneider has certainly used a lot of their first picks the concerned year on players with huge baggage such as Bruce Irvin, Christine Michael and Frank Clark.

My point is that his approach has not worked for several years, and he has not shown a willingness or maybe even the ability to adapt accordingly. Going back the last five drafts, and excluding the one a weak ago, he has used their first three selections in each year on players that neither I nor the media considered likely to be drafted in that area. While an admirable number of nine out of those 15 selections are still on the team, you could argue that only two of them (Shaquill Griffin and Frank Clark) are big contributors. Further, it is not at all unrealistically that at least the six picks the last two years are mostly on the roster because it would simply be a personal defeat to Schneider to let them go. That approach to roster building happens all the time in the NFL.

To compare the above, 10 of the Cardinal’s 15 top draft selection from the last five drafts are still with the team. Arguable six of them (Bucannon, Humphries, Golden, David Johnson, Reddick and Budda Baker) can be described as big contributors, and important building blocks for the future. Of course, in that timespan the Seahawks has made the playoff four times while the Cardinals has only made it two times, but I would argue that is in part because of Schneider’s great drafts years ago, and in part because of good free agent acquisitions. Not because of his drafting the last five years.
 
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You know, for those saying Ward over Chubb was surprising, c'mon. Is it so surprising that the Browns would crap the bed on draft day?

I am not sure you comment is correct in its implication. If I am not mistaken, the last couple of Browns' drafts prior to this year were graded "A" by most experts. Going against the grain this year may turn things around for them. We'll have to wait and see.
 
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