Who do you want to fall through the 1st round (scenarios)

[Pariah]

Yeah but which is the other team that takes a RB? I had NE pegged as that team but they got Dillon K Jones could fall to #33 because NE got Dillon!

Tampa Bay is who I have taking Jackson. Detroit could also take him, and for what it's worth, some people have Chicago taking a RB, too (although I don't see it happening).

As for who'd I'd like to fall into the second, but I think it's a pipe-dream, is Carlos Dansby. because of the lack of LB prospects in this draft behind Vilma, Williams and Dansby, I think any team who might need a LB in the second half of the draft will snatch this guy up. After him there's a big drop-off in talent at the position.

 

[football karma]

the #33 spot is perhaps one of the better spots in the draft (along with the first pick in the 4th) --

my theory is that teams in the bottom third of the draft (the playoff teams) all feel like they have only one or two spots they need to improve in order to go all the way-- I think they tend to get very need oriented, and this allows a player or two projected to go in the high teens or so to slide all the way out of the first round.

At #33, the Cards are in position to take advantage of that.



Of course, the last time they were in that position, they took Leeland McElroy. never mind.

 

[Goldfield]

I have to agree with Shane.

Fitz is a nice pick, but so if Taylor.


D is more of a NEED.


I also think DT is also one of the biggest needs.

 

[WildBB]

the #33 spot is perhaps one of the better spots in the draft (along with the first pick in the 4th) --

my theory is that teams in the bottom third of the draft (the playoff teams) all feel like they have only one or two spots they need to improve in order to go all the way-- I think they tend to get very need oriented, and this allows a player or two projected to go in the high teens or so to slide all the way out of the first round.

At #33, the Cards are in position to take advantage of that.



Of course, the last time they were in that position, they took Leeland McElroy. never mind.

Another one of the Cards' bigger draft busts.

Alot of teams will be after NE's 32 pick right before the Cardinals pick as well.

 

[kerouac9]

All of which is to say that Derrick Strait has made big plays against big-time opponents in big games. He appears to be one of those guys who "plays faster than he times."

Bob Kemp was saying (and I agree with him) that Derrick Strait may fall down to the third round. At #33 overall, we'd be "settling" for Strait. Better prospects at other positions (possibly SLB) may fall.

If Ben Troupe or Kevin Jones fall to #33, you don't even think about it, you send in the draft card.

 

[LVCARDFREAK]

If Ben Troupe or Kevin Jones fall to #33, you don't even think about it, you send in the draft card.

W/O Question! Run , dont walk, to the podium with these two guys.

However, I dont think Strait will fall to the 3rd. Once the run on CB's begins he will be snatched up.

I doubt he falls, if at all, more than a few picks behind #33 if the Cards dont take him.

 

[kerouac9]

I doubt he falls, if at all, more than a few picks behind #33 if the Cards dont take him.

See, I don't predict the run on cornerbacks that others are. If there's a run on corners, it's because teams are overvaluing them. I'm sorry, but Matt Ware just isn't first-round talent. I don't even want him at #33.

Robinson and Hall are the only two cornerbacks that I think are legitmate 1st rounders. Gamble carries a first-round grade for a team like the Pats and Titans, who can afford to invest some time in him. Poole, Carroll, and Colclough carry legitimate mid- to high-second round grades. Strait and Ware are late-second rounders to me.

If there's a run on cornerbacks in the first round, some fine, fine players are going to fall to the Cards at #33 overall, and none of them are going to be cornerbacks.

 

[spanky1]

See, I don't predict the run on cornerbacks that others are. If there's a run on corners, it's because teams are overvaluing them. I'm sorry, but Matt Ware just isn't first-round talent. I don't even want him at #33.

Robinson and Hall are the only two cornerbacks that I think are legitmate 1st rounders. Gamble carries a first-round grade for a team like the Pats and Titans, who can afford to invest some time in him. Poole, Carroll, and Colclough carry legitimate mid- to high-second round grades. Strait and Ware are late-second rounders to me.

If there's a run on cornerbacks in the first round, some fine, fine players are going to fall to the Cards at #33 overall, and none of them are going to be cornerbacks.

I happen to agree with you on this as well.

 

[vikesfan]

Strait.

Interesting observations on either ESPN or NFL Network yesterday about forty-times.

1. Some players run fast in shorts, but slow down when wearing pads. Others don't.

2. Other players run so-so in shorts & track shoes, but faster when on the field with someone chasing them trying to kill them.

3. Some players make quicker decisions in game situations - rendering fast less-decisive players a tad "slower" and slower, very instinctive players a tad "faster."

4. One-tenth of a second is worth roughly a step & a half over forty yards. (I guess that means the difference between a 4.49 to a 4.54 is about a half to three-quarters of a step.

5. What speed can do for a player is to slightly widen his window for error. (i.e. faster players can compensate for some mistakes).

All of which is to say that Derrick Strait has made big plays against big-time opponents in big games. He appears to be one of those guys who "plays faster than he times."

This is true but some players are just too slow no matter what pads no pads etc the NFL game speeds up especially with a CB.