Whis Handing Off Play Calling to Mike Miller

[desertdawg]

And why can't I get a straight answer out of you Whiz pablum eaters? Why do you give Whiz all the credit in the world when we were winning yet are giving him a total pass for this season?

I don't see any body giving Whiz a pass on this season, he mucked it up pretty badly, and losing Warner really helped sink his battleship. Especially with who he brought in to replace our QB.

I haven't forgotten the good, and I also know it wasn't only Whiz that brought us the good. Whiz is still here, and has been there before. Give the man a chance, not a pass, to get things right next season. He has most definitely earned it. And Skelton might pan out too, he is a Whiz guy.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Uh huh. Leinart went down in week 5. Week 6(10 points), week 7(19 points), and week 9(10 points) were all after Leinart went down then magically, starting in week 10, we started scoring a lot of points(30 point average). Deal with those facts.

And why can't I get a straight answer out of you Whiz pablum eaters? Why do you give Whiz all the credit in the world when we were winning yet are giving him a total pass for this season?

Why do you Whiz haters not give Whiz any credit when they were winning and all the blame when they are losing? Nobody is giving him a total pass this year. Do you think every coach should be fired after their 1st losing year in 4 years? Alot of people wanted Lovie Smith run out of Chicago last year.How's that working out? Is he all of a sudden alot smarter coach this year?

 

[Cardiac]

2 points from my perspective:
Whiz will be here because he deserves to be.
I think money is more important to ownership than winning.

Fully agree with 1st part.

As for the 2nd part, I believe Michael understands to make real money the team also needs to win. So while he won't go all Dan Snyder or Jerry Jones (doesn't have the resources or authority anyway) he will try to get Sr. to spend enough to get us back on track.

How many here would want John Fox as the DC? How about HC?

How many would still want this if they were a Panthers fan?

Just sayin.

 

[kerouac9]

Why do you Whiz haters not give Whiz any credit when they were winning and all the blame when they are losing? Nobody is giving him a total pass this year. Do you think every coach should be fired after their 1st losing year in 4 years? Alot of people wanted Lovie Smith run out of Chicago last year.How's that working out? Is he all of a sudden alot smarter coach this year?

What are you talking about? Whis got tons of credit when we were winning. Levi Brown sucks? Well, we're winning. Rashad Johnson couldn't even play special teams as a rookie? Well, we're winning. No contribution from Alan Branch for his first two years? Well, we're winning. Cutting Buster Davis and Brown before they play a regular season down? Well, we're winning.

But you apologists don't seem to acknowledge that those chickens are coming home to roost. We're less talented now and less deep because Whis has made disasterous personnel decisions, and players haven't developed because he's hired poor replacements on his coaching staff or has failed to hold his staff accountable for terrible performance.

Whis has squandered the benefit of the doubt this season. Sorry; he has to earn it back from this fan. You're calling for Bill Davis to be fired, but you insist that we give Miller a chance because our passing game has been so well-designed and -executed this year?

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

What are you talking about? Whis got tons of credit when we were winning. Levi Brown sucks? Well, we're winning. Rashad Johnson couldn't even play special teams as a rookie? Well, we're winning. No contribution from Alan Branch for his first two years? Well, we're winning. Cutting Buster Davis and Brown before they play a regular season down? Well, we're winning.

But you apologists don't seem to acknowledge that those chickens are coming home to roost. We're less talented now and less deep because Whis has made disasterous personnel decisions, and players haven't developed because he's hired poor replacements on his coaching staff or has failed to hold his staff accountable for terrible performance.

Whis has squandered the benefit of the doubt this season. Sorry; he has to earn it back from this fan. You're calling for Bill Davis to be fired, but you insist that we give Miller a chance because our passing game has been so well-designed and -executed this year?

