Who are some DCs that you would aim for 2020?

[Dr. Jones]

Horton is never coming back.

 

[Chopper0080]

Gray and Zimmer are 4-3 guys -- yes?

Kris Richard is a Pete Carrol protégé, might be available when Garret is canned -- although Jerry might go with HC Lincoln Riley for the offensive staff with the defensive staff retained

Yes, both are 4-3 base guys. I said it in another thread...we shouldn't get hung up on the 4-3 vs 3-4 base scheme at this point. Lots of talent needs to be added regardless.

 

[gamebird98]

Jim Schwartz

 

[KYCardFan]

Brad White DC from Kentucky former LB coach for Colts.

Coached Mathis and Freeney at Indy, Josh Allen at UK, replaced 3 NFL starters this year and had the 15th best defense in country, 4th best pass defense.

This guy knows defense

 

[Jetstream Green]

Great Thread.

Not in any particular order
James Bettcher
Wade Phillips
Rod Marinelli
Ron Rivera
Todd Walsh
Jimmy Lake
Marvin Lewis
Rex Ryan
Raheem Morris

No bueno head coach but I would be totally down with Marvin Lewis as a DC

 

[b8rtm8nn]

whoever we pick, it is important that they can build a defensive staff. I think this is a failing of Vance Joseph, not many high quality coaches, not tons of experience; Kliff did a much better job on the offensive side.

I feel someone like Bettcher needs a good supporting cast around him, and if he doesn't have it, won't succeed.

 

[NYCARDS]

Good chance Bettcher will be available as Schurmur will be fired by Giants.

 

[AZ Native]

Buddy Ryan, whoops, too late.

 

[overseascardfan]

What about the Clemson DC?

Always been a fan of Venables. He has built National Championship defenses at OU and CLEM, I hoped Kingsbury would have made a pitch to make jump to NFL with him but he has it made at CLEM, it would take a miracle to land him.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

NFL or College.


Jimmy Lake from the Washington Huskies would be my favorite. Was a former DB coach who consistently sent DBs to the NFL & has manned the DC spot the past couple of years with great results. He knows how to adapt & is great at stopping the pass.

He's sent us at least 2 of our DB's. He does prepare them well. Does he have NFL experience? That would be a big topic if we were considering him. The HC at Washington just resigned leaving the DC as the interim HC. He would more than likely get the DC position if the interim HC is hired permanently? The DL coach for the 49ers played ball with KK at TT, I would think he would get brought up by KK about our DC job if he gets any input? Oops, upon reading further, I had to add this, I had it wrong. JL was the DC instead of being the DB coach with the Huskies. Well.........if he doesn't retain the HC job there, maybe he would be an option in Arizona?

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Wade Phillips contract is up after this season. Pay him royally and let him ad fixing another defense to his resume.

Obviuously VJ learned nothing from him lol. I may have that wrong but I think VJ is a WP's disciple?

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

I wouldn't mind this. Love his defenses.

Vic Fangio might get the axe after one year in Denver. I'd throw a buttload of money at him.

Fangio will get another yr. Why? Imo, because Drew Lock just got his first start with the Broncos. They will let him have a full season with the possible QBOTF to see how it goes. JMO.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Great Thread.

Not in any particular order
James Bettcher
Wade Phillips
Rod Marinelli
Ron Rivera
Todd Walsh
Jimmy Lake
Marvin Lewis
Rex Ryan
Raheem Morris

No way I want Rex Ryan. He would divide the locker room imo. Pit the defense against the offense. He already runs his mouth about KK & pretty boy football. He didn't call it that but he's made comments of that nature. He only wants to be a HC imo.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Always been a fan of Venables. He has built National Championship defenses at OU and CLEM, I hoped Kingsbury would have made a pitch to make jump to NFL with him but he has it made at CLEM, it would take a miracle to land him.

That would be a good choice imo. They pay him HC type money right now to be the DC at Clemson. It's been said "unless he gets the right HC offer in college, he's staying put"? That may change if he got offered a DC position in the NFL?

