Which Suns player should the one time waiver be used on?

[Yuma]

The way I am reading the new CBA one time waiver rule, either we use it this summer, or lose it. The rule applies to this summer only.

Assuming the above, I know big salary players like Allen Houston were mentioned for the waiver. However he still counts against the team's cap, but not luxury tax. Plus the team still has to pay him.

I am thinking this rule could be used for "small" salaries, too. The player I am thinking of is Jake Voshkul. We could jettison him, free up a roster spot, and only eat his $1.9 million salary. It's clear D'Antoni won't use him. Plus we can tell him no thanks to his player option! I know this isn't the way the exception was envisioned, but if we need a roster spot and Jake IS dead wood, then we could use the exception on him.

I can't think of a high salary guy we would use it on. Without being over the luxury tax threshhold, it really makes no sense for Phoenix to jettison a high salary for the waiver exception. Why eat a high salary when it counts against your cap anyway if you aren't paying the luxury tax?

 

[Chaplin]

Without being over the threshold, it makes no sense to waive anybody! The only advantage of that is for a team above the threshold to waive someone to get underneath it. Since we don't have that problem, we don't have to waive anybody.

 

[tobiazz]

No, no.

You can waive a player anytime you want. You still pay his salary (and lose the cap space I suppose), but if another team picks him up off waivers, the amount the new team pays him is subtracted from what you owe him.

The Suns are not over the cap (right?) so this CBA rule would not apply to them. It could be used to drop a guy like Penny from the Knicks so they don't have to pay the 100% luxury tax on him in addition to his salary.

 

[scotsman13]

i would think that eisley but he will be gone after this year (on the cap) and we are still under the cap, so it really doesnt matter. if what is being projected to be the cap for next year.

 

[playstation]

lets waive marion! j/k

 

[JCSunsfan]

The Suns are not over the salary cap, let alone the lux tax threshold. It does not apply to them.

It could have trade implications though. And it could make some decent, but over paid players available to pick up with one of our exceptions.

 

[SweetD]

It would have been nice to get Howard off the books last year and still have more cash for another player.

 

[jbeecham]

It would have been nice to get Howard off the books last year and still have more cash for another player.

Yes it would have, but this one time waiver rule doesn't eliminate a player's contract, it just eliminates any luxury tax the team might have to pay by having that players salary affect their cap total (if their total salaries are above the luxury tax limit). The player still gets paid his full contract just like when a player is waived in any past year.

 

[HooverDam]

From my understanding, everyone is right, it only applies to teams over the cap.

I agree the Suns need to get rid of Voskhul, he doesnt fit the system and he is getting expensive. Maybe we could trade him for future 2nd round picks or a 2nd round pick this year. Or picks and cash. I dont think we can really get a lot for Jake, I dont think he is very good.

The biggest way this new rule could help Phoenix would be by picking up a player who was waived. From my understanding, if a team waives a player, he is off the team, but is still paid by them.Thus the Suns could potentially pick up a formerly over paid player for more or less nothing. That almost seems too good to be true- can anyone confirm this is how it works?

 

[SweetD]

Yes it would have, but this one time waiver rule doesn't eliminate a player's contract, it just eliminates any luxury tax the team might have to pay by having that players salary affect their cap total (if their total salaries are above the luxury tax limit). The player still gets paid his full contract just like when a player is waived in any past year.

True but his cap would only go against the team for one year. Meaning Howards numbers wouldn't be against the cap and we would have more cap to spend.

 

[SweetD]

From my understanding, everyone is right, it only applies to teams over the cap.

I agree the Suns need to get rid of Voskhul, he doesnt fit the system and he is getting expensive. Maybe we could trade him for future 2nd round picks or a 2nd round pick this year. Or picks and cash. I dont think we can really get a lot for Jake, I dont think he is very good.

The biggest way this new rule could help Phoenix would be by picking up a player who was waived. From my understanding, if a team waives a player, he is off the team, but is still paid by them.Thus the Suns could potentially pick up a formerly over paid player for more or less nothing. That almost seems too good to be true- can anyone confirm this is how it works?

This is correct the only thing would be how much the play got from the buy out. Houstan may get a buy out and would be a nice piece off the bench, but I could also see him getting offers from Denver and others.

 

[George O'Brien]

Except for a few over paid guys hitting the free agency market, I can't see how it effects the Suns.

BTW, I think that Jake is much more likely to get traded close to the trading deadline in February. At that point most of his salary would already have been paid, his contract would end at the end of the season, and for a team whose centers have been injured Jake might be better than nothing. Not much better, but a little. It was just a few years ago that he started for a playoff team.