First off, I'm talking about the people that only want to blame Whiz and give him zero credit. You can't have it both ways. I've questioned some of Whiz's decision making this year. How could you not? But alot of people are just judging by this year alone which is totally unreasonable.
Comparing Davis to Miller is apples and oranges. Davis has had 2 years IN CHARGE of the defense and it's gone consitently downhill. Miller has had one aspect of the offense,and hasn't had a chance to put his type of gameplan in place to see what he does. His part of the offense right now is greatly affected by the QB. We've seen numerous occasions of WR's being open and the ball nowhere catchable. How is that on Miller? You're trying to project,and already dismiss him, because you don't like his resume even though it is very similar to Haley's. In fact, I think it's better than Haley's because he has gotten to the level Haley was,prior to being named OC, in less time. Miller may turn out to be horrible but I'm willing to give him a chance. He also may turn out to be great. I know working with a QB like Warner, instead of Anderson, makes any OC's job alot easier. A good comaprison is former Atlanta Braves pitching coach Leo Mazzone. When he had Glavine, Smoltz, Maddux, and Avery he was considered the best pitching coach in baseball. He left and went to Baltimore and got fired with 1 year left on his contract. Did he all of a sudden become a bad coach, or did going from Smoltz to Daniel Cabrera have a bit of effect on the product on the field.

 

[Krangodnzr]

That's the whole problem that the Whis apologist camp refuses to acknowledge. If you don't have any good QBs, don't run an offense that requires one. Lots of teams do it and end up a lot better than 4-12 when all is said and done.

And lean on the running game? What offense pray tell should we run?

I don't think any of you Whis-hating delusionalists understand that this team, the way it has been built even before Whis got here, is f*$%ed without good QB play. We just haven't had the draft picks to fix the offensive line, the linebacker corp, the secondary, adding WR depth, defensive line depth all at the same time.

Our offensive line IMO is the worst in the NFL and has been since before Whis took over. Whis/Haley did a fantastic job scheming around it the past few years, but that was helped by having a tough QB with a quick release. Now that we don't have that, our offensive line has been completely exposed.

That's why, as much as I'd like to add a top pass rusher high this offseason we can't ignore left tackle if a good one is available.

 

[kerouac9]

And lean on the running game? What offense pray tell should we run?

I don't think any of you Whis-hating delusionalists understand that this team, the way it has been built even before Whis got here, is f*$%ed without good QB play. We just haven't had the draft picks to fix the offensive line, the linebacker corp, the secondary, adding WR depth, defensive line depth all at the same time.

Our offensive line IMO is the worst in the NFL and has been since before Whis took over. Whis/Haley did a fantastic job scheming around it the past few years, but that was helped by having a tough QB with a quick release. Now that we don't have that, our offensive line has been completely exposed.

That's why, as much as I'd like to add a top pass rusher high this offseason we can't ignore left tackle if a good one is available.

Maybe if Whis hadn't blown picks in the pass rush, linebacking corps, offensive line, and secondary, it wouldn't be such a problem. But other than having a very deep defensive line (desipte blowing a pick on Alan Branch and failing to develop Gabe Watson), the depth issues of this team wouldn't be what they are.

I'm sorry; whose fault is it that the offensive line is terrible?

There are teams all around the NFL who scheme around weak quarterback play and end up successful. When the Cards are successful passing the ball this year, it isn't mostly in fast-break, 4WR sets. It's when they run max protect and play action.

I explained what I would do with this offense in the middle of the preseason. But Whis figured that he'd run Warner's offense with Derek Anderson. Did ANYONE think that would be a good idea? No one outside of Hardy Drive did. It's not like people weren't saying this when we were 3-2.

Look at what Chan Gailey is doing in Buffalo. Look at how Scott Linehan has schemed in Detroit. Look at what Richard Curl and Pat Shurmur have done in St. Louis. Do these teams have massively more talented offensive lines than we do? I don't think so. But they have offenses that can create points while having average or below-average talent at the quarterback position.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

And lean on the running game? What offense pray tell should we run?

I don't think any of you Whis-hating delusionalists understand that this team, the way it has been built even before Whis got here, is f*$%ed without good QB play. We just haven't had the draft picks to fix the offensive line, the linebacker corp, the secondary, adding WR depth, defensive line depth all at the same time.

Our offensive line IMO is the worst in the NFL and has been since before Whis took over. Whis/Haley did a fantastic job scheming around it the past few years, but that was helped by having a tough QB with a quick release. Now that we don't have that, our offensive line has been completely exposed.

That's why, as much as I'd like to add a top pass rusher high this offseason we can't ignore left tackle if a good one is available.

It's a bad year for quality OT's in the draft. Sherrod from Miss St. is probably the highest rated and he would be an extreme, pass on AP for Levi Brown, type of reach. In fact, in this year's draft , I wouldn't take an OL until the later rounds. There's just not that much separation, talent-wise, this year. John Moffett, from Wisky, and Justin Boren, from OSU, are two good late round guard prospects that can help as much as a Gabe Carimi might.

