what would have happened if no surgery for Amare?

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OK, so lets say this was the mid-80's in terms of technology. rewind back to oct '05, amare complains of knee soreness but they don't have any medical option to deal with it. what happens if he just tries to 'play through it'? how long does he last? how fast would the decline have been?
 

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I am 23 years old and have had 3 surgeries on the same knee in the past 6 years. I am currently in talks with doctors about going in and having micro-fracture done on that same knee. I play golf for a living (a lot less physically intense of a sport), and let me tell you...if it ever gets to the point where micro-fracture is being talked about, you are in a lot of pain constantly. I am doing this to possibly preserve a golf career, so I can only imagine how much of a hindrance his knee was for him to even go down this road. So just from comparing it to my sitution, I would say that his career would have been missing a lot of time and lost a lot of explosiveness shortly. Abnormal joint wear is not a fun pain to have, its basically a 24 hour a day pain that hurts 10x more when you are actually using it.
 

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Amare was in considerable pain and the doctors concluded that it would get worse.

The idea of using microfracture as a first resort rather than a last resort is certainly controversial, but it's not clear there were any really good options.
 

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The idea of using microfracture as a first resort rather than a last resort is certainly controversial, but it's not clear there were any really good options.

My understanding is that when the original cartilege has been worn away or missing somehow from an area in a joint it never regrows on its own. You can go in and clean up debris that resulted from abrading action but, except for microfractury surgury, there is no way to replace the missing cartilege. Sounds like that as soon as cartilege is missing you have only two choices - let it go as is and hope for the best or replace it the inferior cartilege that grows from the stem cells released by microfracture and then hope for the best.
 

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Somewhat related to this question, what would have happened if no surgery for Amare?

Another interesting thought is, what if Amare had decided not to extend his contract with the Suns? What would his value be worth now?
 
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Mainstreet said:
Somewhat related to this question, what would have happened if no surgery for Amare?

Another interesting thought is, what if Amare had decided not to extend his contract with the Suns? What would his value be worth now?


Interesting thought. If he ends up struggling and not getting much playing time becuase of his injuries, that a lot of contract to swallow. The timming of the surgery was really interesting. RIGHT after he signs his contract.
 

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Interesting thought. If he ends up struggling and not getting much playing time becuase of his injuries, that a lot of contract to swallow. The timming of the surgery was really interesting. RIGHT after he signs his contract.

I've often thought the Suns didn't question Amare's knee soreness before signing him to the max extension because it might effect his pending 30 million dollar shoe contract. Anyway, I've often thought that perhaps the Suns might have shown more diligence in examining Amare physically if it weren't for this aspect... that they didn't want to hamper him getting this shoe contract.

Perhaps I have the timing on this all wrong, but it seemed like most everyone thought they were walking on rice paper when the Suns were trying to extend Amare and were afraid he wouldn't sign the extension.
 

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boisesuns said:
Interesting thought. If he ends up struggling and not getting much playing time becuase of his injuries, that a lot of contract to swallow. The timming of the surgery was really interesting. RIGHT after he signs his contract.

It wasn't until training camp that it became clear Amare couldn't play. He did well in an fundraiser exhibition game and the pain was "tollerable. Prior to camp, his pain was treated entirely as a physical therapy issue. However, the extra stress of camp proved otherwise.
 

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George O'Brien said:
It wasn't until training camp that it became clear Amare couldn't play. He did well in an fundraiser exhibition game and the pain was "tollerable. Prior to camp, his pain was treated entirely as a physical therapy issue. However, the extra stress of camp proved otherwise.


I wonder when the damage was done then. It must have just been an on going tpye of thing that just led to that.
 

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OK, so lets say this was the mid-80's in terms of technology. rewind back to oct '05, amare complains of knee soreness but they don't have any medical option to deal with it. what happens if he just tries to 'play through it'? how long does he last? how fast would the decline have been?

They'd give him some ice, some pain relievers and send him out there. Eventually his knee would explode. :shrug:
 
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