who is your steal of the draft

[JeffGollin]

Don't kid yourself, Blackmon has has off field issues as well (DUI?) so I believe, like any young man, they both come with risks.

As far as Blackmon being part of the elite 6, I guess it depends on your are basing your info off of. Blackmon made his living in college by being able to out physical college CBs, not because he was a tremendous physical speciman. I think he can become a successful pro, but he will have to change his style of play, because he won't be able to man handle professional CBs like he did the college ones and he doesn't have the natural speed to be able to outrun them.

According to Casserly and others, Beware both top 2 wideouts if you're looking for the explosiveness of Green and Jones a year ago. It was also noted that both Blackmon and Floyd were a bit less flexible (i.e. stiffer) in either the upper or lower body than the other two.

Based on what I've seen on tape, I think I know what they mean.

 

[boisesuns]

Kellen Moore. He's going to get picked late, but he's a winner and incredibly football smart.Have a feeling some team already knows they want to draft him, and he will succeed.

 

[JeffGollin]

Kellen Moore. He's going to get picked late, but he's a winner and incredibly football smart.Have a feeling some team already knows they want to draft him, and he will succeed.

My gut (& eyeballs) say the same, but the CW us that he lacks the arm-strength to make all the throws and will be this year's version of Chris Weinke.

But right now, my ideal "sleeper" is Moore's battery-mate, Tyler Shoemaker. He's 6-1+ 216 lbs and has been type-cast as a "possession" receiver.

He then went out on his Pro Day and ran in the mid 4.4's.

Now I understand we should take Pro Days with a grain of salt, but, when you see a guy in games run great routes, make great clutch grabs etc. but he's considered "too slow" - and then he runs in the 4.4's, I think it's OK to upgrade your evaluation to: runs great routes, makes great clutch grabs & is fast enough.

 

[LoyaltyisaCurse]

Whitney Mercilus
Antonio Allen S S.CAR
T.Y. Hilton WR Fla Int

 

[Southpaw]

Coby Fleener. He could slide to the 2nd round. In this era of TE offenses, he will be drafted lower than his value, IMHO.

 

[POISON]

Brandon Weedon of Oklahoma State. He's ready to play in the NFL right now. If he were 25 he'd be a top 3 pick. Kurt Warner was 37 years old when he took the Cards to the SB and 38 when they were even better in 2009 so you'd get a lot more years out of Weeden than people think.

Oh wait. I take that back. He's too old and didn't play against any good defenses. He'd be a wasted pick.

You nailed it with this one. Barring injury he may be the best Qb in the draft.......

 

[Southpaw]

Kellen Moore. He's going to get picked late, but he's a winner and incredibly football smart.Have a feeling some team already knows they want to draft him, and he will succeed.

He is Colt McCoy ( who I don't like, but is a starting QB ) +1.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

I think both the Boise St kids, the LBer and the RB, are going to make the team's who draft them very happy.

 

[SECTION 11]

Reiff. I just don't think he's that good at all.

 

[SECTION 11]

Wait, this is the wrong thread.
Uh, pass. No, punt!
And.... My podium is gone

 

[JeffGollin]

Add OT Brandon Brooks (6-5 345. Miami (O)) to your list - figures to be around when we draft at #80.

 

[Cbus cardsfan]

I'm also going to add Zach Brown, OLB from North Carolina. The guy has top 10 talents but will likely be picked late round 1/early round 2.

 

[WildBB]

Add OT Brandon Brooks (6-5 345. Miami (O)) to your list - figures to be around when we draft at #80.

I saw him in the Shrine game. He looked OK. Prob. 3/4 round pick.

Couldn't tell enough, pretty vanilla packages.

 

[JeffGollin]

I saw him in the Shrine game. He looked OK. Prob. 3/4 round pick...

Thing of it is - unless we get scary-lucky and grab Kalil or Reiff at #13 or trade down for an extra pick, we'll have to hope and pray that a "diamond in the rough" sleeper guy who projects to a pro LT will be available when we pick #80 in the 3rd round, (because the pickings are slim for LT's between #10 and the 3rd round).

Brooks may be one of those guys. (I'm guessing that Massey, Mosely and Sanders may very well be off the board by then).

 

[POISON]

Don't kid yourself, Blackmon has has off field issues as well (DUI?) so I believe, like any young man, they both come with risks.

Blackmon was a passenger I believe, it didn't amount to nothing more than a small fine. The guy is a good kid raised by a Marine sargent......