 

[NJCardFan]

I don't think any of you Whis-hating delusionalists understand that this team, the way it has been built even before Whis got here, is f*$%ed without good QB play.

Fair enough, however, explain to me why this team has fallen so far since Whiz purged this team of nearly all players who were here before he got here. Now, I'm not blaming him for retirees. And I'm not saying Leinart would have fared any differently this season, but when he was starting under Green, he showed flashes, as long as the offense was geared toward him and not the other way around. Leinart was brought up in the West Coast offense. Quick slants, quick outs, bubble screens, ect. He was successful that way but Whiz's offense is plain, drop back passing. Something Leinart isn't. In other words, Whiz wanted Leinart to gear his game around him and not the other way around. Not a good way to coach.

We just haven't had the draft picks to fix the offensive line, the linebacker corp, the secondary, adding WR depth, defensive line depth all at the same time.

2010 draft-2 defensive linemen/1 LB/1 WR/1DB/0 offensive linemen
2009-1 defensive lineman/1 LB/2 DB/0 WR/2 OL(both gone)
2008-3 defensive linemen/0 LB/1 DB/1 WR/1 OL
2007-1 DL/1 LB(gone)/0 DB/1 WR/1 OL

That's 4 drafts and addressing your concerns:

OL-4(2 are gone)
DB-4
WR-3
DL-7
LB-3

7 Defensive linemen and still no depth? Now, who's fault is that?

Our offensive line IMO is the worst in the NFL and has been since before Whis took over.

Uh huh. And he drafted zero offensive linemen this past draft. Zero. And 2 in 2009 and both are gone. 4 all together. I guess this is the FO fault too, huh?

our offensive line has been completely exposed.

And this O-Line is completely hand picked by Whiz save for Lutui. And we're delusional.

 

[conraddobler]

I don't know if the guy is any good or not but it's a start in the right direction.

A better idea would be to go out in the offseason and get someone very good but developing the right person is better than leaving Whiz doing it just in terms of freeing Whiz up for being a true manager.

The number one reason HC's fail in the NFL I think is simply due to being inexperienced as true managers.

The HC sets the agenda but you need a management team and coaching team to implement it, there's too much to do for the coach to take on all these things, you can't think when you're neck deep in next weeks offensive gameplan.

If you can take a step or two back you'll be more likely to start thinking strategically rather than reactively.

Our team has to be the most reactive team in history, that has to change if we ever want to be good long term.

 

[MadCardDisease]

Did you know that Todd Haley sued McDonalds or $1.7 million because his wife found a dead rat in her salad?

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2006-11-23/news/i-smell-a-mcrat/

 

[TJ]

There are teams all around the NFL who scheme around weak quarterback play and end up successful. .

Not as weak as we've had it all season. You need at least average production from the QB position and a decent o-line to at least have the opportunity to do what you're inferring. We've had zero production at QB and our offensive line has been exposed for what it is worth; very little.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Maybe if Whis hadn't blown picks in the pass rush, linebacking corps, offensive line, and secondary, it wouldn't be such a problem. But other than having a very deep defensive line (desipte blowing a pick on Alan Branch and failing to develop Gabe Watson), the depth issues of this team wouldn't be what they are.

I'm sorry; whose fault is it that the offensive line is terrible?

Please provide proof that Whis is in charge of the draft. Your camp claims this all the time, yet the picks are comparable with all of the non-Denny Green era Cardinals draft choices.

Maybe it's Steve Keim's fault? Maybe the wunderkind isn't as good as we've been told for years.

There are teams all around the NFL who scheme around weak quarterback play and end up successful. When the Cards are successful passing the ball this year, it isn't mostly in fast-break, 4WR sets. It's when they run max protect and play action.

I explained what I would do with this offense in the middle of the preseason. But Whis figured that he'd run Warner's offense with Derek Anderson. Did ANYONE think that would be a good idea? No one outside of Hardy Drive did. It's not like people weren't saying this when we were 3-2.

Look at what Chan Gailey is doing in Buffalo. Look at how Scott Linehan has schemed in Detroit. Look at what Richard Curl and Pat Shurmur have done in St. Louis. Do these teams have massively more talented offensive lines than we do? I don't think so. But they have offenses that can create points while having average or below-average talent at the quarterback position.