 

[HGC]

That would be a good choice imo. They pay him HC type money right now to be the DC at Clemson. It's been said "unless he gets the right HC offer in college, he's staying put"? That may change if he got offered a DC position in the NFL?

Not a chance in hell of that happening.

 

[Cardsfaninlouky]

Not a chance in hell of that happening.

You're probably right. I was just commenting on the person that brought his name up in the discussion.

 

[cardncubfan]

Always been a fan of Venables. He has built National Championship defenses at OU and CLEM, I hoped Kingsbury would have made a pitch to make jump to NFL with him but he has it made at CLEM, it would take a miracle to land him.

What about the VT guy?

 

[blindseyed]

I saw Keim out at the last Buckeye Hawks high school game talking to the DB coach, KEIM TIME

 

[The Kraken]

The intriguing question to me is, are we still tied to being a 3-4 team?

Our transition to a 4-3 base last year was a disaster, we chalked it up to trying to force 3-4 personnel into that scheme...but with a lot of those guys moving on and our dreadful performance on the field, is that still the case?

To be frank, the front 7 as a unit stink in any base configuration, we need a complete overhaul on the entire defense and I wonder if we could enlarge the DC candidate pool by being open to change...

 

[iLLmatiC]

This is, of course, assuming Vance gets fired which is far from certain.

Not really. There has to be a fall guy and fat ass will get away with another year of a bad season.

 

[overseascardfan]

What about the VT guy?

Bud Foster has been at VT for over 30 years, not sure if he is willing to make the jump at this point of his life, he’s 60 years old. VT has produced a lot of defensive talent during Foster’s tenure.

The intriguing question to me is, are we still tied to being a 3-4 team?

Our transition to a 4-3 base last year was a disaster, we chalked it up to trying to force 3-4 personnel into that scheme...but with a lot of those guys moving on and our dreadful performance on the field, is that still the case?

To be frank, the front 7 as a unit stink in any base configuration, we need a complete overhaul on the entire defense and I wonder if we could enlarge the DC candidate pool by being open to change...

The problem with changing the defensive scheme is not the DC but the guy trying to fit square pieces in round holes with his drafting and FA signings. Need to get rid of Keim or this won’t change.

 

[The Kraken]

Bud Foster has been at VT for over 30 years, not sure if he is willing to make the jump at this point of his life, he’s 60 years old. VT has produced a lot of defensive talent during Foster’s tenure.

The problem with changing the defensive scheme is not the DC but the guy trying to fit square pieces in round holes with his drafting and FA signings. Need to get rid of Keim or this won’t change.

Totally agree, but our pieces are getting to be irrelevant, Peters, CJ, and Hicks could play in either scheme and those are the only ones I would be concerned about retaining...

But you are correct, and while I think SK had a good draft this year, the last few have been dreadful and speak volumes to the lack of production on the field and depth on the bench.

In a perfect world, we move on from both SK and VJ... I would love to give one of SK's understudies a shot (not sure if a legit GM would be cool with a coach that wasn't "his guy")...

 

[AZCardsWin]

Belicheck's son or Rex Ryan. Both would be VERY bold moves!

 

[Bkbobo]

If Matt Patricia is let go at the end of the season, is that someone we should consider? His stint of a head coach was terrible, but had good squads in New England.

 

[football karma]

The intriguing question to me is, are we still tied to being a 3-4 team?

Our transition to a 4-3 base last year was a disaster, we chalked it up to trying to force 3-4 personnel into that scheme...but with a lot of those guys moving on and our dreadful performance on the field, is that still the case?

To be frank, the front 7 as a unit stink in any base configuration, we need a complete overhaul on the entire defense and I wonder if we could enlarge the DC candidate pool by being open to change...

a theoretical question:

Chandler Jones is the one impact player on D, and he is most productive as a 3/4 OLB.

Is that enough to stick with the 3/4?