 

[WildBB]

Thing of it is - unless we get scary-lucky and grab Kalil or Reiff at #13 or trade down for an extra pick, we'll have to hope and pray that a "diamond in the rough" sleeper guy who projects to a pro LT will be available when we pick #80 in the 3rd round, (because the pickings are slim for LT's between #10 and the 3rd round).

Brooks may be one of those guys. (I'm guessing that Massey, Mosely and Sanders may very well be off the board by then).

Very likely that they will be off the board.

That's why a trade down makes a lot of sense in every aspect this yr. I hope they can make it work.

But if not they can reach for Glenn if they're really desperate. He'll be decent. He'll struggle against the rush a lot though, early on.

I'd hope Snyder and King could cover for him some.

 

[AzStevenCal]

Whitney Mercilus. He'll probably go late in the first round or early second but he belongs in the top 10. The "one year wonder" label along with the belief that he's a 4-3 player only are going to hurt him but a lot of true juniors look like 1 year wonders. And, I'm not convinced he can't play in the 3-4. I'd like to see us trade our pick for Houston's 26th, 58th and 195th picks. They can grab the receiver or nose tackle they need and we can (hopefully) draft Mercilus and spend the extra 5th round pick on a much needed punter.

Steve

 

[MadCardDisease]

David Wilson RB Round 2
Shaun Prater CB Round 3-4
Joe Adams WR Round 4

 

[Vermont Maverick]

Whitney Mercilus. He'll probably go late in the first round or early second but he belongs in the top 10. The "one year wonder" label along with the belief that he's a 4-3 player only are going to hurt him but a lot of true juniors look like 1 year wonders. And, I'm not convinced he can't play in the 3-4. I'd like to see us trade our pick for Houston's 26th, 58th and 195th picks. They can grab the receiver or nose tackle they need and we can (hopefully) draft Mercilus and spend the extra 5th round pick on a much needed punter.

Steve

I agree with Marcelis. I would even consider him at 13 if Ingram, Reiff, Floyd and Decastro are gone (and none of the other top 6 drops). I don't think we will be trading down because there is nobody to trade up for, unless we are willing to take 50 cents on the dollar.

Who is Houston trading up for, and willing to give up a 1, 2, and 5? Did Blackmon drop to us?

 

[AzStevenCal]

I agree with Marcelis. I would even consider him at 13 if Ingram, Reiff, Floyd and Decastro are gone (and none of the other top 6 drops). I don't think we will be trading down because there is nobody to trade up for, unless we are willing to take 50 cents on the dollar.

Who is Houston trading up for, and willing to give up a 1, 2, and 5? Did Blackmon drop to us?

I was thinking Floyd, Blackmon or possibly Poe (they need a NT too). I know the trade chart is probably a bit outdated now but this trade would be pretty close to value. It probably only works if two of Houston's top 3 picks are already gone but that's a likelihood IMO. I'd even take Whitney with our own pick but I'd prefer a nice little dream scenario. Especially if it nets us a 2nd round pick. If we could also add a 5th or even a 6th we could go against conventional wisdom and draft one of the three punters worth picking up.

Steve

 

[WildBB]

David Wilson RB Round 2
Shaun Prater CB Round 3-4
Joe Adams WR Round 4

I like all these guys. Prater will go by the 3rd and Adams too.

 

[WildBB]

Whitney Mercilus. He'll probably go late in the first round or early second but he belongs in the top 10. The "one year wonder" label along with the belief that he's a 4-3 player only are going to hurt him but a lot of true juniors look like 1 year wonders. And, I'm not convinced he can't play in the 3-4. I'd like to see us trade our pick for Houston's 26th, 58th and 195th picks. They can grab the receiver or nose tackle they need and we can (hopefully) draft Mercilus and spend the extra 5th round pick on a much needed punter.

Steve

Good call.

 

[SissyBoyFloyd]

Burfict, for sure. Whoever sign this kids, like in the 7th round, may just get lucky. Something could possibly click in this kids head, when treated as a pro. Maybe that strength and talent will come together with the correct help and practice. If it should, some team could have a monster on their D.

 

[slanidrac16]

I'll go with Chandler Jones. Greta motor, self starter and is compared to Calais Campbell only a bit more versitile.

Perfect fit for the Cards....then we can let Campbell walk.

 

[arizona_cards_11]

Without a doubt in my mind.

1) Mohammed Sanu
2) Bruce Irvin

Cardinals should draft both....let Sanu take over #2 or slot duties his rookie year and Bruce Irvin transitioning to an OLB, beginning as a situational pass rusher. Schofield and Irvin off the corner would be unstoppable.


Trade down far enough in the first to get a second round pick, maybe 2 seconds. Sanu in the 2nd, Irvin in the 2nd-3rd.