Yes and those teams don't have DERRICK FREAKING ANDERSON as their QB! These also have better (may marginally, but still better) offensive lines. This team was screwed the moment Warner retired. Matt Leinart may have been an improvement, but he wasn't going to come close to matching Warner's ability.

And play action only works as long as you a team can consistently gash a defense with the running game. We've seen where it has been effective in spurts when the running game started working, but it remains to be seen whether you could base an offense on it.

 

[Krangodnzr]

Fair enough, however, explain to me why this team has fallen so far since Whiz purged this team of nearly all players who were here before he got here. Now, I'm not blaming him for retirees. And I'm not saying Leinart would have fared any differently this season, but when he was starting under Green, he showed flashes, as long as the offense was geared toward him and not the other way around. Leinart was brought up in the West Coast offense. Quick slants, quick outs, bubble screens, ect. He was successful that way but Whiz's offense is plain, drop back passing. Something Leinart isn't. In other words, Whiz wanted Leinart to gear his game around him and not the other way around. Not a good way to coach.


2010 draft-2 defensive linemen/1 LB/1 WR/1DB/0 offensive linemen
2009-1 defensive lineman/1 LB/2 DB/0 WR/2 OL(both gone)
2008-3 defensive linemen/0 LB/1 DB/1 WR/1 OL
2007-1 DL/1 LB(gone)/0 DB/1 WR/1 OL

That's 4 drafts and addressing your concerns:

OL-4(2 are gone)
DB-4
WR-3
DL-7
LB-3

7 Defensive linemen and still no depth? Now, who's fault is that?



Uh huh. And he drafted zero offensive linemen this past draft. Zero. And 2 in 2009 and both are gone. 4 all together. I guess this is the FO fault too, huh?

And this O-Line is completely hand picked by Whiz save for Lutui. And we're delusional.

LOL we have plenty of defensive line depth. The problem I'm talking about is that we have/had a lot of holes every year and are still looking to address starting positions through the draft. That's a recipe for disaster, good teams are rarely looking for multiple starters through the draft.

Again, as I said to Kerouac, please provide one shred of evidence that Whisenhunt is in charge of the draft/free agency and not Rod Graves, Steve Keim and the rest of the team (scouting staff) that's devoted to that part of the game. If not, lay this baseless claim to rest.

 

[D-Dogg]

Did you know that Todd Haley sued McDonalds or $1.7 million because his wife found a dead rat in her salad?

http://www.dallasobserver.com/2006-11-23/news/i-smell-a-mcrat/

That was an awesome read. They settled out of court, too.

 

[Bobcat]

It is about blanking time someone takes over...!!!

 

[kerouac9]

Krang, I honestly don't know what to tell you. Of you need documented proof that the head coach doesn't have real authority over who the team picks in the draft and free agency... Are you for real?

Jurecki has reported that Whis has personnel authority built into his extension. Maybe you can start the clock on his success starting with this year's 53 man roster. But you can't give Whis credit for when FAs like Gandy work out and then blame Graves When Levi Brown is Levi Brown.

The thing I was thinking about with Miller today is this: the big difference between Miller and Haley is the amount of exposure Haley had to outside voices. Haley worked with Parcells and Weis AND Whis. Miller's worked with... Whis. This staff already suffers from groupthink and everyone coming from the same place. I'm not opposed to bringing in a fresh face, but I think the offense needs a fresh perspective.

 

[Shane]

Haley worked with Parcells and Weis AND Whis. Miller's worked with... Whis. This staff already suffers from groupthink and everyone coming from the same place. I'm not opposed to bringing in a fresh face, but I think the offense needs a fresh perspective.

Umm Miller has worked closely with Bill Cowher and Mike Mularkey as well. Just an FYI!

 

[D-Dogg]

This got out of hand in a hurry. Wow.

Sure, I'd love to see a big name OC come in next year...barring that, this move makes me happy. One of my primary issues with Whis and it has been since the start, is that I think he can be either a very good OC or a very good HC, but splitting the duties means he can't excel at either. I truly believe that by handing over the duties (completely) to an OC we will see a much more well-managed and strategic team overall.

It's less about who is the OC for me and rather who is NOT. This is the first step of my "not" guy releasing the role and should lead to all kinds of improvements.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

This got out of hand in a hurry. Wow.

