Where will Jimmy Butler end up? 2025 edition

[Covert Rain]

Jimmy Butler trade rumors: Heat receiving 'poo-poo platter' offers, Grizzlies among teams told to stay away​

Jimmy Butler trade rumors: Heat receiving 'poo-poo platter' offers, Grizzlies among teams told to stay away

Butler is going to want major money this offseason, and that's scaring teams off

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This is getting scary. Seems Butler's team is narrowing the field because other teams are offering him crap. The scary part is what I stated earlier. The Phoenix Suns are the team where veterans off-board into retirement. From Sarver to now Ishbia. I can hear the advertisement now.

*Radio voice* Are you at the end of your career? Is your body slowly telling you it's time? Are you looking for one last contract? Is "owie" your middle name? Look no further than the Phoenix Suns. We are your destination.

I think Butler for Beal makes the team better but if they still are not good enough to win a title? No reason to make this move. Now if by some miracle we get an upgrade in our FC, get a real inside presence and Butler? I am still highly skeptical but it could give us a fighting chance.

The problem? I will be in full upchuck mode if we are then saddled with KD and Butler extensions while these guys enter senior citizen mode. The idea of moving Beal before was to get us under the 2nd Apron. If they extend Butler it's a push right?

 

[Ronin]

Will Mat Ishbia, Suns admit failure or add Jimmy Butler?

This team built around Devin Booker and Kevin Durant has not worked. Will Phoenix Suns owner Mat Ishbia spend on Jimmy Butler to find that out?

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[Proximo]

This is getting scary. Seems Butler's team is narrowing the field because other teams are offering him crap. The scary part is what I stated earlier. The Phoenix Suns are the team where veterans off-board into retirement. From Sarver to now Ishbia. I can hear the advertisement now.

*Radio voice* Are you at the end of your career? Is your body slowly telling you it's time? Are you looking for one last contract? Is "owie" your middle name? Look no further than the Phoenix Suns. We are your destination.

I think Butler for Beal makes the team better but if they still are not good enough to win a title? No reason to make this move. Now if by some miracle we get an upgrade in our FC, get a real inside presence and Butler? I am still highly skeptical but it could give us a fighting chance.

The problem? I will be in full upchuck mode if we are then saddled with KD and Butler extensions while these guys enter senior citizen mode. The idea of moving Beal before was to get us under the 2nd Apron. If they extend Butler it's a push right?

There is no way they are good enough to win a title with just the addition of Butler.

It's worse than a push because Butler is 4 years older.

 

[GatorAZ]

This is getting scary. Seems Butler's team is narrowing the field because other teams are offering him crap. The scary part is what I stated earlier. The Phoenix Suns are the team where veterans off-board into retirement. From Sarver to now Ishbia. I can hear the advertisement now.

*Radio voice* Are you at the end of your career? Is your body slowly telling you it's time? Are you looking for one last contract? Is "owie" your middle name? Look no further than the Phoenix Suns. We are your destination.

I think Butler for Beal makes the team better but if they still are not good enough to win a title? No reason to make this move. Now if by some miracle we get an upgrade in our FC, get a real inside presence and Butler? I am still highly skeptical but it could give us a fighting chance.

The problem? I will be in full upchuck mode if we are then saddled with KD and Butler extensions while these guys enter senior citizen mode. The idea of moving Beal before was to get us under the 2nd Apron. If they extend Butler it's a push right?

Butler is a significant upgrade over Beal fit wise but it’s not close enough to beat OKC in a series. We’d still have the worse center combo among contending teams and a group of star players that could get hurt and miss a month on any given play.

 

[Proximo]

suns will never get butler - ever

Actually I am 90% sure it's happening - and I wish it wasn't. I was good with the move if we weren't going to extend him, but extending him makes the move a negative.

I have always thought Butler was overrated.

 

[Proximo]

Butler is a significant upgrade over Beal fit wise but it’s not close enough to beat OKC in a series. We’d still have the worse center combo among contending teams and a group of star players that could get hurt and miss a month on any given play.

Yeah he fits a bit better. He still isn't going to fix our turnover issue with KD wanting to ISO, and we still will be undersized and bad at rebounding.

OKC is just in another echelon.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Actually I am 90% sure it's happening - and I wish it wasn't. I was good with the move if we weren't going to extend him, but extending him makes the move a negative.

I have always thought Butler was overrated.

It would be a no brainer without an extension. It makes us better now and gives us more flexibility sooner. We are handcuffing ourselves for likely the next 3 years if we extend him.

 

[Hoop Head]

Actually I am 90% sure it's happening - and I wish it wasn't. I was good with the move if we weren't going to extend him, but extending him makes the move a negative.

I have always thought Butler was overrated.

Butler might be overrated now but he's been the #1 guy on 2 finals teams with little talent around him. I think he's been underrated over the last decade because he's rarely, if ever, mentioned as a top 10 talent.

I can see him being a hail mary for the Suns. He's driven and might be able to light a fire under Booker and KD. I'm not saying he will because I think KD is just disinterested but Booker may follow Butler's lead and those 2 might be capable of leading this team to a semblance of success. That success wouldn't be a title run but perhaps a WCF appearance. The rest of the roster is lacking too much to go further than that.

I'm not endorsing the move. I can see the reason behind it and am not against it because we're stuck in purgatory for the next 3 years regardless.

I still don't believe Butler ends up here unless Detroit can somehow be persuaded to take Beal and part with something Miami wants. I think Butler ends up somewhere else, ultimately.

 

[BirdGangThing]

no more trading rookies and youngins for mid 30s - im tired of that ish

 

[95pro]

Actually I am 90% sure it's happening - and I wish it wasn't. I was good with the move if we weren't going to extend him, but extending him makes the move a negative.

