Who s Your Surprise 1st Round Pick?

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Christian Hackenberg, QB, Penn State.

Yeah, Jon Gruden has been pimping him, big-time, citiing the one year he played in a pro-style offense (his freshman year under Bill O'Brien) and passed for over 3,000 yards. Gruden could have a point.
 

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Yeah, Jon Gruden has been pimping him, big-time, citiing the one year he played in a pro-style offense (his freshman year under Bill O'Brien) and passed for over 3,000 yards. Gruden could have a point.

Yeah but when's the last time you heard Gruden say an upcoming rook didn't have it on that show? It's pure TV pimping Mitch. Personally, I think you know how I feel about him. :D

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Many say that Whitehair, listed as an OG, can play center. Might be better than Martin. And more versatile.
 

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Yeah, Jon Gruden has been pimping him, big-time, citiing the one year he played in a pro-style offense (his freshman year under Bill O'Brien) and passed for over 3,000 yards. Gruden could have a point.

Cool. Let's draft him and see. In the fifth round, if he's there ;)
 

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Will Fuller, WR from ND.

The Cards are, supposedly, shopping Floyd. Fuller could be his replacement.

My way out there selection is Braxton Miller. I think he's going to turn into an excellent WR and would give Arians a new toy.

Is there any new info on this or is this just carryover from last year's rumors?
 

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Is there any new info on this or is this just carryover from last year's rumors?
I think I saw it in an ESPN article recently, which doesn't necessarily mean it's true, about different players being shopped and he was one of them. I wouldn't be shopping him if I were the Cards.
 

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To the original point...my guess is that the Cardinals are taking Keanu Neal...I would be surprised if they took Robert Nkemdiche...and super shocker would be Kendall Fuller.
 

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I think I saw it in an ESPN article recently, which doesn't necessarily mean it's true, about different players being shopped and he was one of them. I wouldn't be shopping him if I were the Cards.

The Cardinals have put Floyd's name out there for two years now. It's not that they don't like him, it's more about trying to pick up some value for him because they don't envision paying him #1 WR money down the road.

Does anyone here see Floyd as a true #1 WR?

I don't. He reminds me of Rob Moore---a tall WR who makes good plays on intermediate to deep 50/50 balls---but shies away from the middle of the field and is not a consistent RAC guy. A #1 WR, like Fitzgerald (for example) manifests a mastery of the entire route tree, and is not limited in how he can impact the game at his position.

I think that if the Cardinals were offered a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Floyd right now or during the draft, they would make the deal. Again, not because they don't see Floyd's value---they just don't see paying him in excess of $10-12M per year.
 

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Cody Whitehair. He can backup all line positions and has good upside as a center. The Cardinals value versatility and if he doesn't initially beat out Shipley, he at least can be a swing guard-center backup and play in sub packages.

I like this one - the Cards have even came out and said they may draft a non-center to play C.
 

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The Cardinals have put Floyd's name out there for two years now. It's not that they don't like him, it's more about trying to pick up some value for him because they don't envision paying him #1 WR money down the road.

Does anyone here see Floyd as a true #1 WR?

I don't. He reminds me of Rob Moore---a tall WR who makes good plays on intermediate to deep 50/50 balls---but shies away from the middle of the field and is not a consistent RAC guy. A #1 WR, like Fitzgerald (for example) manifests a mastery of the entire route tree, and is not limited in how he can impact the game at his position.

I think that if the Cardinals were offered a 2nd or 3rd round pick for Floyd right now or during the draft, they would make the deal. Again, not because they don't see Floyd's value---they just don't see paying him in excess of $10-12M per year.

Totally agree Walter!!! Teams have to pick & choose whom they pay $10+ mil per year too...and those are received for studs IMO.

What was it I said about him the day we drafted him? :D
 

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Cardale Jones, because I crazy :)[/QUOT


Hmmmm, not so crazy.


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Chargers, Cardinals flying to Ohio to visit with Cardale Jones and his mentor Ted Ginn Sr. in draft's final days.


I don't follow college football near as closely as the NFL...
Can someone give me the cliff note version, on how a QB who couldn't maintain his starting role in college, is projected to go to ANYONE in the first round?

Pissing match with coach?
 

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Xavien Howard. He has great size, good speed and elite ball skills. Two guys that I respect in Greg Cossel and Louis Riddick rank him in their top 3 or 4 CBs in this class. He needs a little work on technique but he's a very physical player with a high ceiling as press corner. If Jackson and Apple are off the board he could very well be next corner on BASKs board.
 

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Xavien Howard. He has great size, good speed and elite ball skills. Two guys that I respect in Greg Cossel and Louis Riddick rank him in their top 3 or 4 CBs in this class. He needs a little work on technique but he's a very physical player with a high ceiling as press corner. If Jackson and Apple are off the board he could very well be next corner on BASKs board.

Yikes.
 
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