Sure, I'd love to see a big name OC come in next year...barring that, this move makes me happy. One of my primary issues with Whis and it has been since the start, is that I think he can be either a very good OC or a very good HC, but splitting the duties means he can't excel at either. I truly believe that by handing over the duties (completely) to an OC we will see a much more well-managed and strategic team overall.

It's less about who is the OC for me and rather who is NOT. This is the first step of my "not" guy releasing the role and should lead to all kinds of improvements.

This right here is the main point. We'll see if Miller works out , or not. But this is a good move and a step in the righ direction.
I posted in a thread awhile back about bringing a guy like Kubiak is pretty un-realistic because a coach is going to want to run his sysytem and Whiz is going to want an OC that is familiar with current system and take it over.

The system works .

 

[Krangodnzr]

Krang, I honestly don't know what to tell you. Of you need documented proof that the head coach doesn't have real authority over who the team picks in the draft and free agency... Are you for real?

Jurecki has reported that Whis has personnel authority built into his extension. Maybe you can start the clock on his success starting with this year's 53 man roster. But you can't give Whis credit for when FAs like Gandy work out and then blame Graves When Levi Brown is Levi Brown.

The thing I was thinking about with Miller today is this: the big difference between Miller and Haley is the amount of exposure Haley had to outside voices. Haley worked with Parcells and Weis AND Whis. Miller's worked with... Whis. This staff already suffers from groupthink and everyone coming from the same place. I'm not opposed to bringing in a fresh face, but I think the offense needs a fresh perspective.

Like I said, all conjecture. No proof that Whis has been behind the personnel moves. In fact this season, while it may only be rumor, there were the reports that Whisenhunt desperately wanted Marc Bulger which is at least some evidence that Whis DOESN'T have full control.

I'm not quick to blame ANYONE, nor do I give Whisenhunt credit for personnel successes. All I know is the personnel department has been a failure for over a generation, predating Whisenhunt and if things don't change, will continue to fail after Whisenhunt leaves.

As far as Miller goes, I'll take a wait and see approach. Whisenhunt has proven himself capable of handling coordinator duties at a high level and a fresh set of eyes should be beneficial.

 

[cardpa]

Fair enough, however, explain to me why this team has fallen so far since Whiz purged this team of nearly all players who were here before he got here. Now, I'm not blaming him for retirees. And I'm not saying Leinart would have fared any differently this season, but when he was starting under Green, he showed flashes, as long as the offense was geared toward him and not the other way around. Leinart was brought up in the West Coast offense. Quick slants, quick outs, bubble screens, ect. He was successful that way but Whiz's offense is plain, drop back passing. Something Leinart isn't. In other words, Whiz wanted Leinart to gear his game around him and not the other way around. Not a good way to coach.


2010 draft-2 defensive linemen/1 LB/1 WR/1DB/0 offensive linemen
2009-1 defensive lineman/1 LB/2 DB/0 WR/2 OL(both gone)
2008-3 defensive linemen/0 LB/1 DB/1 WR/1 OL
2007-1 DL/1 LB(gone)/0 DB/1 WR/1 OL

That's 4 drafts and addressing your concerns:

OL-4(2 are gone)
DB-4
WR-3
DL-7
LB-3

7 Defensive linemen and still no depth? Now, who's fault is that?



Uh huh. And he drafted zero offensive linemen this past draft. Zero. And 2 in 2009 and both are gone. 4 all together. I guess this is the FO fault too, huh?

And this O-Line is completely hand picked by Whiz save for Lutui. And we're delusional.

Totally agree with this.

My biggest fear is every time Whiz selects a new coach or promotes one when one leaves its someone who generally has been a Whiz disciple.

So far not many of them have worked out. The question that needs to be asked is Whiz hand picking these guys knowing they will not buck the Whiz system at all even when it needs to be done?

To say there hasn't been time to draft OL men is ludicrous. The selection so far during the Whiz regime have been mediocre at best.

I don't think Whiz wants anyone from the outside that will challenge him. I would bet in fact that he was glad to see Haley go.

 

[SuperSpck]

This got out of hand in a hurry. Wow.

Right? Just read all the pages in a blitz and the anger quotient is through the roof. At least it comes from a place of passion, I guess.