I have always thought Butler was overrated.

Imo Butler has been underrated. His stats don't tell the whole story, he's not going to score and score. He is a bit more methodical, something i think this team needs.
He's been good for 18pts, 5 rebs, and 5 assist, while shooting a decent 3pt percentage the last few years in 30 minutes. We dont need him to play close to 40, if he's there in the 4th he gives us a different threat than Book and KD.

He is a better fit, not a redundant star, and forward is something we are in need of. He's been to the finals as well and has been a winner and competitor, something Beal has never been.

 

[gimpy]

It would be a no brainer without an extension. It makes us better now and gives us more flexibility sooner. We are handcuffing ourselves for likely the next 3 years if we extend him.

I thought we were pretty much already handcuffed?

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

I thought we were pretty much already handcuffed?

Somewhat. Beal could potentially opt out after next season (assuming he believes he could get another solid contract that is). Nurk also comes off after next year so we would have some freedom with those two contracts gone. If we trade for Butler and presumably extend him for 2-3 more years we could be adding a year or two to our period of no flexibility.

We would essentially be relying on KD, Book and Butler through the 27-28 season.

 

[Cheesebeef]

Ishbia's got a bad case of Cubanitis. All of these move seem like what Mark Cuban was doing early in his time as Mavs owner, just throwing whatever name he could find against the wall to try and win a title.

 

[CardsSunsDbacks]

Ishbia's got a bad case of Cubanitis. All of these move seem like what Mark Cuban was doing early in his time as Mavs owner, just throwing whatever name he could find against the wall to try and win a title.

The issue isn't inherently the names though. It's that we are getting these guys when they are on the decline. KD and Beal can't stay healthy and Butler will be just another guy in that same boat. A trio of Book, Butler and KD would have been amazing 2-3 years ago, but now it seems like a terrible idea.

 

[Covert Rain]

There is no way they are good enough to win a title with just the addition of Butler.

It's worse than a push because Butler is 4 years older.

I wasn't just saying Beal for Butler. You left out us acquiring a legit FC player. I agree though, simply swapping out Butler for Beal won't be enough.

 

[Proximo]

Butler might be overrated now but he's been the #1 guy on 2 finals teams with little talent around him. I think he's been underrated over the last decade because he's rarely, if ever, mentioned as a top 10 talent.

I can see him being a hail mary for the Suns. He's driven and might be able to light a fire under Booker and KD. I'm not saying he will because I think KD is just disinterested but Booker may follow Butler's lead and those 2 might be capable of leading this team to a semblance of success. That success wouldn't be a title run but perhaps a WCF appearance. The rest of the roster is lacking too much to go further than that.

I'm not endorsing the move. I can see the reason behind it and am not against it because we're stuck in purgatory for the next 3 years regardless.

I still don't believe Butler ends up here unless Detroit can somehow be persuaded to take Beal and part with something Miami wants. I think Butler ends up somewhere else, ultimately.

He has never been close to a top 10 talent. The fact you would even use him the same sentence shows how overrated he is. Look at his stats.

I get why the Suns are doing it, but it's desperate and very unlikely to work.

They know they need leadership, and they think he can provide it. Well even if he does it isn't going to matter. The playoffs come down to big time players making big time plays - and I don't have faith in Book or KD to take over when we need them to. They can't even do it in the regular season.

 

[Mainstreet]

Unless the Suns think their window has closed, I can see the Suns extending Durant's contract to run with Booker's contract, which expires in 2027-28.

If the Suns trade for Butler, I can see something similar, except for perhaps a year less.

 

[Proximo]

we have no available money to spend

we have no available picks to trade

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and nobody in their right minds is taking nurk and paying beal - it would take more than a drunken three-way

this all leads me to assume jimmy butler will absolutely 100% be a phoenix sun when all this madness is done - and if we include dunn i might be done

If we include Dunn, I will be done - at least for awhile.

I absolutely refuse to believe they would do that. He is the only positive thing in the whole organization. There would be no reason to do anything but hate watch.

 

[Mainstreet]

Casting aside the idea of trading for Jimmy Butler for a moment.

If Beal and Nurkic embraced backup roles, I can see the Suns being highly competitive, but Plumlee, Nurkic and Ighodaro are not enough upfront.

If the Suns could add a couple of capable role players at the 4/5 position who can defend, this might be the easier way to go.

 

[elindholm]

Ishbia's got a bad case of Cubanitis. All of these move seem like what Mark Cuban was doing early in his time as Mavs owner, just throwing whatever name he could find against the wall to try and win a title.

More like Prokhorovitis. Cuban, for all of his hubris, has always been willing to listen to (if not reliably follow) voices of reason. Ishbia is in camp of "I'm rich, therefore I am an expert in everything."

 

[Superbone]

More like Prokhorovitis. Cuban, for all of his hubris, has always been willing to listen to (if not reliably follow) voices of reason. Ishbia is in camp of "I'm rich, therefore I am an expert in everything."

And a former player. If you can call it that as the 12th man in college.

 

[Germz249]

I saw this floating around. Not sure if all 3 teams would benefit.

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[Covert Rain]

Report: Jimmy Butler now has 1 clear preferred trade destination

Disgruntled Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler now has one clear preferred trade destination, according to a report this week.

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[Hoop Head]

I saw this floating around. Not sure if all 3 teams would benefit.

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I'd have to believe a 1st would be involved, maybe 2 of them. That makes more sense than a lot of other deals that I've seen though.

 

[GatorAZ]

Report: Jimmy Butler now has 1 clear preferred trade destination

Disgruntled Miami Heat star Jimmy Butler now has one clear preferred trade destination, according to a report this week.

larrybrownsports.com

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What happens if we end up with Jimmy, extend him but he becomes unhappy again with one year?