I agree with k9: there's a seeming lack of awareness when it comes to offensive philosophy I find maddening. Considering I was praising Whis in his first few years for his adaptability, the rigidity of this season's plan when contrasted to it's effectiveness is a bummer.

(Even when the Cardinals had Warner I felt the team relied too heavily on the shotgun. Now I'd contend that there's no reason to even field the formation.)

They keep saying "the system works", but it doesn't and never has. Identity does. Drive and focus do.
Systems always fail.
They even have a word for the phenomenon: Entropy.
So fix that and fast.

Like Shane and Cbus, I think that Whis gets some more rope. Name another coach who's been at the helm when the Cards went to a Super Bowl. That earns one year of garbage that I will be pissed about, but will allow as long as there is a return on investment (both monetarily and emotionally). I will happily say "In Whis I trust" because it's about building a dynasty and that will be judged in the tenure not in a season.

Miller deserves the chance to sink or swim, but he needs to be able to focus on one aspect of coaching, coordination or position. Doing both meaning neither gets done completely. Same situation for HC/OC, but I think I've beaten that horse dead.

Yeah Haley has Parcels ties, but you know who else does?
... no you don't because even the most die-hard NFL fan has never heard him. He washed out of the league because he wasn't an NFL quality coach. "Family" ties mean squat. Get over it.

I love JohnH's idea of innovation and fresh ideas, but remain skeptical about any gimmick at the NFL level. Wildcat's mostly dead, what'll be the next thing to phase in and out? On the other hand the forward pass was considered a cute distraction too...

I agree with Krang, there's probably been a lot of failure and it doesn't just fall at the feet of one person. An NFL team is too big to be screwed up by just one guy (although I swear to god Bill's such an easy target).

The players, the coaches, and the front office have all botched things enough to create a miserable season. Making next season better happens this season.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

Right? Just read all the pages in a blitz and the anger quotient is through the roof. At least it comes from a place of passion, I guess.

I agree with k9: there's a seeming lack of awareness when it comes to offensive philosophy I find maddening. Considering I was praising Whis in his first few years for his adaptability, the rigidity of this season's plan when contrasted to it's effectiveness is a bummer.

(Even when the Cardinals had Warner I felt the team relied too heavily on the shotgun. Now I'd contend that there's no reason to even field the formation.)

They keep saying "the system works", but it doesn't and never has. Identity does. Drive and focus do.
Systems always fail.
They even have a word for the phenomenon: Entropy.
So fix that and fast.

Like Shane and Cbus, I think that Whis gets some more rope. Name another coach who's been at the helm when the Cards went to a Super Bowl. That earns one year of garbage that I will be pissed about, but will allow as long as there is a return on investment (both monetarily and emotionally). I will happily say "In Whis I trust" because it's about building a dynasty and that will be judged in the tenure not in a season.

Miller deserves the chance to sink or swim, but he needs to be able to focus on one aspect of coaching, coordination or position. Doing both meaning neither gets done completely. Same situation for HC/OC, but I think I've beaten that horse dead.

Yeah Haley has Parcels ties, but you know who else does?
... no you don't because even the most die-hard NFL fan has never heard him. He washed out of the league because he wasn't an NFL quality coach. "Family" ties mean squat. Get over it.

I love JohnH's idea of innovation and fresh ideas, but remain skeptical about any gimmick at the NFL level. Wildcat's mostly dead, what'll be the next thing to phase in and out? On the other hand the forward pass was considered a cute distraction too...

I agree with Krang, there's probably been a lot of failure and it doesn't just fall at the feet of one person. An NFL team is too big to be screwed up by just one guy (although I swear to god Bill's such an easy target).

The players, the coaches, and the front office have all botched things enough to create a miserable season. Making next season better happens this season.

Don't be coming in here with all the calmness and level-headedness .

 

[cardpa]

Right? Just read all the pages in a blitz and the anger quotient is through the roof. At least it comes from a place of passion, I guess.


They keep saying "the system works", but it doesn't and never has. Identity does. Drive and focus do.
Systems always fail.
They even have a word for the phenomenon: Entropy.
So fix that and fast.

This is exactly what worries me about Whiz, he has a system and he believes in it. The problem with that is the players don't necessarily fit the system.

Whiz doesn't understand why it doesn't work. I believe Warner was able to adapt to the system and make it work. Now he is gone and the players we now have can't make it work because it doesn't fit the players.

Square peg in a round hole syndrome.